Rebuilding in progress

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Rebuilding in progress

Postby trc » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:14 am

Hi all,

Wanted to share my main team (in sig) rebuild proces for two reasons:
- Getting some feedback on my moves and
- to give other people ideas going forward for both rebuilding and trading

Preface - as I for like the 4th straight season were looking like a contender before season, but started 1-5, I really wanted to try something new and get some value of my aging players.

So started to do some trading - It took a loooong time to land these deals, as my league is VERY focused on youth and the owners have a hard time comitting to win-now-mode unless their team is über loaded. So getting fair value is difficult and settled on some of my trades.

Team before trading:
QB: Luck, Brees
RB: Lamar, Crowell, Gio, Marlon Mack, Aaron Jones
WR: AB, Dez, Doug, Alshon, Jmatt
TE: Walker, Bennet

1st trade:
Gave: AB + Aaron Jones + 2018 3rd + 2018 4th + 2019 4th (after the game were Rodgers got hurt and Jones was bad..)
Got: Corey Davis, 2018 1st (my own), 2019 1st + 2018 2nd

2nd trade:
Gave: Lamar + Marlon Mack
Got: 2019 1st + 2018 2nd (my own)

3rd trade:
Gave: Dez
Got: Watkins

Now I still really want to sell some of my oldest players, as they serve me absolut no good remainer of the year giving me points. Here I am thinking of Brees, Walker and to some degree Baldwin/Alshon. However it will be tough to unload them unless I give a huge discount ->

Brees/Walker it will almost be impossible for me to get anything more than a 3rd each, but I will be happy to do that.
Doug and Alshon will be tough to get anything more than a 1st each, however wouldn't mind letting Alshon be one of my building blocks for the future.

I will update this post going forward - feel free to comment og give advice.
12 team ppr | 0.5 per reception | 4pts pass TD | 6pts rec/rush TD | 1pts per 25 passing yard | 1 pts per 10 rec/rush yard
Start: 1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE

QBs: Mahomes - Garoppolo - Teddy B
RBs: Zeke - Chubb - Gio - Ito Smith - Mark Walton - Darrell Williams - Crowell - Gaskin
WRs: OBJ - Kupp - Godwin - DJ Chark - Sammy Watkins - Corey Davis - N'Keal Harry - JJAW - DT
TEs: Jonnu Smith - Herndon - Trey Burton

Rebuild progress -> http://forum.dynastyleaguefootball.com/ ... 6&t=150498

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Re: Rebuilding in progress

Postby jwb32 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:06 am

Trade 1 - Like it overall....but lots of risk
Trade 2 - think you could have gotten more for Miller
Trade 3 - Like it - but I'm higher on Watkins than many
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE, 1D/ST, 1K.
QBs- Rivers, Jackson
RBs- Mixon, Cook, Sanders, Montgomery, RoJo, Murray, Dexter W, Brian Hill
WRs- OBJ, Hilton, Cooks, Watkins, Crowder, Diontae Johnson, DMoore, Butler
TEs- McDonald, Fant, Waller, Rudolph
2020 1st

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Rodgers, Stafford, Foles
RBs- Zeke, Cook, Hunt, Edwards, Armstead,
WRs- Adams, Boyd, Cooks, Samuel, Crowder, Slayton, Lazard, Boykin, Coutee
TEs- Hooper, Howard, Holister, Olsen, Thomas

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Rivers,Stafford,Trubisky
RBs- Cook, DWilliams, Coleman, Penny, Murray, Snell
WRs- Evans, Allen, Diggs, Boyd, Sutton, Gallup,Samuel, Preston,Crowder
TEs- Waller,Njoku,Jonnu,Herndon,Moreau
2020 - 1.09,2.09

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Re: Rebuilding in progress

Postby crip7300 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:16 am

I think you did pretty well with your trades given the dynamic of your league and the trade market you had to navigate. My suggestion would be to package Brees (maybe the Rodgers owner) with either Doug or Alshon and see if you can't at least get a 1st and a 2nd and maybe a throw in player, if piecing them out individually isn't getting you the offers you want. Also with any late 1sts or 2nds over the next couple years, instead of just taking a decent prospect with the pick, look for opportunities to buy low on possible elite, young talent that had a down year or hasn't broken out yet. Good luck with your rebuild.
Team 1
12 team Non PPR
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Ryan Darnold
RB Bell Gurley Chubb Conner AJones
WR AB OBJ Parker Sanu Quinn Hurd
TE Waller Cook

