PPR, .25 PPC, TE premium 16 team league.. recieved an offer of Hyde & Tate for my Watkins. I declined bc Im not a big fan of Tate although it did have me thinking for a minute. What would need added to move Watkins, or is this a fair offer as is?
His team:
Rodgers, Newton, Hoyer
Gore, Hyde, Ingram
AB, Ginn, Marshall, Tate
Walker, Julius Thomas
How far off is Hyde & Tate for Watkins?
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How far off is Hyde & Tate for Watkins?
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1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 Sflex
QB: Herbert, Tua, Jones, Lock
RB: Barkley, Akers, Conner, Pollard
WR: Adams, Lamb, JJefferson, Godwin, Pittman, DPJ, Hardman
TE:Kelce, Cox
(24): 2, 3, 4
Team 2: 12 TM PPR Superflex, TE premium, .25 PPC
1 QB, 2 RB, 2WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 Sflex
QB: Wentz, Lance, Mond
RB: Montgomery, Mattison
WR: AJ Brown, Chase, JJefferson, Jeudy, Pascal, Hardman, Bourne
TE: Goedert, Howard
(22) 1.2, 1.5, 2.5, 3.1, 3.2, 3.5, 4.5
(23) 1, 2, 3, 4
Team 3: 12 TM PPR Superflex
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, 2 Flex, 1 Sflex
QB: Wentz, Rodgers, Foles, Brissett
RB:
WR: Deebo, Evans, Hopkins, Adams, Mooney
TE:
(24) 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 Sflex
QB: Herbert, Tua, Jones, Lock
RB: Barkley, Akers, Conner, Pollard
WR: Adams, Lamb, JJefferson, Godwin, Pittman, DPJ, Hardman
TE:Kelce, Cox
(24): 2, 3, 4
Team 2: 12 TM PPR Superflex, TE premium, .25 PPC
1 QB, 2 RB, 2WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 Sflex
QB: Wentz, Lance, Mond
RB: Montgomery, Mattison
WR: AJ Brown, Chase, JJefferson, Jeudy, Pascal, Hardman, Bourne
TE: Goedert, Howard
(22) 1.2, 1.5, 2.5, 3.1, 3.2, 3.5, 4.5
(23) 1, 2, 3, 4
Team 3: 12 TM PPR Superflex
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, 2 Flex, 1 Sflex
QB: Wentz, Rodgers, Foles, Brissett
RB:
WR: Deebo, Evans, Hopkins, Adams, Mooney
TE:
(24) 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4
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Re: How far off is Hyde & Tate for Watkins?
Imo there's nothing that can be added to get that deal done. I wouldn't give up Watkins for those 2 players
10 Man IDP, .75 ppr, Big Play Bonus, TE Prem, 2 QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 2 TE, 2 DT, 2 DE, 3 LB, 4 DB, 34 Keepers (17 off - 17 IDP)
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Tannehill, Fitzmagic
RB: Jacobs, Javonte, Drake, Mack
WR: Thomas, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Golladay, Mooney, Kirk, Shepard, Parker
TE: Kittle, Ito Smith, Ebron, Bryant, Seals-Jones
DT: Simmons, Cox, Oliver, Vea
DL: Bosa, Hunter, Heyward, Greenard, Odeyingbo
LB: Watt, White, Cunningham, Kirksey
DB: Collins, Duggar, J Reid, Clark, Edmunds
12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Tua, Jameis, Cam, Taysom
RB: Taylor, Javonte, CEH
WR: Jefferson, Nuk, Diontae, Juju, Shepard, Mooney, Robby Anderson
TE: Henry, Gesicki, Brevin, Cook
12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Russ, Matty Ice, Tannehill
RB: CMC, Dobbins, Sanders. Scott, Mack
WR: Nuk, Keenan, Mooney, Patrick, Collins, Dyami
TE: Andrews, Schultz, Brevin, Akins
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Tannehill, Fitzmagic
RB: Jacobs, Javonte, Drake, Mack
WR: Thomas, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Golladay, Mooney, Kirk, Shepard, Parker
TE: Kittle, Ito Smith, Ebron, Bryant, Seals-Jones
DT: Simmons, Cox, Oliver, Vea
DL: Bosa, Hunter, Heyward, Greenard, Odeyingbo
LB: Watt, White, Cunningham, Kirksey
DB: Collins, Duggar, J Reid, Clark, Edmunds
12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Tua, Jameis, Cam, Taysom
RB: Taylor, Javonte, CEH
WR: Jefferson, Nuk, Diontae, Juju, Shepard, Mooney, Robby Anderson
TE: Henry, Gesicki, Brevin, Cook
12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Russ, Matty Ice, Tannehill
RB: CMC, Dobbins, Sanders. Scott, Mack
WR: Nuk, Keenan, Mooney, Patrick, Collins, Dyami
TE: Andrews, Schultz, Brevin, Akins
Re: How far off is Hyde & Tate for Watkins?
