Dez or 1.01
Dez or 1.01
I'd be giving up Dez for Team 2 in sig. PPR. I'd probably lean Fournette for the pick. I have pretty good WR depth, and nothing at RB. I also hold 1.07.
12 man PPR | Bonus pts for 100 yard games | 1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 2 FLEX
Palmer | Eli
CJA | Ajayi | Kelley | Hightower | Rawls | CMike | Sims
ABrown | Dez | MThomas | SDiggs | DAdams | SShepard | CMeredith | MFloyd | JGordon
Graham | Ertz | Pitta | James
12 man PPR | Bonus pts for 100 yard games | 1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 2 FLEX
Palmer | Eli
CJA | Ajayi | Kelley | Hightower | Rawls | CMike | Sims
ABrown | Dez | MThomas | SDiggs | DAdams | SShepard | CMeredith | MFloyd | JGordon
Graham | Ertz | Pitta | James
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Re: Dez or 1.01
first, everyone on here will tell you its close, but go with Dez.
2nd I took their advice in a leauge and traded Mixon (1.04) for Dez and was told I made an big mistake.
Id rather have fournette over dez but thats about it personally.
2nd I took their advice in a leauge and traded Mixon (1.04) for Dez and was told I made an big mistake.
Id rather have fournette over dez but thats about it personally.
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The Wookies
12 team PPR League
S: 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1TE, 1FLEX, 1K, 1DEF
QBs: Brady, Flacco
RBs: Zeke, D Murray, McKinnon, Powell
WRs: Hopkins, Cooks, J Nelson, Baldwin, R Matthews, Quick
TEs: Reed, Rudolph, Davis
K: Dawson
DEF: CAR, BAL
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Tune Squad
16 team .5PPR League
S: 1QB 1RB 1WR 1TE 3FLEX
QBs: Wilson, Keenum, Flacco
RBs: McCoy, Howard, McKinnon, B Allen, Woodhead
WRs: Evans, Julio, Tate, Smith
TEs: Rudolph, Clay
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Midwest Folks
Co-Owner: pierson242
16 team .5PPR Full IDP League
S: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 3FLEX
QBs: Brees, Wentz, Beathard
RBs: Murray, Miller, Ingram, Gore, Riddick
WRs: AB, Hilton, Dez, Tate, Lafell, Inman, Rodgers, Kearse
TEs: Rudolph, Davis, Watson
DTs: Short, McCoy, Lotulelei, Allen, Sims
DEs: Dunlap, Hicks, Wolf, Robison
LBs: Kirksey, Williams, Foster, Hicks, Perryman, Posluszny, Alexander, Walker, Morgan
CBs: Alford, Slay, Harris, Waynes, Randall, Bradberry, Trufant
Ss: Vaccaro, Mathieu, Church, Evans, Sendejo
The Wookies
12 team PPR League
S: 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1TE, 1FLEX, 1K, 1DEF
QBs: Brady, Flacco
RBs: Zeke, D Murray, McKinnon, Powell
WRs: Hopkins, Cooks, J Nelson, Baldwin, R Matthews, Quick
TEs: Reed, Rudolph, Davis
K: Dawson
DEF: CAR, BAL
9-1
Tune Squad
16 team .5PPR League
S: 1QB 1RB 1WR 1TE 3FLEX
QBs: Wilson, Keenum, Flacco
RBs: McCoy, Howard, McKinnon, B Allen, Woodhead
WRs: Evans, Julio, Tate, Smith
TEs: Rudolph, Clay
8-2
Midwest Folks
Co-Owner: pierson242
16 team .5PPR Full IDP League
S: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 3FLEX
QBs: Brees, Wentz, Beathard
RBs: Murray, Miller, Ingram, Gore, Riddick
WRs: AB, Hilton, Dez, Tate, Lafell, Inman, Rodgers, Kearse
TEs: Rudolph, Davis, Watson
DTs: Short, McCoy, Lotulelei, Allen, Sims
DEs: Dunlap, Hicks, Wolf, Robison
LBs: Kirksey, Williams, Foster, Hicks, Perryman, Posluszny, Alexander, Walker, Morgan
CBs: Alford, Slay, Harris, Waynes, Randall, Bradberry, Trufant
Ss: Vaccaro, Mathieu, Church, Evans, Sendejo
Re: Dez or 1.01
1.01 for me.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, AD, Pearsall, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Moss, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Kmet, Jordan, Higbee
PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington
PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Caleb, Daniels, Cousins,
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez
St. Brown, MHJ, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Odunze, Doubs, Pearsall, Washington, Baker, Cowing, Thrash
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Schoonmaker, Hurst
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, AD, Pearsall, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Moss, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Kmet, Jordan, Higbee
PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington
PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Caleb, Daniels, Cousins,
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez
St. Brown, MHJ, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Odunze, Doubs, Pearsall, Washington, Baker, Cowing, Thrash
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Schoonmaker, Hurst
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Re: Dez or 1.01
so would you rather take LF or have Dez, sounds like you went both ways here (I'm probably reading this wrong somehow). I think I'd Lean LF, but I think id try and talk to the 1.4/1.3 owner to see if the cost is a bit lower.ADrunkenCaveman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:39 am first, everyone on here will tell you its close, but go with Dez.
