Difference between Diggs and Hopkins?

[gogobradyarm]

straight up are you kidding..

Hopkins has his future QB and no injured consern like said early.

Diggs, has no QB who is healthy, he has injurey issues himself. I have him a tier lower at least.

I also think Hopkins is about to go into the next tier, just my opinion

Situation changes quickly. Vikings have 3 competent QBs in Bradford, Bridgewater and Keenum, all of which have proven they can get the ball to Diggs. Yes they have some injury concerns, but Keenum can get it to Diggs until one of them returns to full health in a few weeks. Also, it was not so long ago that a certain WR proved he could ball out with any QB (not named Brock), and I see enough similiarties between the two players that Diggs can do just the same.

With that said, I still believe Hopkins is a volume dependent WR. I don't believe the same for Diggs. Diggs has similar route running expertise, similar hands (10" mitts) BUT has far superior YAC ability that Hopkins simply doesn't have.

The only thing holding back Diggs has been injury. Personally, I don't believe in 'injury prone' so I think its just a matter of time until we see Diggs bring it together. I'll say this again, I like Diggs more than I like Hopkins.

[gogobradyarm]

Fun Fact:
In 32 games played, Diggs has 3 160+ receiving yard games. He is age 23.
In 70 games played, Hopkins has 2 160+ receiving yard games. He is age 25.

On game play ability alone, its not close for me. I can understand the argument for the best ability is availability. Pick your poison.

[Goddard]

Fun Fact:
In 32 games played, Diggs has 3 160+ receiving yard games. He is age 23.
In 70 games played, Hopkins has 2 160+ receiving yard games. He is age 25.

On game play ability alone, its not close for me. I can understand the argument for the best ability is availability. Pick your poison.

This seems like some random, arbitrary number that you came up with. Luckily for fantasy, you get points for receptions (in most leagues) and TDs. It also leaves out the part that Hopkins had to play with the worst QB of all time last year, and the one's before him weren't that much better. Even this year, as good as Watson has looked, he's still a rookie and has a lot of work to do to be a good real life QB.

[gogobradyarm]

Fun Fact:
In 32 games played, Diggs has 3 160+ receiving yard games. He is age 23.
In 70 games played, Hopkins has 2 160+ receiving yard games. He is age 25.

On game play ability alone, its not close for me. I can understand the argument for the best ability is availability. Pick your poison.

This seems like some random, arbitrary number that you came up with. Luckily for fantasy, you get points for receptions (in most leagues) and TDs. It also leaves out the part that Hopkins had to play with the worst QB of all time last year, and the one's before him weren't that much better. Even this year, as good as Watson has looked, he's still a rookie and has a lot of work to do to be a good real life QB.

It definitely is, but it just goes to show that Diggs ceiling is higher. He has played ~50% less games than Hopkins, and already has 50% more 160+ receiving games. Its completely stat manipulation to tell my side of the story . Diggs is a more explosive Hopkins!

And as far as QB, I understand, but i'll always take the better player over the situation. This is Dynasty, situations change quickly.

[hudini33]

Fun Fact:
In 32 games played, Diggs has 3 160+ receiving yard games. He is age 23.
In 70 games played, Hopkins has 2 160+ receiving yard games. He is age 25.

On game play ability alone, its not close for me. I can understand the argument for the best ability is availability. Pick your poison.

This seems like some random, arbitrary number that you came up with. Luckily for fantasy, you get points for receptions (in most leagues) and TDs. It also leaves out the part that Hopkins had to play with the worst QB of all time last year, and the one's before him weren't that much better. Even this year, as good as Watson has looked, he's still a rookie and has a lot of work to do to be a good real life QB.

It definitely is, but it just goes to show that Diggs ceiling is higher. He has played ~50% less games than Hopkins, and already has 50% more 160+ receiving games. Its completely stat manipulation to tell my side of the story . Diggs is a more explosive Hopkins!

And as far as QB, I understand, but i'll always take the better player over the situation. This is Dynasty, situations change quickly.

