Superflex Offer: Andrew Luck for Robbie Gould

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.

What should I do?

Offer Luck for Wentz and Cook
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15%
Pursue other trades without Luck included
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Hold off for now and see if my RB's emerge
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Superflex Offer: Andrew Luck for Robbie Gould

Postby jonf86 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:27 pm

Just kidding, but I'm thinking about offering Luck to help shore up my RBs. I'd only trade him if I also got a good/young QB in return. Haven't sent this out, but what about something like Luck for Wentz and Dalvin Cook? Is Cook valuable enough to bridge the gap? Not even sure the other team would go for it, but curious what you all think.

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RB: Bilal Powell, Derrick Henry, Thomas Rawls, Wendell Smallwood, Kyle Juszczyk
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WR: J.J. Smith-Schuster, R. Woods, L. Fitzgerald, J. Nelson, M. Gallup R. Switzer, B. Berrios, C. Batson, R. Higgins, J. Kearse
TE: G. Kittle, I. Thomas, J Doyle, W. Dissly, J. Leggett, J. Gresham, T. Conklin
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Re: Superflex Offer: Andrew Luck for Robbie Gould

Postby Generic Username » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:42 pm

I think that's hella light for Luck in a SF, by an early 1st or more; I have to imagine the value of a SF QB is inflated even more in a 14-team setting...I'd be looking to sell Powell and any of the TEs/WRs during season for max future asset value. I know depth is key in the larger leagues and your team just doesn't seem to have it outside of QB and TE, which is why I think with what you do have selling a few pieces could net you that depth starting next year

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Re: Superflex Offer: Andrew Luck for Robbie Gould

Postby skip » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:52 pm

I like Wentz but there is no way that is enough for Luck in any format.
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Re: Superflex Offer: Andrew Luck for Robbie Gould

Postby Goddard » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:44 pm

I'm a Cook fan and would give that and a future 1st on top for Luck.

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Re: Superflex Offer: Andrew Luck for Robbie Gould

Postby Mitchbs » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:02 pm

Yeah I really would hold onto Luck in SF
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(1QB/1RB/4 FLEX/1TE/1PK/1PN/2DE/3LB/2DB)
QB: Brees/Mariota
RB: Gordon/Crowell/White/Murray/Ajayi/I.Smith
WR: OBJ/Nuk/Cooper/Boyd/Lockett/MVS/Sanu/Sanders
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QB: Cousins/Keenum/Mahomes/Hundley
RB: Barkley/Cook/Henry/Gallman
WR: Evans/Cooper/A-Rob/Brown/Kirk/Hurns/Boyd
TE: Graham/Hooper/Higbee/Jonnu/Butt
DT: Short/Atkins
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Re: Superflex Offer: Andrew Luck for Robbie Gould

Postby goinyard24 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:03 pm

Luck is almost untouchable in a 14 team SF.
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Re: Superflex Offer: Andrew Luck for Robbie Gould

Postby jeffster » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:56 pm

I second Luck being essentially untouchable in a 14 team Superflex. And even if you were to entertain trading him, there would simply have to be a top young QB coming back. For example, Carr+ or Mariota+.

I really like what you did in the startup though. Having Luck and Dak as your starters, with Teddy and Brock as possible bye-week fillers and McCarron as an upside development stash is a great take, even in a 12 team Superflex. Obviously you lack any premium WRs or RBs, but I like the guys you did grab.

The only place where I think you might have overdone it is at TE; the 1.5ppr + the extra points per yard is nice. You've probably got four startable guys with TE1 upside in Kelce, Rudolph, Fiedorowicz and Hooper, but you can only start three tops, even if you wanted to (not sure how much the bonus will do to bring them on par with WR/RB). Maybe you can package two of them to a TE needy team for an RB2? Abdullah, CJA, Hyde, Crowell, Montgomery, DMart... that sort may all be in reach in this format.

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Re: Superflex Offer: Andrew Luck for Robbie Gould

Postby 0crush83 » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:59 am

You need a much better QB and/or RB coming back to you if you are trading Luck. Aim high with your offers, then after you decide on one, add more too it. Luck's value in a 14 team superflex like others have said should be damn near untouchable.
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QB- Ryan, Carr
RB- Bell, Hyde, Coleman, Gio, Breida, Thompson
WR- OBJ, AB, Nuk, M. Thomas, Parker, Treadwell, Godwin
TE- Kelce, Engram
D- Eagles, Rams
IR - DJ

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QB- Rodgers, Seimian, Bridgewater, McCown
RB- Bell, Freeman, Gordon, Ingram, Gore, Conner
WR- Julio, Nuk, KA, Landry, Hilton, Cooks, DT, Maclin, R. Matthews, Boyd
TE- Kelce, Rudolph, James, Everett, ASJ

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QB- Rodgers, Siemian
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Re: Superflex Offer: Andrew Luck for Robbie Gould

Postby 24FlavorsofFun » Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:08 am

I think people are WAY too high on Luck, dude hasn't produced big #'s in 2 seasons.

That being said, Wentz has never produced big #'s and Cooks has never played a down.

I'd need a 1st tacked on, or go hunting for something like a Marriotta +.

But again, I don't understand the unflinching love for Luck.
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Re: Superflex Offer: Andrew Luck for Robbie Gould

Postby The.Big.Spank » Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:23 am

goinyard24 wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:03 pm Luck is almost untouchable in a 14 team SF.
This.
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Re: Superflex Offer: Andrew Luck for Robbie Gould

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:33 am

The.Big.Spank wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:23 am
goinyard24 wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:03 pm Luck is almost untouchable in a 14 team SF.
This.
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Also who the heck is Mychal Rudolph? lol
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Re: Superflex Offer: Andrew Luck for Robbie Gould

Postby jonf86 » Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:57 am

Thanks for the feedback fellas. While I'm not sure I agree anyone is untouchable especially in a 14 team league where depth is a little more important, I certainly don't want to sell luck short. I'll hold off
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Re: Superflex Offer: Andrew Luck for Robbie Gould

Postby Goddard » Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:05 am

Take Gould, he's going to be a stud! 10-15 field goals per game.

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Re: Superflex Offer: Andrew Luck for Robbie Gould

Postby fantasydem » Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:52 am

24FlavorsofFun wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:08 am I think people are WAY too high on Luck, dude hasn't produced big #'s in 2 seasons.

That being said, Wentz has never produced big #'s and Cooks has never played a down.

I'd need a 1st tacked on, or go hunting for something like a Marriotta +.

But again, I don't understand the unflinching love for Luck.
We must be thinking of different Andrew Lucks bc the one I'm thinking of finished as QB4 (while missing one game) in my league last year and played a total of 7 games the year before due to injury so obviously wasn't going to have a good year. And not to mention putting up nearly 5,000 yards in 2015 to go with 40 TD passes.
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Re: Superflex Offer: Andrew Luck for Robbie Gould

Postby roseyknee » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:29 am

Like others have said, you should be getting a Winston/Mariota/Carr type back if you're moving Luck. Could even try for ARod+ a little piece based on age.


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