Alshon vs Moncrief

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Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby AndrewS » Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:19 am

For team 1 in sig...have Alshon and trying to determine if I should move him for Moncrief and a random 1st? How does the forum feel about Moncrief going forward?
Team 1 - 12 Team Half PPR
Start 1 QB, 2-4 RB, 3-5 WR, 1-3 TE, 1 D/ST
Total Starters = 10
Russel Wilson, Eli Manning
Bell, Howard, Hyde, J Williams, Smallwood, A Jones, J Allen, D Washington
M Thomas, B Cooks, D Hopkins, A Jeffery, Meredith, Boyd, Caroo, Smelter, T Benjamin, C Hansen
Ebron, Butt, V McDonald, G Kittle
2018 1, 1, 3, 4 2019 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4

Team 2 - 12 Team Half PPR
Start 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-2 TE, 1 D/ST, 1 K
Total Starters = 10
Brees, Bortles, Goff, Fitzpatrick
D Freeman, L Miller, JStew, CJ Anderson, J Hill, J Williams
TY Hilton, K Allen, A Thielen, Tate, Stills, Hogan, Wheaton, Hansen
Graham, Walker, Z Miller

Team 3 - 12 Team Full PPR
Start 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 4 FLEX (RB/WR/TE)
Total Starters = 8
A Rodgers
Ingram, Ware, Martin, L Murray, AP, Artis-Payne, Quizz Rodgers, D Lewis, R Jennings, Josh Ferguson
AJ Green, J Landry, D Baldwin, E Decker, J Brown, R Cobb, J Janis, T Smith
J Reed, E Ebron, E Swoope, J Heuerman

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby The.Big.Spank » Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:00 am

I have a hard time determining who is the bigger tease, him or Watkins
10 Team, 1 pt PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex

QB: Wentz, Mayfield, Carr
RB: Gurley, Barkley, Elliott, Edmonds,
WR: M. Thomas, JuJu, Godwin, Adams, Whiteside, P. Williams
TE: Henry,Waller, Hockinson

2020 1.5,6,8,10 firsts

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby Bulletproof » Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:38 am

I'd probably roll the dice with Moncrief and the 1st. I think Alshon's best days might be behind him.
12 Team PPR, TE 1.5 PPR, 16 Keepers, Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 FLEX, 1 TE
QB: Brees, Wentz, Trubisky
RB: Zeke, Gurley, Mixon, Josh Jacobs, James Robinson
WR: Tyreek, Thielen, DJ Moore, Calvin Ridley, Justin Jefferson
TE: Kittle, Hunter Henry, Mark Andrews

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby Kramer » Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:43 am

Alshon if you're a contender or if the 1st is projected late. I don't like Moncrief much, so if I did this trade, I'd want to flip him for something else.
10 team SF .5ppr-QB,2RB,2WR,TE,Flex,SF,K,Def (30 spots)
QB: Winston,Dak,Dalton,Foles
RB: Fournette,Barkley,Mixon,Guice,Chubb,Foreman,Collins,Joe Williams,Yeldon,Scarborough
WR: Nuk,Davis,CoCo,JMatt,Doctson,Treadwell,Tyrell,Richardson
TE: Ertz,Eifert,Hooper,Everett,Shaheen,Burton,Butt

10 team SF PPR-QB,2RB,3WR,2TE,Flex,SF,2IDP,K,Def (35 spots)
QB: Rodgers,Wilson,Luck, Smith
RB: Fournette,McCoy,Mixon,Foreman,Martin,Powell,Conner,Collins
WR: Nuk,Hilton,Alshon,ARob,Davis,Tate,Gordon,MikeWilliams,Doctson,Kupp,Godwin
TE: Graham,Olsen,Henry,Howard,Everett,Kittle,Burton,Gathers
IDP: Bowmann,Burfict,Lee

28 team PPR SF, x2 copy, 0.2 PPC, 1.5PPR for TE - 1QB/1RB/1WR/1TE/5Flex/1SF (22+4IR+6Taxi)
QB: Wentz,Luck,Brissett
RB: Bell,Dixon,Gillislee,AP,Joe Williams,Perkins,Kelley
WR: Nuk,Hilton,ARob,Watkins,Decker
TE: Howard,Reed,Brate

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby yonald » Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:49 am

Just recently dealt Moncrief for the 2.04 rookie pick.