Team 2
12 team PPR .5 RB/WR, 1 TE
1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2Flex
QB Cam Darnold
RB Barkley Gurley Bell DJ Fournette
WR AB Juju Amari Cooks Watkins DJMoore
TE Kittle Njoku Hockenson

Team 3
12 Team Non PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex 1SF
QB Cam Stafford Darnold
RB Barkley Bell Fournette Coleman Lindsay MBrown
WR OBJ Evans Golladay Pettis Humphries Quinn Renfrow
TE Cook Ebron

Team 4
12 Team PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex
QB BigBen Brissett
RB Gurley Barkley Mixon Mack
WR OBJ Juju DJMoore Kirk Metcalf Alshon
TE Kittle Herndon Waller

Team 5 Bestball
12 Team 30 Keeper
Superflex PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR TE 4Flex 1SF DEF
QB Baker Darnold Carr
RB Gurley Sony Guice DamWilliams Ingram J. Hill Breida AP

WR Juju Diggs Cooks Golladay DJMoore AJBrown Hollywood Alshon JJAWS Tyrell Quinn Ross
TE Kittle Herndon Graham Jonnu

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Re: Rebuilding in progress

Postby BigBawseRoss » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:34 am

that first trade was terrible in my opinion, at least you got davis tho to replace AB (better hope he pans out though)

2nd trade is decent and you prob got the right value for both players

3rd trade is a smart youth over age move and will likely pan out if you hold sammy for another year or two


I would sell off all of your running backs for whatever picks you can get and i would sell off almost all of your TEs.

I would also trade both brees and Luck. Luck might still get you a haul that would greatly help in a rebuild.

good luck thanks for sharing
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Rivers , Rosen, Fitzpatrick, Tyrod
Kamara, McCoy, D FreemanCohen, Bibbs, Clement,J. Allen, ty mont,Ito Smith
K Allen, Hopkins, M Williams, AROB Alshon,KeKe,MVS,T McLaurin
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Trubitsky, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Armstead, Mostert
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans, C Davis, Watkins, Arob, M Williams, Edleman, J Gordon, Hurd
Ertz, Everett, Fant


team 3
http://www61.myfantasyleague.com/2019/o ... =07&F=0008

team 4
https://www55.myfantasyleague.com/2019/ ... =07&F=0010

team 5
http://www57.myfantasyleague.com/2019/o ... =0008&O=07

team 6
http://www54.myfantasyleague.com/2019/o ... =07&F=0004

team 7
https://www51.myfantasyleague.com/2019/ ... =07&F=0011

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Re: Rebuilding in progress

Postby Goddard » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:24 am

Not a huge fan of the trades, but I guess your goal was to get younger and you did that.

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Re: Rebuilding in progress

Postby Slackalacker » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:32 am

I’d suggest don’t just sell for anything, each of those trades except maybe the third one left value on the table probably to the amount of a late first and an early second which could be big tickets in rebuilding.

I would rather package to a very needy team than just sell dirt cheap to someone.
TEAM 1 - 10 team 1ppr 30 man roster | 2017 & 2019 League Champ :dance:
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1FLEX - 1.01/1.02/2.01/3/4/4/5
QB: Brady - Carr - Fitzpatrick
RB: Barkley - CMC - Mixon - Samuels - Bo - Ito - Guice(IR)
WR: Nuk - Adams - DJ - TY - Hollywood - Campbell - Pascal - Perriman - JJAW - Miller - Hurd - Gage - Ward
TE: Engram - Olsen - Stern - Hock(IR)

TEAM 2 - 10 Team 1ppr |2019 Orphan
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX - 2 2020 1sts
QB: Wentz - Brees - Dalton
RB: Cook - Singletary - Duke - Hill - Ito - Riddick - Smallwood - Walton - Wilkins
WR/TE: JuJu - Hill - Samuels - MVS - Kirk - PWill - Enunwa - Lee - Trent Taylor - DT - Sharpe - P Cooper
TE: Olsen - Lacosse - Jonnu

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Re: Rebuilding in progress

Postby trc » Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:01 am

BigBawseRoss wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:34 am
that first trade was terrible in my opinion, at least you got davis tho to replace AB (better hope he pans out though)

I would also trade both brees and Luck. Luck might still get you a haul that would greatly help in a rebuild.

good luck thanks for sharing
Appreciate the input, could you help me understanding these comments? I view them different than you, so have put in my thoughts.

In respect to my first trade, can you put your evaluation in? To understand why you consider it terrible.
From my point of view, I received my own 1st 2018. I hope this pick ends up being 1.01, which could net me Barklay. Does this (+ Davis) equal AB, pretty sure you would have to wear rookie googles to think that - however AB points this year is wasted for me anyways, they would actually harm me.
Plus Aaron Jones + a bunch of picks is for me worth less than 2.01 2018 and 2019 1st.