I don't think it's terribly far off given actual production versus potential production. Tate has been good in Detroit, and he's still clearly the number 1 there. For me it comes down to how you feel about Hyde. If you think he's going to be solid in Shanahan's system, I think it's closer. If I was the Sammy owner, I'd see if I could get another piece or a pick, but I don't think it's super far off.
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Re: How far off is Hyde & Tate for Watkins?
Pass
Even if Watkins gets injured, again, this season, he will likely pull in more value when he signs with a better QB situation for 2018-19.
Even if Watkins gets injured, again, this season, he will likely pull in more value when he signs with a better QB situation for 2018-19.
10 team PPR league, 24 man rosters, 5 man taxi, 5 man IR
QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Anthony Richardson, Tua Tagovailoa, Sam Howell, Trey Lance, Hendon Hooker (IR)
RB: Saquon Barkley, Rhamondre Stevenson, Khalil Herbert, Antonio Gibson, Gus Edwards, Jerome Ford, Kendre Miller (TX), Roschon Johnson (TX), Pierre Strong (TX), Tyson Chandler (TX)
WR: Garrett Wilson, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, DJ Moore, Diontae Johnson, Chris Godwin, Terry McLaurin, Kadarius Toney, Jayden Reed, John Metchie, Justyn Ross,
TE: George Kittle, T.J. Hockenson, Chigoziem Okonkwo, Sam LaPorta (TX), Isaiah Likely, Luke Schoonmaker (IR)
Draft Picks
2024: 1st
2025: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Finishes:
2017 - Last
2018 - 2nd
2019 - CHAMPION
2020 - 7th
2021 - 2nd
2022 - CHAMPION
2023 - TBD
QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Anthony Richardson, Tua Tagovailoa, Sam Howell, Trey Lance, Hendon Hooker (IR)
RB: Saquon Barkley, Rhamondre Stevenson, Khalil Herbert, Antonio Gibson, Gus Edwards, Jerome Ford, Kendre Miller (TX), Roschon Johnson (TX), Pierre Strong (TX), Tyson Chandler (TX)
WR: Garrett Wilson, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, DJ Moore, Diontae Johnson, Chris Godwin, Terry McLaurin, Kadarius Toney, Jayden Reed, John Metchie, Justyn Ross,
TE: George Kittle, T.J. Hockenson, Chigoziem Okonkwo, Sam LaPorta (TX), Isaiah Likely, Luke Schoonmaker (IR)
Draft Picks
2024: 1st
2025: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
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2018 - 2nd
2019 - CHAMPION
2020 - 7th
2021 - 2nd
2022 - CHAMPION
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Re: How far off is Hyde & Tate for Watkins?
Watkins for me
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Re: How far off is Hyde & Tate for Watkins?
I wouldn't pay Hyde and Tate for Watkins... no bloody way.
Tate's production for the next 2-3 years will at "worst" equal Watkins..." if he's healthy". And that's a big if. Classic case of overvaluing the sexy name.
Tate's production for the next 2-3 years will at "worst" equal Watkins..." if he's healthy". And that's a big if. Classic case of overvaluing the sexy name.
Re: How far off is Hyde & Tate for Watkins?
I think it's a pretty fair offer, especially in a 16 team league.
Re: How far off is Hyde & Tate for Watkins?
