For my team what's too much to pay for him.
I'm discussing a package that is built around Devonta Freeman. I have a chance to ship Dalvin Cook for a 2019 1st + Willie Snead/ Fitz to another owner which I'm far from sold on. That first would give me some ammo to help out, is Devonta + a 2019 1st + marginal comp too much? Having reservations about shipping Dalvin but if i can get AB out of it... this is non-PPR
What's too much for Antonio Brown?
What's too much for Antonio Brown?
Team 1:
2QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3RWT 0PPR 8Teams
QBs: Brady, Wentz, Prescott, Trubisky
RBs: Gurley, Cook, Lindsay, Henry, Lewis, Hyde, Murray
WRs: Hill, Cooper, ARobinson, Sutton, Fitzgerald, TSmith(NO), Parker, Cain
TEs: Kelce, Burton, Engram
Def: Rams
K:
2019 Picks 3, 4
2020 Picks: 3, 3, 4
Team 2:
2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2WRT 1PPR 8TEAMS
QBs: Mahomes, Wentz, Lock, Carr, Mariota
WRs: MThomas, DAdams, ACooper, OBJ, Kupp, RAnderson, Renfro, Shepherd, Agholor, JMeyers
RBs: Mixon, Henry, Drake, JK Dobbins, Akers, Howard, McKinnon, Hyde, Pollard, DThompson
TEs: Waller, Engram, Graham, Eifert
K: Zeurlein
2020 Picks: 1.06 (JK Dobbins) acquired 1.09 OTC (Akers) 14 overall, 17 overall
2021 Picks: 2nd, 3rd
2QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3RWT 0PPR 8Teams
QBs: Brady, Wentz, Prescott, Trubisky
RBs: Gurley, Cook, Lindsay, Henry, Lewis, Hyde, Murray
WRs: Hill, Cooper, ARobinson, Sutton, Fitzgerald, TSmith(NO), Parker, Cain
TEs: Kelce, Burton, Engram
Def: Rams
K:
2019 Picks 3, 4
2020 Picks: 3, 3, 4
Team 2:
2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2WRT 1PPR 8TEAMS
QBs: Mahomes, Wentz, Lock, Carr, Mariota
WRs: MThomas, DAdams, ACooper, OBJ, Kupp, RAnderson, Renfro, Shepherd, Agholor, JMeyers
RBs: Mixon, Henry, Drake, JK Dobbins, Akers, Howard, McKinnon, Hyde, Pollard, DThompson
TEs: Waller, Engram, Graham, Eifert
K: Zeurlein
2020 Picks: 1.06 (JK Dobbins) acquired 1.09 OTC (Akers) 14 overall, 17 overall
2021 Picks: 2nd, 3rd
Re: What's too much for Antonio Brown?
I don't think you are getting AB for that... Just my opinion.
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller
SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee
SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard
SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart
2020 2 1st & 2nd
Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller
SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee
SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard
SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart
2020 2 1st & 2nd
Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly
Re: What's too much for Antonio Brown?
Maybe I have Freeman valued higher than most, but if he signs a contract soon it mean's Coleman's days are numbered and replacement level RBS are much harder to come by than WRs. What would you say is fair comp then? Freeman + what?