2nd I took their advice in a leauge and traded Mixon (1.04) for Dez and was told I made an big mistake.
Id rather have fournette over dez but thats about it personally.
10 Team League .5 PPR QB, 3WR, 2RB, TE, 2FLEX, K, DEF
QB: Brees, Big Ben, Watson
WR: Julio Jones, AJ Green, Alshon Jeffery, DeVante Parker,Sammy Watkins, Michael Crabtree, Agholor
RB: Le'Veon Bell, Todd Gurley, Fournette, Lynch, Conner
TE: Travis Kelce , Hooper, Doyle
K: Bryant
DEF: JAX
QB: Brees, Big Ben, Watson
WR: Julio Jones, AJ Green, Alshon Jeffery, DeVante Parker,Sammy Watkins, Michael Crabtree, Agholor
RB: Le'Veon Bell, Todd Gurley, Fournette, Lynch, Conner
TE: Travis Kelce , Hooper, Doyle
K: Bryant
DEF: JAX
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Re: Dez or 1.01
I guess I coulda put quotes in..QuintorrisLopezJones wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:53 amso would you rather take LF or have Dez, sounds like you went both ways here (I'm probably reading this wrong somehow). I think I'd Lean LF, but I think id try and talk to the 1.4/1.3 owner to see if the cost is a bit lower.ADrunkenCaveman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:39 am first, everyone on here will tell you its close, but go with Dez.
2nd I took their advice in a leauge and traded Mixon (1.04) for Dez and was told I made an big mistake.
Id rather have fournette over dez but thats about it personally.
Everyone on here will tell you "its close, but go with Dez"
then the rest.. I get where that may have been confusing though lol
17-2
The Wookies
12 team PPR League
S: 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1TE, 1FLEX, 1K, 1DEF
QBs: Brady, Flacco
RBs: Zeke, D Murray, McKinnon, Powell
WRs: Hopkins, Cooks, J Nelson, Baldwin, R Matthews, Quick
TEs: Reed, Rudolph, Davis
K: Dawson
DEF: CAR, BAL
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Tune Squad
16 team .5PPR League
S: 1QB 1RB 1WR 1TE 3FLEX
QBs: Wilson, Keenum, Flacco
RBs: McCoy, Howard, McKinnon, B Allen, Woodhead
WRs: Evans, Julio, Tate, Smith
TEs: Rudolph, Clay
8-2
Midwest Folks
Co-Owner: pierson242
16 team .5PPR Full IDP League
S: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 3FLEX
QBs: Brees, Wentz, Beathard
RBs: Murray, Miller, Ingram, Gore, Riddick
WRs: AB, Hilton, Dez, Tate, Lafell, Inman, Rodgers, Kearse
TEs: Rudolph, Davis, Watson
DTs: Short, McCoy, Lotulelei, Allen, Sims
DEs: Dunlap, Hicks, Wolf, Robison
LBs: Kirksey, Williams, Foster, Hicks, Perryman, Posluszny, Alexander, Walker, Morgan
CBs: Alford, Slay, Harris, Waynes, Randall, Bradberry, Trufant
Ss: Vaccaro, Mathieu, Church, Evans, Sendejo
The Wookies
12 team PPR League
S: 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1TE, 1FLEX, 1K, 1DEF
QBs: Brady, Flacco
RBs: Zeke, D Murray, McKinnon, Powell
WRs: Hopkins, Cooks, J Nelson, Baldwin, R Matthews, Quick
TEs: Reed, Rudolph, Davis
K: Dawson
DEF: CAR, BAL
9-1
Tune Squad
16 team .5PPR League
S: 1QB 1RB 1WR 1TE 3FLEX
QBs: Wilson, Keenum, Flacco
RBs: McCoy, Howard, McKinnon, B Allen, Woodhead
WRs: Evans, Julio, Tate, Smith
TEs: Rudolph, Clay
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Midwest Folks
Co-Owner: pierson242
16 team .5PPR Full IDP League
S: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 3FLEX
QBs: Brees, Wentz, Beathard
RBs: Murray, Miller, Ingram, Gore, Riddick
WRs: AB, Hilton, Dez, Tate, Lafell, Inman, Rodgers, Kearse
TEs: Rudolph, Davis, Watson
DTs: Short, McCoy, Lotulelei, Allen, Sims