Hyde is a chronically injured player. He scares me the most out of any player for injury potential. Hasn't been able to put a healthy year together yet. I don't think he can.
Tate is a solid guy but boring. He's also getting up there in age. If you could get a 2nd round pick, it'd be closer. But, Sammy still has top 10 WR potential. People are hating on him too much in my opinion.
Tate is a solid guy but boring. He's also getting up there in age. If you could get a 2nd round pick, it'd be closer. But, Sammy still has top 10 WR potential. People are hating on him too much in my opinion.
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Re: How far off is Hyde & Tate for Watkins?
Instant accept for me. Admittedly not high on Watkins unless he leaves the bills.
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QB: Luck, Osweier, Bradford, Kap
RB: D. Johnson, Hyde, Hill, Mathews, M. Jones, Crowell, McKinnon
WR: Evans, Allen, Matthews, Shepard, Fuller, Smelter, Sanu, White, Wright, Perriman, DGB, Agholor, (M. Bryant)
TE: Gronk, ASJ, Allen, Walford
2017 picks: 2 1st, 1 2nd
QB: Luck, Osweier, Bradford, Kap
RB: D. Johnson, Hyde, Hill, Mathews, M. Jones, Crowell, McKinnon
WR: Evans, Allen, Matthews, Shepard, Fuller, Smelter, Sanu, White, Wright, Perriman, DGB, Agholor, (M. Bryant)
TE: Gronk, ASJ, Allen, Walford
2017 picks: 2 1st, 1 2nd
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Re: How far off is Hyde & Tate for Watkins?
Easy pass. If Watkins' foot is truly all healed up (a la Julio & Dez after a couple of years) I think he's in for a monster year.
Team 1
12-team, 0.5 PPR, SuperFlex, TE Premium (+0.5 PPR) | 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 3FLEX, 1SF
QB: Hurts, Herbert, Cousins, Purdy
RB: Taylor, Barkley, Swift, Mixon, N.Harris, Hunt, Dobbins
WR: Jefferson, Adams, Metcalf, Godwin, Ridley, Lockett, Cooks
TE: Kittle, Njoku, Gesicki
Team 2
12-team, PPR | 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX
QB: Wilson, Jones
RB: Robinson, Gibbs, Mixon, Sanders, R. White
WR: Lamb, Godwin, Lockett, Addison, D. Johnson, Meyers, Campbell, R. Moore
TE: Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant
12-team, 0.5 PPR, SuperFlex, TE Premium (+0.5 PPR) | 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 3FLEX, 1SF
QB: Hurts, Herbert, Cousins, Purdy
RB: Taylor, Barkley, Swift, Mixon, N.Harris, Hunt, Dobbins
WR: Jefferson, Adams, Metcalf, Godwin, Ridley, Lockett, Cooks
TE: Kittle, Njoku, Gesicki
Team 2
12-team, PPR | 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX
QB: Wilson, Jones
RB: Robinson, Gibbs, Mixon, Sanders, R. White
WR: Lamb, Godwin, Lockett, Addison, D. Johnson, Meyers, Campbell, R. Moore
TE: Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant
Re: How far off is Hyde & Tate for Watkins?
Completely agree. Too many times we get stuck on a player because of college hype, draft spot, etc.sharkattack wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:35 pm I wouldn't pay Hyde and Tate for Watkins... no bloody way.
Tate's production for the next 2-3 years will at "worst" equal Watkins..." if he's healthy". And that's a big if. Classic case of overvaluing the sexy name.
In a PPR league that's the MOST I give for Watkins!
22-man, 12-team, 1 pt-PPR; Start 1-2RB; 3-4 WR; 1-2 TE
TEAM 1
QB: Prescott, Foles
RB: Barkley, P Barber, Duke, Gio Bernard, Gus, C Thompson, Breida, Ekeler
WR: A Cooper, Cooks, Lockett, C. Davis, Crowder, Chark, Stills
TE: OJ Howard
TEAM 1
QB: Prescott, Foles
RB: Barkley, P Barber, Duke, Gio Bernard, Gus, C Thompson, Breida, Ekeler
WR: A Cooper, Cooks, Lockett, C. Davis, Crowder, Chark, Stills
TE: OJ Howard
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