Which WR are worth 2 2018 1sts?

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Re: Which WR are worth 2 2018 1sts?

Postby briank » Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:47 am

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Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:36 am
Before I begin, unless that's a 16 team league, you don't have a good enough team for me to rationalize an all in move, but assuming you want to buy and wont be talked out of it. First off...Baldwin is your best realistic option. From the list you gave:

- 2 late firsts (in most cases) wont get you anywhere close to Cooper/Nuk/MT. so lets eliminate them. if you got an owner to do 2 firsts for them, go ahead and offer deals for everyone else on their teams too because they confused
- Hilton+DT aren't guys I think will be reliable enough to sacrifice the future for (since we are focusing on this year)
- Diggs production is when healthy. but who knows when that will be. He is great, but hes just personally not a guy ill pay for because I just don't like how banged up he always is
- The leaves AGJ, Baldwin, Allen. That's not likely to be close to AJ, and you don't have any really desirable pieces to add to get it closer
- Maybe that's enough for Keenan, but I'd prefer Baldwin short term anyways. Start with one first for him, hopefully the guys trying to lose.

I said this is assuming an all-in move because if its not, there is no reason at all to sell picks now, they'll only go up in value
You misinterpreted my direction. It's not just an "all in" move. I'm also looking toward the future, mostly next year. I do think I have an outside chance to win this year especially with a good edition at 4-3, which is somehow the 3rd best record with points as the tie breaker. It's a 12 team league BTW. I'd definitely like younger assets, but I want to explore all options. Thank you for your feedback.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Wilson
RB Mixon/Ja. Williams/Bernard/Davis
WR Thomas/DJ Moore/Robinson/TY/Washington
TE Kelce/Ertz/Cook
Picks 1.03

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Roethlisberger/Fitzpatrick
RB Cook/Zeke/Mixon/Ja. Williams/Hines
WR Evans/Godwin/Golladay/Lockett/Cooks/Fuller/Pittman
TE Kittle/L. Thomas/Tonyan

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Burrow
RB Jacobs/Penny/Dillon/Edwards
WR Adams/Diggs/AJ Brown/Godwin/Woods/Boyd/Ruggs/Davis
TE Kittle/Henry/Njoku/Irv Smith

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 11
QB Jackson/Roethlisberger/Brees
RB Da. Johnson/Gurley
WR Adams/Hopkins/Julio/Thielen/Hilton
TE Kelce/Ertz/Irv

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Goff
RB
WR Jefferson/Juju/Sutton/Juedy/DSamuel
TE Kittle/Fant/Njoku
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Re: Which WR are worth 2 2018 1sts?

Postby Vcize » Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:48 am

briank wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:40 am
Vcize wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:34 am
Just in a vacuum, assuming guys like Hopkins/AB/etc will be auto-rejects, here are some guys I would think about targeting that would be good for you and also might have a chance of being accepted.

Cooks
Hilton
Allen
Baldwin
Landry
Dez
Hill

I think Cooks and Hill would be my first offers (though Cooks is a long shot). Hill is a guy that can help you win it this year and is also still young. For many who are slow to adjust in-season he might still be attainable for two 1sts. I also think Landry is pretty underrated, especially now that the domestic violence issues have been cleared.
I like Landry, but I'm not sure he's worth 2 1sts and I'm worried about what might happen in free agency.
I think his ability is underrated. He was still a strong fantasy player even with Cutler in there who does not play to his strengths at all, so he should be good with most QBs.

And hey, maybe he lands in New England....
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Re: Which WR are worth 2 2018 1sts?

Postby briank » Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:50 am

Vcize wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:48 am
briank wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:40 am
Vcize wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:34 am
Just in a vacuum, assuming guys like Hopkins/AB/etc will be auto-rejects, here are some guys I would think about targeting that would be good for you and also might have a chance of being accepted.