For the Luck comment - how come you would trade him too?
But I see him as a solid QB for the next 5-10 years. Thus a building block for the future as well.
This is ofc barring injuries, which he has suffered from lately.
12 team ppr | 0.5 per reception | 4pts pass TD | 6pts rec/rush TD | 1pts per 25 passing yard | 1 pts per 10 rec/rush yard
Start: 1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE

QBs: Mahomes - Garoppolo - Teddy B
RBs: Zeke - Chubb - Gio - Ito Smith - Mark Walton - Darrell Williams - Crowell - Gaskin
WRs: OBJ - Kupp - Godwin - DJ Chark - Sammy Watkins - Corey Davis - N'Keal Harry - JJAW - DT
TEs: Jonnu Smith - Herndon - Trey Burton

Rebuild progress -> http://forum.dynastyleaguefootball.com/ ... 6&t=150498

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Re: Rebuilding in progress

Postby trc » Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:06 am

To add more perspective to this league - we vote on every trade that goes down.
Each of my trades listed so far, has been voted win-win by the league. Each of them with 1 vote slightly in my favor.
12 team ppr | 0.5 per reception | 4pts pass TD | 6pts rec/rush TD | 1pts per 25 passing yard | 1 pts per 10 rec/rush yard
Start: 1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE

QBs: Mahomes - Garoppolo - Teddy B
RBs: Zeke - Chubb - Gio - Ito Smith - Mark Walton - Darrell Williams - Crowell - Gaskin
WRs: OBJ - Kupp - Godwin - DJ Chark - Sammy Watkins - Corey Davis - N'Keal Harry - JJAW - DT
TEs: Jonnu Smith - Herndon - Trey Burton

Rebuild progress -> http://forum.dynastyleaguefootball.com/ ... 6&t=150498

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Re: Rebuilding in progress

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:14 am

I just think now maybe wasnt the time to sell AB and usually its not set in stone by week 8 who has what pick so its a gamble and AB is worth a kings ransom as he is seen as one of the top 5 dynasty assets and his high floor makes him worth so much. trading away someone that solid should not net you 2 question marks (although we all love davis and barkley/guice they could all bust and havent done a thing at the pro level like AB has) and even in a rebuild i think AB is a nice piece as he has 3-5 years left. just think he prob should have netted a little more value or something you KNOW will helop your team, rookies are gambles.

I also am just a Luck hater to be honest, he is the hypest of hype beasts. his career numbers are not amazing, his completion percentage is not very good, his turnovers a terrible, his list of injuries is seemingly never ending, YET HIS VALUE REMAINS THRU THE ROOF! thats why i would sell, he can net you so much more to work with rather than a qb who is available half the time and has as many 40 point games as he does 5 point games (ask people how he did championship week a few years back)

I would rather have the picks and/or players i could get for Luck than to actually have Luck, especially in a 1qb league. hell i was a legit threat to win a championship one season with Fitzmagic as my qb because the rest of my roster was very strong and i sitll had a qb with weekly 250 yard 2-3 td potential. QB IS DEEP take advantage of people thinking they need a Luck or Rodgers to be able to compete at a high level and cash in my friend
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Rivers , Rosen, Fitzpatrick, Tyrod
Kamara, McCoy, D FreemanCohen, Bibbs, Clement,J. Allen, ty mont,Ito Smith
K Allen, Hopkins, M Williams, AROB Alshon,KeKe,MVS,T McLaurin
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Trubitsky, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Armstead, Mostert
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans, C Davis, Watkins, Arob, M Williams, Edleman, J Gordon, Hurd
Ertz, Everett, Fant


team 3
http://www61.myfantasyleague.com/2019/o ... =07&F=0008

team 4
https://www55.myfantasyleague.com/2019/ ... =07&F=0010

team 5
http://www57.myfantasyleague.com/2019/o ... =0008&O=07

team 6
http://www54.myfantasyleague.com/2019/o ... =07&F=0004

team 7
https://www51.myfantasyleague.com/2019/ ... =07&F=0011

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Re: Rebuilding in progress

Postby trc » Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:28 am

BigBawseRoss wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:14 am
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Really appreciate the response - can't undo my actions, but can take your points into considerations on future moves.
12 team ppr | 0.5 per reception | 4pts pass TD | 6pts rec/rush TD | 1pts per 25 passing yard | 1 pts per 10 rec/rush yard
Start: 1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE

QBs: Mahomes - Garoppolo - Teddy B
RBs: Zeke - Chubb - Gio - Ito Smith - Mark Walton - Darrell Williams - Crowell - Gaskin
WRs: OBJ - Kupp - Godwin - DJ Chark - Sammy Watkins - Corey Davis - N'Keal Harry - JJAW - DT
TEs: Jonnu Smith - Herndon - Trey Burton

Rebuild progress -> http://forum.dynastyleaguefootball.com/ ... 6&t=150498

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Re: Rebuilding in progress

Postby dblj1199 » Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:21 am

First trade I'm not a fan of, I think AB could have got you more in return. Trade two was ok. I'm not a fan of trade 3. Overall you have added youth and picks, now you need your draft picks to pay off.
2015, 2017 Champ.
ppr, 10 team, 6 pt all td, 30 man roster QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Brissett
RB- Zeke, Hunt, K Johnson(i.r.)Shady, P Barber K Balldage, Darrell Williams, Snell Jr, D Thompson, G Edwards
WR- OBJ, AJ Greene,A Brown, A Cooper, ARob, TY Hilton, D Parker, DeDe Westbrook,
TE- OJ Howard, Waller, Eifert, Gronk, Sternberger
IDP(3)- Littleton, VanderEsch, B Martinez, Devin White, L Collins
K- Butker

Draft picks
2020- 2, 4, 5

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Re: Rebuilding in progress

Postby trc » Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:14 am

So a quick update on this.

Looking at the moves I've made, I'm very satisfied with the outcome so far, as I think I came out on top of every trade long term(at least as of now), esp cause I ended up with 1.01.

Sitting at picks:
1.01
2.01
2.12
2.13 (compensatory pick)
3.01
3.09

On top of that I sit on 2 extra 1st round picks 2019 (besides my own).

Offers has starting coming in for both 1.01 and 2.01.

I am not at all desperate to sell 1.01, as I really could use Barkley.
But if something unbelieveable is offered I will naturally jump it.

2.01 I would be more willing to sell - however I'm considering staying put to pick up one of the top talent QBs to hedge my Andrew Luck.

Thinking about packing 2.12-3.01 to move up the draft.
12 team ppr | 0.5 per reception | 4pts pass TD | 6pts rec/rush TD | 1pts per 25 passing yard | 1 pts per 10 rec/rush yard
Start: 1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE

QBs: Mahomes - Garoppolo - Teddy B
RBs: Zeke - Chubb - Gio - Ito Smith - Mark Walton - Darrell Williams - Crowell - Gaskin
WRs: OBJ - Kupp - Godwin - DJ Chark - Sammy Watkins - Corey Davis - N'Keal Harry - JJAW - DT
TEs: Jonnu Smith - Herndon - Trey Burton

Rebuild progress -> http://forum.dynastyleaguefootball.com/ ... 6&t=150498

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Re: Rebuilding in progress

Postby trc » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:35 am

Updated with a few trades this season and this offseason:

Preseason
Sent: Barkley + Baker + 2020 3rd
Got: OBJ + David Montgomery + JJAW + 2020 1st

Sent: Duke Johnson + Jakobi Meyers + 2020 2nd + 2020 4th
Got: Garroppolo + 2020 1st

In season
Sent: Alshon + my 2020 1st
Got: Kupp

Sent: David Montgomery + 2x 2020 1st (one of them could end up 1.03/1.04, the other 1.06 at best)
Got: Zeke

2 years has passed since OP, and I believe I have ended up with a very potent team for years to come.
I urgent need a top option TE, however with current state I believe the rest of my team can carry the load.
12 team ppr | 0.5 per reception | 4pts pass TD | 6pts rec/rush TD | 1pts per 25 passing yard | 1 pts per 10 rec/rush yard
Start: 1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE

QBs: Mahomes - Garoppolo - Teddy B
RBs: Zeke - Chubb - Gio - Ito Smith - Mark Walton - Darrell Williams - Crowell - Gaskin
WRs: OBJ - Kupp - Godwin - DJ Chark - Sammy Watkins - Corey Davis - N'Keal Harry - JJAW - DT
TEs: Jonnu Smith - Herndon - Trey Burton

Rebuild progress -> http://forum.dynastyleaguefootball.com/ ... 6&t=150498

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Re: Rebuilding in progress

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:13 am

I'm not crazy about the deals, but hopefully it works out long term. Good luck on the rebuild.
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12 Team, PPR, 30 roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen
RB: Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook, Joe Mixon, Alexander Mattison, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

Picks: 2020: 1.01, 1.05, 2.12, 4.08, 5.08 2021: 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th


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