This meant I'm keeping Garçon over Moncrief
12 team. .5 PPR, 6pt passing, 6 pt rushing/receiving. 25 man roster.
Start - QB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex DL DL LB LB DB DB IDP Flex
Keepers offense - 1 QB 1 RB 1 WR 1 TE 1 FLEX
defense - 3 of any position
rookies - 3 of any position

QB: Watson
RB: Zeke, Ekeler, Dobbins (R), Dillon (R)
WR: Hill, Aiyuk (R)
TE: Waller
DE: Donald
LB: Martinez, Roquan Smith
DB:

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby Favrezilla » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:41 am

Alshon any day or format. Even with a first unless it's guaranteed top3-4

I also really dislike moncreif .
T.1 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex (11th year)
2020: 4-4 || 3 time runner-up
QB: Mahomes, Wentz, Stafford, Burrow
RB: Chubb, Henry, Mixon, Mike Davis,
WR: ARob, DJ Moore, Hollywood, Fulgham, AB, Williams, Davis, Alshon, Shep
TE: Ertz, Jonnu
Picks: 2021: 1, 2, 2, 3

T.2 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex - 1xWRT Flex (8th year)
2020: 5-3 || 2017: champ || 2018 & 19: Runner-up
QB: Wentz, Brees, Fitz, Winston
RB: Miles, Mixon, Henry, Gurley, Michel, Hyde
WR: Keenan, Evans, ARob, Juju, Parker, Davis, Robby, Preston, Tyler,
TE: Gronk, Goedert, Kmet
Picks: 2021: 1, 2, 2, 3

T.3 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex - 1xWRT Flex (1st year)
2020: 4-4
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Darnald, Winston
RB: Sanders, JT, Kelley, Jamaal
WR: Godwin, Robby, Claypool, Pittman, Fulgham, Reagor, Mims, MW, Preston
TE: Fant, hock
Picks: 2021: 1, 2, 3

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby Meretc01 » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:13 am

I like moncrief.. Alshon is another Sammy at times.. doI would lean that way
12Team 1QB 3 WR 2 RB 1 TE 2 Flex
QB: Tannehill, Smith
RB: Swift, Gibson, Cohen, Mckissic, Dallas
WR: Jefferson, Pittman, Reagor, Parker, Slayton, G.Davis, Cephus, C.Sims
TE: Jonnu, Dissly, Sample
2021 Picks: 1st-1 2nd- 3 3rd-1

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby yonald » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:25 am

I prefer Alshon over Moncrief.

I worry about Moncrief relying too heavily on TDs which might not come this year
12 team. .5 PPR, 6pt passing, 6 pt rushing/receiving. 25 man roster.
Start - QB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex DL DL LB LB DB DB IDP Flex
Keepers offense - 1 QB 1 RB 1 WR 1 TE 1 FLEX
defense - 3 of any position
rookies - 3 of any position

QB: Watson
RB: Zeke, Ekeler, Dobbins (R), Dillon (R)
WR: Hill, Aiyuk (R)
TE: Waller
DE: Donald
LB: Martinez, Roquan Smith
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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby Tripwired » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:25 am

They're both injury prone, but alshon looks healthy and fit for a change. I kinda feel like they're very similar in production.... If healthy. I'd probably lean alshon ever so slightl if I wanted to compete this season, but they both carry a certain degree of risk. I guess for me the kicker would be where you project the first round pick to range. Top 3-4, or later? Also, I like the Luck to Moncrief pairing over the Wentz to Alshon combo, so maybe the qb could help in deciding. However, Moncrief is in the final year of his deal. I guys for me it's all going to hinge on the round one pick range.
10 team Dynasty league with 6pts for all TDs. 
QB, 2RB, 2WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2010
League champ: 2013, 2014, 2015(runner-up), 2016, 2017(runner-up), 2018
QB- Burrow, Large Benjamin, Danny Dimes
RB- Saquon, Kamara, Zeke, Chubb, JK, Akers
WR- DK, Jefferson, Cooper, Tee, Diontae, OBJ, Pittman, Gabe Davis, Slayton
TE- Engram, Goedert, Irv, H. Bryant
DST - Colts
Picks 2021 - 1.02, 1.07, 2.02, 2.04, 2.05

10 team PPR Dynasty with 6pts for all TDs. 
QB, 2RB, 3WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2019
QB- Wilson, Large Benjamin
RB- Taylor, CEH, Swift, Miles Sanders, AJ Dillon
WR- Hopkins, Jefferson, DJM, OBJ, Diontae, Deebo, Reagor, P. Williams, Gabe Davis
TE- Hockenson, Irv Smith, Gesicki, H. Bryant
Dst - Pit, Indy
Picks- 2021 - 3rd & 4th round only ☹

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby sugbear65 » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:39 am

Both guys that have underperformed compared to the lofty expectations placed on them early on. I think upside wise they have the same ceiling. But I think Alshon's woes are partly because he's fat and lazy. As an Eagles fan I hope I'm wrong, but I'm just not a Jeffrey fan. I have no animosity towards Moncrief though, lol. If I could get a 2018 1st on top of him for Alshon, I'd have already sold him.