Cooks
Hilton
Allen
Baldwin
Landry
Dez
Hill

I think Cooks and Hill would be my first offers (though Cooks is a long shot). Hill is a guy that can help you win it this year and is also still young. For many who are slow to adjust in-season he might still be attainable for two 1sts. I also think Landry is pretty underrated, especially now that the domestic violence issues have been cleared.
I like Landry, but I'm not sure he's worth 2 1sts and I'm worried about what might happen in free agency.
I think his ability is underrated. He was still a strong fantasy player even with Cutler in there who does not play to his strengths at all, so he should be good with most QBs.

And hey, maybe he lands in New England....
I just don't like giving up that kind of capital with that much uncertainty. Maybe he ends up in Cleveland.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Wilson
RB Mixon/Ja. Williams/Bernard/Davis
WR Thomas/DJ Moore/Robinson/TY/Washington
TE Kelce/Ertz/Cook
Picks 1.03

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Roethlisberger/Fitzpatrick
RB Cook/Zeke/Mixon/Ja. Williams/Hines
WR Evans/Godwin/Golladay/Lockett/Cooks/Fuller/Pittman
TE Kittle/L. Thomas/Tonyan

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Burrow
RB Jacobs/Penny/Dillon/Edwards
WR Adams/Diggs/AJ Brown/Godwin/Woods/Boyd/Ruggs/Davis
TE Kittle/Henry/Njoku/Irv Smith

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 11
QB Jackson/Roethlisberger/Brees
RB Da. Johnson/Gurley
WR Adams/Hopkins/Julio/Thielen/Hilton
TE Kelce/Ertz/Irv

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Goff
RB
WR Jefferson/Juju/Sutton/Juedy/DSamuel
TE Kittle/Fant/Njoku
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Re: Which WR are worth 2 2018 1sts?

Postby vbbish » Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:54 am

K. Allen, Landry, Dez, Baldwin, Hilton.... All guys I would give up a first + for, but wouldnt pay two firsts.
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RB: Gurley, M. Gordon, R. Penny, M. Ingram, T. Cohen, D. Montgomery, JT, Dillon
WR: Hopkins, Godwin, AJG, Boyd, Diggs, J. Brown
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Re: Which WR are worth 2 2018 1sts?

Postby QuintorrisLopezJones » Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:55 am

briank wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:47 am
QuintorrisLopezJones wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:36 am
Before I begin, unless that's a 16 team league, you don't have a good enough team for me to rationalize an all in move, but assuming you want to buy and wont be talked out of it. First off...Baldwin is your best realistic option. From the list you gave:

- 2 late firsts (in most cases) wont get you anywhere close to Cooper/Nuk/MT. so lets eliminate them. if you got an owner to do 2 firsts for them, go ahead and offer deals for everyone else on their teams too because they confused
- Hilton+DT aren't guys I think will be reliable enough to sacrifice the future for (since we are focusing on this year)
- Diggs production is when healthy. but who knows when that will be. He is great, but hes just personally not a guy ill pay for because I just don't like how banged up he always is
- The leaves AGJ, Baldwin, Allen. That's not likely to be close to AJ, and you don't have any really desirable pieces to add to get it closer
- Maybe that's enough for Keenan, but I'd prefer Baldwin short term anyways. Start with one first for him, hopefully the guys trying to lose.

I said this is assuming an all-in move because if its not, there is no reason at all to sell picks now, they'll only go up in value
You misinterpreted my direction. It's not just an "all in" move. I'm also looking toward the future, mostly next year. I do think I have an outside chance to win this year especially with a good edition at 4-3, which is somehow the 3rd best record with points as the tie breaker. It's a 12 team league BTW. I'd definitely like younger assets, but I want to explore all options. Thank you for your feedback.
I didn't misinterpret it, but like I said, if it isn't an All-in Move, then there isn't much reason to be trading picks now. 2 things, the picks will only rise in value as the draft comes along, and the older wr's will be more affordable in the offseason than in-season (most likely). 2 late firsts typically wont get you any of the good young wr's (the coopers/Nuk/Cooks/MT group). Maybe Davis because he's hurt, that's really the only guy I think it makes sense to sell picks for now if you aren't making a realistic title run this year. Sammy would be a guy to go for (if you think he ever turns into what we thought he'd be)