DEs: Dunlap, Hicks, Wolf, Robison
LBs: Kirksey, Williams, Foster, Hicks, Perryman, Posluszny, Alexander, Walker, Morgan
CBs: Alford, Slay, Harris, Waynes, Randall, Bradberry, Trufant
Ss: Vaccaro, Mathieu, Church, Evans, Sendejo
Re: Dez or 1.01
I voted Dez, but it is 50/50 to me and depends on needs. Dez value in trades seems to be below his roster value
Team 1, 0.5 PPR SuperFlex: QB, FlexQB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, Flex
QB: Watson, Herbert (Mariota)
RB: Barkley, Jacobs, Dobbins (Akers, K Herbert)
WR: DJ Moore, Woods, Golladay (T Patrick, Shenault, Rondale M, Cephus)
TE: Goedert (Njoku, Bryant, Trautman)
Pick 1.01
QB: Watson, Herbert (Mariota)
RB: Barkley, Jacobs, Dobbins (Akers, K Herbert)
WR: DJ Moore, Woods, Golladay (T Patrick, Shenault, Rondale M, Cephus)
TE: Goedert (Njoku, Bryant, Trautman)
Pick 1.01
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Re: Dez or 1.01
well i personally think from a value and fantasy impact standpoint id rather have 1.01
i think IFF you got 1.01 for Dez you could flip it or Fournette for more than you could Dez.
i am a believer in Dez and i traded for him a couple months ago - and i got him CHEAP, traded Big Ben and 1.10 for Tanney (ouch) Dez and 2x2nds ('17&'18) but thats how a diehard Dez fan valued him...
i think IFF you got 1.01 for Dez you could flip it or Fournette for more than you could Dez.
i am a believer in Dez and i traded for him a couple months ago - and i got him CHEAP, traded Big Ben and 1.10 for Tanney (ouch) Dez and 2x2nds ('17&'18) but thats how a diehard Dez fan valued him...
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QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Stafford,
RB: Mixon, Henry, zeke, Rochon
WR: Godwin, Olave, Deebo,DJM, Dell, MW, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Musgrave
T.2 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex - 1xWRT Flex (10th year)
QB: Burrow, Baker,Jameis, jimmy, Wentz,
RB: Saquon, Mixon, Rochon, Evans
WR: Pickens, QJ, Thielen, Arob, Juju, ODB, D. Parker, Osborn,
TE: Kincaid, Ertz, Freirmuth, Taysom, JWoods
T.3 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex - 1xWRT Flex (3rd year) ‘21&’22 champ
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Winston, Darnald
RB: JT, Javonte,Sanders, JCook, Jamaal
WR: Godwin, Waddle, ARSB, Pittman, MW, Jameson, Zay, Claypool, Toney, Terrance
TE: Hock, Fant, McBride
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Stafford,
RB: Mixon, Henry, zeke, Rochon
WR: Godwin, Olave, Deebo,DJM, Dell, MW, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Musgrave
T.2 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex - 1xWRT Flex (10th year)
QB: Burrow, Baker,Jameis, jimmy, Wentz,
RB: Saquon, Mixon, Rochon, Evans
WR: Pickens, QJ, Thielen, Arob, Juju, ODB, D. Parker, Osborn,
TE: Kincaid, Ertz, Freirmuth, Taysom, JWoods
T.3 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex - 1xWRT Flex (3rd year) ‘21&’22 champ
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Winston, Darnald
RB: JT, Javonte,Sanders, JCook, Jamaal
WR: Godwin, Waddle, ARSB, Pittman, MW, Jameson, Zay, Claypool, Toney, Terrance
TE: Hock, Fant, McBride
Re: Dez or 1.01
I keep going back and forth between Fournette or McCaffery in PPR, even if I had the 1.01. The other guy is a huge Cowboys fan, already has Dak, and no WRs. I'm trying to see if he'll add his 2.01 to the mix, or even Big Ben as well since I also need a better QB.