Team 1:
2QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3RWT 0PPR 8Teams
QBs: Brady, Wentz, Prescott, Trubisky
RBs: Gurley, Cook, Lindsay, Henry, Lewis, Hyde, Murray
WRs: Hill, Cooper, ARobinson, Sutton, Fitzgerald, TSmith(NO), Parker, Cain
TEs: Kelce, Burton, Engram
Def: Rams
K:
2019 Picks 3, 4
2020 Picks: 3, 3, 4
Team 2:
2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2WRT 1PPR 8TEAMS
QBs: Mahomes, Wentz, Lock, Carr, Mariota
WRs: MThomas, DAdams, ACooper, OBJ, Kupp, RAnderson, Renfro, Shepherd, Agholor, JMeyers
RBs: Mixon, Henry, Drake, JK Dobbins, Akers, Howard, McKinnon, Hyde, Pollard, DThompson
TEs: Waller, Engram, Graham, Eifert
K: Zeurlein
2020 Picks: 1.06 (JK Dobbins) acquired 1.09 OTC (Akers) 14 overall, 17 overall
2021 Picks: 2nd, 3rd
2QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3RWT 0PPR 8Teams
QBs: Brady, Wentz, Prescott, Trubisky
RBs: Gurley, Cook, Lindsay, Henry, Lewis, Hyde, Murray
WRs: Hill, Cooper, ARobinson, Sutton, Fitzgerald, TSmith(NO), Parker, Cain
TEs: Kelce, Burton, Engram
Def: Rams
K:
2019 Picks 3, 4
2020 Picks: 3, 3, 4
Team 2:
2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2WRT 1PPR 8TEAMS
QBs: Mahomes, Wentz, Lock, Carr, Mariota
WRs: MThomas, DAdams, ACooper, OBJ, Kupp, RAnderson, Renfro, Shepherd, Agholor, JMeyers
RBs: Mixon, Henry, Drake, JK Dobbins, Akers, Howard, McKinnon, Hyde, Pollard, DThompson
TEs: Waller, Engram, Graham, Eifert
K: Zeurlein
2020 Picks: 1.06 (JK Dobbins) acquired 1.09 OTC (Akers) 14 overall, 17 overall
2021 Picks: 2nd, 3rd
Re: What's too much for Antonio Brown?
I don't like the dalvin trade for you, but I do like the AB trade that you proposed above (overall a win for you). Are you sure the owner would accept that deal for AB though? Wouldn't want to make the first trade and be stuck with it if the AB owner doesn't accept or changes his mind.
Re: What's too much for Antonio Brown?
First, nice team. I think that you are one more stud WR from multiple championships.
When I look at your RBs I think that you can afford to move Freeman (I think Gurley comes back big this year.) So maybe something like Freeman, Williams (too bad his stock has fallen lately), and '19 1st might get it done. But I think you may need to add one more piece to get him.
Possibly look at someone else other than Brown? I think Hopkins is a nice buy low right now that is going to bounce back...he could be had much cheaper.
When I look at your RBs I think that you can afford to move Freeman (I think Gurley comes back big this year.) So maybe something like Freeman, Williams (too bad his stock has fallen lately), and '19 1st might get it done. But I think you may need to add one more piece to get him.
Possibly look at someone else other than Brown? I think Hopkins is a nice buy low right now that is going to bounce back...he could be had much cheaper.
12 teams, 8 starters, 2QB, 1-4 WR, 1-4 RB, 1-4 TE, .5 PPR, 4 IR, 2 TS
QB: Big Ben, ASmith, JRosen, EManning, CHackenburg
RB: LMiller, AJones, CCarson, CClement, FGore, AAbdullah, MGillislee
WR: Julio, AJG, ACooper, KBenjamin, CKupp, ZJones, MGoodwin, ACalloway (TS), ESt. Brown (TS)
TE: GKittle, TKroft, NVannett, RGathers
2019: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
2020: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
QB: Big Ben, ASmith, JRosen, EManning, CHackenburg
RB: LMiller, AJones, CCarson, CClement, FGore, AAbdullah, MGillislee
WR: Julio, AJG, ACooper, KBenjamin, CKupp, ZJones, MGoodwin, ACalloway (TS), ESt. Brown (TS)
TE: GKittle, TKroft, NVannett, RGathers
2019: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
2020: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Re: What's too much for Antonio Brown?
I agree that I'd rather buy Hopkins than Brown but the same owner has em both (and OBJ gahhh) and is only entertaining moving Brown. thanks for the compliment, I hope you're right about Gurley I invested my hopes and dreams in him and he burned me last year.sgkuehl wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:38 am First, nice team. I think that you are one more stud WR from multiple championships.
When I look at your RBs I think that you can afford to move Freeman (I think Gurley comes back big this year.) So maybe something like Freeman, Williams (too bad his stock has fallen lately), and '19 1st might get it done. But I think you may need to add one more piece to get him.
Possibly look at someone else other than Brown? I think Hopkins is a nice buy low right now that is going to bounce back...he could be had much cheaper.