I'm going to disagree with the analogy. Hopkins hands are WAY better than Diggs'. Not saying Diggs can't catch, but I think Hopkins has one of the two best pairs of hands in the league. I will agree that diggs has a slightly higher ceiling, but let's be honest, how many reach their ceiling?

[gogobradyarm]

This seems like some random, arbitrary number that you came up with. Luckily for fantasy, you get points for receptions (in most leagues) and TDs. It also leaves out the part that Hopkins had to play with the worst QB of all time last year, and the one's before him weren't that much better. Even this year, as good as Watson has looked, he's still a rookie and has a lot of work to do to be a good real life QB.

It definitely is, but it just goes to show that Diggs ceiling is higher. He has played ~50% less games than Hopkins, and already has 50% more 160+ receiving games. Its completely stat manipulation to tell my side of the story . Diggs is a more explosive Hopkins!

And as far as QB, I understand, but i'll always take the better player over the situation. This is Dynasty, situations change quickly.

I'm going to disagree with the analogy. Hopkins hands are WAY better than Diggs'. Not saying Diggs can't catch, but I think Hopkins has one of the two best pairs of hands in the league. I will agree that diggs has a slightly higher ceiling, but let's be honest, how many reach their ceiling?

This is simply false. Look at all the stats. Diggs has a better catch and contested catch rate.

[Cabana]

I'm piling on Nuk side and I think a mid-early 1st is the difference between them

[thomasscheeks]

It would take way too much for me to trade Hopkins for Diggs, an early first at least. It wouldn't even be worth it on your end. But maybe I value Hopkins too high?

[WhatWouldDitkaDo]

What's the difference between the two? 2nd? 1st?

I feel like this is one of those situations where the Diggs owner will want Hopkins + 2nd, and the Hopkins owner will want Diggs + 2nd.

[hudini33]

It definitely is, but it just goes to show that Diggs ceiling is higher. He has played ~50% less games than Hopkins, and already has 50% more 160+ receiving games. Its completely stat manipulation to tell my side of the story . Diggs is a more explosive Hopkins!

And as far as QB, I understand, but i'll always take the better player over the situation. This is Dynasty, situations change quickly.

I'm going to disagree with the analogy. Hopkins hands are WAY better than Diggs'. Not saying Diggs can't catch, but I think Hopkins has one of the two best pairs of hands in the league. I will agree that diggs has a slightly higher ceiling, but let's be honest, how many reach their ceiling?

This is simply false. Look at all the stats. Diggs has a better catch and contested catch rate.

I would also look at quality of targets..

[hudini33]

What's the difference between the two? 2nd? 1st?

I feel like this is one of those situations where the Diggs owner will want Hopkins + 2nd, and the Hopkins owner will want Diggs + 2nd.

I am the diggs owner and would give Diggs+for Hopkins

[believeinthehunter]

The best ability is availability! Diggs has missed multiple game with soft tissue damage three straight years now, its legitimate to wonder when will his athleticism and explosion fade. Nuk, is a bona fide WR1 if I was dealing Nuk for Diggs, I would want another solid player and a first round pick.

[j_thunda_]

Hopkins is averaging 10.3 yards per reception. He is strictly volume dependent as he has little to no yards after catch ability. I am shocked by people expecting a 1st with Diggs to get Hopkins. I would rather have Diggs straight up.

I agree with this, but understand the other side of the argument based on health and QB. However, if that changes in 2018 with Diggs you are looking at Diggs>Hopkins.

[j_thunda_]

Does anyone else not see that the same argument on Diggs was made on Hopkins last year when it comes to QB situation. We are always one draft away from complete different outcomes.

Granted Hopkins doesn’t have injury concerns, but he also doesn’t have the Talent that Diggs does. One could argue the talent ceiling might be worth the injury risk considering the rest of your squad. Situation dependent imo.

Full disclosure I’m a diggs owner for the first time. I don’t see Diggs falling to the turf when a DB looks in his direction like I do with Hopkins. Likely why Hopkins stays healthy. Double edge sword I guess.

[Coogan Football]

Big difference, imo. Hopkins is top tier, while Diggs is t2 or t3.

I agree

Diggs side is gonna have to add a 1st to get me interested