Admittedly, I just cant get myself to buy in on Hill because I've convinced myself the big plays will stop eventually.
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Re: Which WR are worth 2 2018 1sts?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:00 am

Keenan Allen
Dez
Michael Thomas
Hilton
Diggs
Amari Cooper+
Watkins+
DT+
Landry
G Tate (1 First should get it done)
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COOK/JACOBS/MIXON, Dobbins, Swift, Hunt, Singletary, Bell, B Hill, Wilkins
NUK/HILL/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Diontae J, Hollywood, Ruggs, Pittman, Hilton, G Davis, Snead
KITTLE, Waller, Akins, H Bryant
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Re: Which WR are worth 2 2018 1sts?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:01 am

Vcize wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:30 am
dblj1199 wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:27 am
The problem is I don't think your team is a top team with all of the injuries you have on your roster.
I dunno, Wilson/Zeke/Freeman/Crabtree/Whatever WR he trades for is a pretty strong core. And both DJ and Woodhead should be back in time for the fantasy playoffs. Something like Wilson/Dj/Zeke/Freeman/Dez/Crabtree is a pretty strong playoff team, if not the likely favorite.
Anyone still thinking DJ is coming back for the end of the season is sorely mistaken. especially with Palmer out, no way
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K Allen, Hopkins,McLaurin, AROB M Williams,MVS
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Re: Which WR are worth 2 2018 1sts?

Postby dd041496 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:11 am

briank wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:06 am
Again, the 1sts should be mid to late. More likely late.

Best WR on sub .500 teams:

Hilton
Cooper
Green
Baldwin
MThomas
Demaryius
Diggs
Hopkins
Allen
I really like Hopkins for 2 Firsts personally but wouldn’t rule out almost all the others for 2 firsts besides Allen(too expensive), DT (age), Baldwin, and maybe rule out TY (if you’re looking for contribution this year).
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Re: Which WR are worth 2 2018 1sts?

Postby Ghosted » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:12 am

If they both really project to be late 1sts, I would temper my expectations regarding a return and wouldn't turn my nose up and Dez or Landry.

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Re: Which WR are worth 2 2018 1sts?

Postby briank » Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:48 am

Trade completed:

My 2 late 1sts for AJ Green
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Wilson
RB Mixon/Ja. Williams/Bernard/Davis
WR Thomas/DJ Moore/Robinson/TY/Washington
TE Kelce/Ertz/Cook
Picks 1.03

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Roethlisberger/Fitzpatrick
RB Cook/Zeke/Mixon/Ja. Williams/Hines
WR Evans/Godwin/Golladay/Lockett/Cooks/Fuller/Pittman
TE Kittle/L. Thomas/Tonyan

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Burrow
RB Jacobs/Penny/Dillon/Edwards
WR Adams/Diggs/AJ Brown/Godwin/Woods/Boyd/Ruggs/Davis
TE Kittle/Henry/Njoku/Irv Smith

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 11
QB Jackson/Roethlisberger/Brees
RB Da. Johnson/Gurley
WR Adams/Hopkins/Julio/Thielen/Hilton
TE Kelce/Ertz/Irv

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Goff
RB
WR Jefferson/Juju/Sutton/Juedy/DSamuel
TE Kittle/Fant/Njoku
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Re: Which WR are worth 2 2018 1sts?

Postby vbbish » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:07 am

briank wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:48 am
Trade completed:

My 2 late 1sts for AJ Green
Nicely done
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RB: Gurley, M. Gordon, R. Penny, M. Ingram, T. Cohen, D. Montgomery, JT, Dillon
WR: Hopkins, Godwin, AJG, Boyd, Diggs, J. Brown
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Re: Which WR are worth 2 2018 1sts?

Postby Goddard » Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:21 pm

vbbish wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:07 am
briank wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:48 am
Trade completed:

My 2 late 1sts for AJ Green
Nicely done
That's a steal.

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Re: Which WR are worth 2 2018 1sts?

Postby psfox2010 » Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:39 pm

Wow! Great deal for you. Congrats.
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