Team 1:
2QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3RWT 0PPR 8Teams
QBs: Brady, Wentz, Prescott, Trubisky
RBs: Gurley, Cook, Lindsay, Henry, Lewis, Hyde, Murray
WRs: Hill, Cooper, ARobinson, Sutton, Fitzgerald, TSmith(NO), Parker, Cain
TEs: Kelce, Burton, Engram
Def: Rams
K:
2019 Picks 3, 4
2020 Picks: 3, 3, 4
Team 2:
2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2WRT 1PPR 8TEAMS
QBs: Mahomes, Wentz, Lock, Carr, Mariota
WRs: MThomas, DAdams, ACooper, OBJ, Kupp, RAnderson, Renfro, Shepherd, Agholor, JMeyers
RBs: Mixon, Henry, Drake, JK Dobbins, Akers, Howard, McKinnon, Hyde, Pollard, DThompson
TEs: Waller, Engram, Graham, Eifert
K: Zeurlein
2020 Picks: 1.06 (JK Dobbins) acquired 1.09 OTC (Akers) 14 overall, 17 overall
2021 Picks: 2nd, 3rd
2QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3RWT 0PPR 8Teams
QBs: Brady, Wentz, Prescott, Trubisky
RBs: Gurley, Cook, Lindsay, Henry, Lewis, Hyde, Murray
WRs: Hill, Cooper, ARobinson, Sutton, Fitzgerald, TSmith(NO), Parker, Cain
TEs: Kelce, Burton, Engram
Def: Rams
K:
2019 Picks 3, 4
2020 Picks: 3, 3, 4
Team 2:
2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2WRT 1PPR 8TEAMS
QBs: Mahomes, Wentz, Lock, Carr, Mariota
WRs: MThomas, DAdams, ACooper, OBJ, Kupp, RAnderson, Renfro, Shepherd, Agholor, JMeyers
RBs: Mixon, Henry, Drake, JK Dobbins, Akers, Howard, McKinnon, Hyde, Pollard, DThompson
TEs: Waller, Engram, Graham, Eifert
K: Zeurlein
2020 Picks: 1.06 (JK Dobbins) acquired 1.09 OTC (Akers) 14 overall, 17 overall
2021 Picks: 2nd, 3rd
Re: What's too much for Antonio Brown?
Don't like the Cook trade either. Your offer for AB is pretty light.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, AD, Pearsall, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Moss, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Kmet, Jordan, Higbee
PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington
PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Caleb, Daniels, Cousins,
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez
St. Brown, MHJ, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Odunze, Doubs, Pearsall, Washington, Baker, Cowing, Thrash
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Schoonmaker, Hurst
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, AD, Pearsall, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Moss, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Kmet, Jordan, Higbee
PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington
PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Caleb, Daniels, Cousins,
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez
St. Brown, MHJ, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Odunze, Doubs, Pearsall, Washington, Baker, Cowing, Thrash
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Schoonmaker, Hurst
Re: What's too much for Antonio Brown?
Agree. I would try Freeman, Williams and a 1st as another poster mentioned. Or maybe swap in Doctson instead of Williams as he might have more perceived value right now with Williams' injury concerns.
10 team SF .5ppr-QB,2RB,3WR,TE,Flex,SF,Def (30 spots)
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds
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Re: What's too much for Antonio Brown?
Not a close offer for AB. AB is a league winner this yr, if you want him, you'd have to pay a premium.
A more appropriate initial offer is something like: Freeman, (Doctson or M-will), Bryant, and the 2019 1st
TBH tho, in a 8 team league, your squad is likely two or more pieces away from being a top contender, and you'd be better off trying to get somewhat lesser, and slightly younger assets than AB to fill those roles if you want to make a run. You'd have to sell off too many pieces that you need.
If this were my squad, I'd try and snag some underrated upside plays, to pair with Bryant, like: Alshon, KBenj, Watkins, Allen. They'll all be about half the price of AB, and then you can fill your starting spots with decent depth.