I'm not going to go overboard and chase him off... but I think he would do 1.01 straight for Dez. I'm just not sure I can do it without him adding something more. Dez is proven, 1.01 is a lotto ticket. Literally a coinflip...
I'm not going to go overboard and chase him off... but I think he would do 1.01 straight for Dez. I'm just not sure I can do it without him adding something more. Dez is proven, 1.01 is a lotto ticket. Literally a coinflip...
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Re: Dez or 1.01
Fournette is the truth
10 Team 2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2Flex
QB: D.Brees, D.Watson, J.Garoppolo, C.Keenum, S.Bradford, T.Bridge, P.Lynch
RB: DJ, L.Fournette, D.Cook, A.Collins, L.Murray, J.White, C.Ivory, C.Carson, T.Rawls, T.Green,
WR: K.Allen, AJG, E.Sanders, R.Anderson, D.Moncrief, TJ. Jones, T.Gabriel, R. Lewis, T.Austin
TE: Gronk, G.Olsen, Ricky Seals-Jones
PK: J.Tucker
DEF: Denver
12 Team PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1Flex 1TE
QB: K.Cousins, D.Prescott, P.Rivers
RB: D.Murray, J.Mixon, D.Henry, T.Rawls, E.McGuire, Buck Allen
WR: L.Fitz, J.Landry, J.Edelman, D.Jackson, A.Thielen, C.Beasley, T.Williams, Z.Jones, D.Henderson, B.Perriman, J.Strong
TE: J.Witten, A.Shaheen, R.Gathers
PK: S.Gostkowski
Def: DEN, STL
QB: D.Brees, D.Watson, J.Garoppolo, C.Keenum, S.Bradford, T.Bridge, P.Lynch
RB: DJ, L.Fournette, D.Cook, A.Collins, L.Murray, J.White, C.Ivory, C.Carson, T.Rawls, T.Green,
WR: K.Allen, AJG, E.Sanders, R.Anderson, D.Moncrief, TJ. Jones, T.Gabriel, R. Lewis, T.Austin
TE: Gronk, G.Olsen, Ricky Seals-Jones
PK: J.Tucker
DEF: Denver
12 Team PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1Flex 1TE
QB: K.Cousins, D.Prescott, P.Rivers
RB: D.Murray, J.Mixon, D.Henry, T.Rawls, E.McGuire, Buck Allen
WR: L.Fitz, J.Landry, J.Edelman, D.Jackson, A.Thielen, C.Beasley, T.Williams, Z.Jones, D.Henderson, B.Perriman, J.Strong
TE: J.Witten, A.Shaheen, R.Gathers
PK: S.Gostkowski
Def: DEN, STL
Re: Dez or 1.01
I would do it for your squad, Fournette will be a real nice piece for you and your wrs are strong enough to lose Dez.