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby jojo5151 » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:41 am

Alshon if you want to win now
TEAM 1
12 Team Non-PPR
1QB, 1-2RB, 3-4 WR 1 K 1 D
QB - Watson, Herbert, G
RB - Kamara, Jacobs, L. Murray, Mattison, J. Wislon,
WR - M. Thomas, Thielen, Godwin, Julio,T. Johnson, Coutee P. Williams , Zaccheaus
TN/TB Def

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby Pvdawg5 » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:50 am

If you want to win now. Alshon. If rebuilding the other side. If you think the 1st will be top 7 id prob lean the pick and moncreif
Team 1 - 12 tm PPR, Superflex
QB- Wentz, Watson, Mariota, foles, Allen
RB- Zeke, Mixon, Abdullah, Dixon, Booker, Jamaal Williams, Buck Allen, Chris Carson, Ronald jones,
WR- Mike Thomas, DT, Kupp, Courtland Sutton, Mike Williams, Treadwell, garçon, Maurice Harris, Richie James, Chad Williams, deon Cain
TE- Hooper, Njoku, Engram, Hugbee
Picks 2019 - 1 1st, 1 3rd

Team 2 - 12 Team PPR Home League, Commish
QB - Carr, Flacco, Mahomes
RB - Cook, Mixon, Ingram, Ware, gillislee, Powell
WR - Julio, OBJ, Watkins, Jordy, Moncreif, Parker, Sanders, Martavis Bryant, Doctson, enunwa
TE - Eifert, fleener, Howard, Njoku
K - Prater
Def - Falcons, Giants
2018 picks - 2 1sts, 1 2nd, 1 3rd

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby Goddard » Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:24 pm

Favrezilla wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:41 am
Alshon any day or format. Even with a first unless it's guaranteed top3-4

I also really dislike moncreif .
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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:35 pm

Alshon is the only one that's proven to be elite rather than just hoped to be
12 man Superflex deep starting requirements with even scoring among positions

11 starters - QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, Superflex, Flex, Flex, Flex.

1 PPR, 1 points every 10 yards rushing/receiving, 4 points per 100 passing, 4 point passing TDs, -2 INT.

TE premium 1.5 PPR and 1 point per 8.5 yards receiving.

QB- Russel Wilson, Joe Burrow, Matt Ryan, Tua Tagovailoa

RB -CEH, Kalen Ballage, Justin Jackson(ir), Chris Thopmson, Ryan Nall, Devine Ogzibo

WR - OBJ(IR), JuJu, Keenan Allen, DJ Chark, Tyler Boyd, Brandon Aiyuck,

TE - Dallas Goedert, Noah Fant, Gerald Everett, Logan Thomas, Drew Sample, Robert Tonyan, Dalton Schultz

IR- Quez Watkins,

2021 -1,2,2,2,5
2022-1,1,2,4,5

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Re: Alshon vs Moncrief

Postby vixen » Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:46 pm

Goddard wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:24 pm
Favrezilla wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:41 am
Alshon any day or format. Even with a first unless it's guaranteed top3-4

I also really dislike moncreif .
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same with me...i am going to try to trade him in my league as soon as he has a good game
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
mahomes, Dan Jones
kamara, mack, lindsay,Love, Pollard
antonio, AJG, thielen, sutton, kirk, Hurd, JJAW, Slayton, Gage
Hooper, Herndon
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Jimmy GQ, Brissett
DHenry, DJ, DFreeman, McKinnon, Darwin Thompson, CEH, JT/Mack
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Sutton,Jo Brown, Boyd, ]JJAW, Harmon, Preston Williams, Coulter, Collin Johnson
Andrews, Herndon, Fant, Albert O
team 3-superflex/TE premium 1-2QB 1-6RB 2-7WR 1-6TE (10 total)
R/W=.2ppc/1ppr/.25pt per target TE=1.5ppr/.35per target/.15per yd
also .1pt per return yd/.05 per attempt
Josh Allen,Jones, Love
Cook, Chubb, Sanders, Swift, Vaughn, Latavius
Lockett, Kupp, Jo Brown, Slayton, Preston Williams, Isabella, Hurd, Funchess, Edwards, Collin Johnson
Andrews, Herndon/Griffin, I Thomas, Fant, Moreau, Parham, Asiasi, Gronk


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