A more appropriate initial offer is something like: Freeman, (Doctson or M-will), Bryant, and the 2019 1st
TBH tho, in a 8 team league, your squad is likely two or more pieces away from being a top contender, and you'd be better off trying to get somewhat lesser, and slightly younger assets than AB to fill those roles if you want to make a run. You'd have to sell off too many pieces that you need.
If this were my squad, I'd try and snag some underrated upside plays, to pair with Bryant, like: Alshon, KBenj, Watkins, Allen. They'll all be about half the price of AB, and then you can fill your starting spots with decent depth.
Re: What's too much for Antonio Brown?
Do you really think AB is worth that much? This is not ppr so I'm giving up my top rb who has been RB1 and RB 6 in standard scoring the last 2 seasons plus 2 good players and a first? That's too steep for me in non ppr. I don't think I'm that far off from competing either if Gurley bounces back.Johnny Canuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:31 pm Not a close offer for AB. AB is a league winner this yr, if you want him, you'd have to pay a premium.
A more appropriate initial offer is something like: Freeman, (Doctson or M-will), Bryant, and the 2019 1st
TBH tho, in a 8 team league, your squad is likely two or more pieces away from being a top contender, and you'd be better off trying to get somewhat lesser, and slightly younger assets than AB to fill those roles if you want to make a run. You'd have to sell off too many pieces that you need.
If this were my squad, I'd try and snag some underrated upside plays, to pair with Bryant, like: Alshon, KBenj, Watkins, Allen. They'll all be about half the price of AB, and then you can fill your starting spots with decent depth.
Team 1:
2QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3RWT 0PPR 8Teams
QBs: Brady, Wentz, Prescott, Trubisky
RBs: Gurley, Cook, Lindsay, Henry, Lewis, Hyde, Murray
WRs: Hill, Cooper, ARobinson, Sutton, Fitzgerald, TSmith(NO), Parker, Cain
TEs: Kelce, Burton, Engram
Def: Rams
K:
2019 Picks 3, 4
2020 Picks: 3, 3, 4
Team 2:
2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2WRT 1PPR 8TEAMS
QBs: Mahomes, Wentz, Lock, Carr, Mariota
WRs: MThomas, DAdams, ACooper, OBJ, Kupp, RAnderson, Renfro, Shepherd, Agholor, JMeyers
RBs: Mixon, Henry, Drake, JK Dobbins, Akers, Howard, McKinnon, Hyde, Pollard, DThompson
TEs: Waller, Engram, Graham, Eifert
K: Zeurlein
2020 Picks: 1.06 (JK Dobbins) acquired 1.09 OTC (Akers) 14 overall, 17 overall
2021 Picks: 2nd, 3rd
2QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3RWT 0PPR 8Teams
QBs: Brady, Wentz, Prescott, Trubisky
RBs: Gurley, Cook, Lindsay, Henry, Lewis, Hyde, Murray
WRs: Hill, Cooper, ARobinson, Sutton, Fitzgerald, TSmith(NO), Parker, Cain
TEs: Kelce, Burton, Engram
Def: Rams
K:
2019 Picks 3, 4
2020 Picks: 3, 3, 4
Team 2:
2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2WRT 1PPR 8TEAMS
QBs: Mahomes, Wentz, Lock, Carr, Mariota
WRs: MThomas, DAdams, ACooper, OBJ, Kupp, RAnderson, Renfro, Shepherd, Agholor, JMeyers
RBs: Mixon, Henry, Drake, JK Dobbins, Akers, Howard, McKinnon, Hyde, Pollard, DThompson
TEs: Waller, Engram, Graham, Eifert
K: Zeurlein
2020 Picks: 1.06 (JK Dobbins) acquired 1.09 OTC (Akers) 14 overall, 17 overall
2021 Picks: 2nd, 3rd
Re: What's too much for Antonio Brown?
I agree with the others. Don't like the Cook trade at all for you, and think you're too light on your offer for AB. I like Freeman a lot, but I'd need two significant pieces with him to move Antonio Brown. AB has averaged 120 rec/1579 yds/11 tds over the last four seasons. He's an uber-stud.
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Re: What's too much for Antonio Brown?
I think Freeman and Cook would be a better offer than Freeman and some random 2019 1st.
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