Team 1:
2QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3RWT 0PPR 8Teams
QBs: Brady, Wentz, Prescott, Trubisky
RBs: Gurley, Cook, Lindsay, Henry, Lewis, Hyde, Murray
WRs: Hill, Cooper, ARobinson, Sutton, Fitzgerald, TSmith(NO), Parker, Cain
TEs: Kelce, Burton, Engram
Def: Rams
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2020 Picks: 3, 3, 4
Team 2:
2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2WRT 1PPR 8TEAMS
QBs: Mahomes, Wentz, Lock, Carr, Mariota
WRs: MThomas, DAdams, ACooper, OBJ, Kupp, RAnderson, Renfro, Shepherd, Agholor, JMeyers
RBs: Mixon, Henry, Drake, JK Dobbins, Akers, Howard, McKinnon, Hyde, Pollard, DThompson
TEs: Waller, Engram, Graham, Eifert
K: Zeurlein
2020 Picks: 1.06 (JK Dobbins) acquired 1.09 OTC (Akers) 14 overall, 17 overall
2021 Picks: 2nd, 3rd
2QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3RWT 0PPR 8Teams
QBs: Brady, Wentz, Prescott, Trubisky
RBs: Gurley, Cook, Lindsay, Henry, Lewis, Hyde, Murray
WRs: Hill, Cooper, ARobinson, Sutton, Fitzgerald, TSmith(NO), Parker, Cain
TEs: Kelce, Burton, Engram
Def: Rams
K:
2019 Picks 3, 4
2020 Picks: 3, 3, 4
Team 2:
2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2WRT 1PPR 8TEAMS
QBs: Mahomes, Wentz, Lock, Carr, Mariota
WRs: MThomas, DAdams, ACooper, OBJ, Kupp, RAnderson, Renfro, Shepherd, Agholor, JMeyers
RBs: Mixon, Henry, Drake, JK Dobbins, Akers, Howard, McKinnon, Hyde, Pollard, DThompson
TEs: Waller, Engram, Graham, Eifert
K: Zeurlein
2020 Picks: 1.06 (JK Dobbins) acquired 1.09 OTC (Akers) 14 overall, 17 overall
2021 Picks: 2nd, 3rd
Re: Dez or 1.01
I'd rather trade Adams or Diggs for a slightly lesser valued RB then move Dez for a rookie.
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Re: Dez or 1.01
I will take the pick.
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Kupp/Jefferson/Chase/Lamb/Hopkins/MT/Watson/Dotson/
Kelce/Hurst
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QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/flex/SF
Mahomes/TLAW/Fields
N. Harris/J. Williams/Gibbs/CEH/A. Jones/Hubbard/Haskins/Ingram
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Re: Dez or 1.01
You need RBs, take the pick
10 Man IDP, .75 ppr, Big Play Bonus, TE Prem, 2 QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 2 TE, 2 DT, 2 DE, 3 LB, 4 DB, 34 Keepers (17 off - 17 IDP)
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Tannehill, Fitzmagic
RB: Jacobs, Javonte, Drake, Mack
WR: Thomas, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Golladay, Mooney, Kirk, Shepard, Parker
TE: Kittle, Ito Smith, Ebron, Bryant, Seals-Jones
DT: Simmons, Cox, Oliver, Vea
DL: Bosa, Hunter, Heyward, Greenard, Odeyingbo
LB: Watt, White, Cunningham, Kirksey
DB: Collins, Duggar, J Reid, Clark, Edmunds
12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Tua, Jameis, Cam, Taysom
RB: Taylor, Javonte, CEH
WR: Jefferson, Nuk, Diontae, Juju, Shepard, Mooney, Robby Anderson
TE: Henry, Gesicki, Brevin, Cook
12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Russ, Matty Ice, Tannehill
RB: CMC, Dobbins, Sanders. Scott, Mack
WR: Nuk, Keenan, Mooney, Patrick, Collins, Dyami
TE: Andrews, Schultz, Brevin, Akins
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Tannehill, Fitzmagic
RB: Jacobs, Javonte, Drake, Mack
WR: Thomas, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Golladay, Mooney, Kirk, Shepard, Parker
TE: Kittle, Ito Smith, Ebron, Bryant, Seals-Jones
DT: Simmons, Cox, Oliver, Vea
DL: Bosa, Hunter, Heyward, Greenard, Odeyingbo
LB: Watt, White, Cunningham, Kirksey
DB: Collins, Duggar, J Reid, Clark, Edmunds
12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Tua, Jameis, Cam, Taysom
RB: Taylor, Javonte, CEH
WR: Jefferson, Nuk, Diontae, Juju, Shepard, Mooney, Robby Anderson
TE: Henry, Gesicki, Brevin, Cook
12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Russ, Matty Ice, Tannehill
RB: CMC, Dobbins, Sanders. Scott, Mack
WR: Nuk, Keenan, Mooney, Patrick, Collins, Dyami
TE: Andrews, Schultz, Brevin, Akins