12team • Standard League
THIS WILL BE MY LAST HOWARD QUESTION! Please note its a standard league. Any standard league owners please help me.
Give 1.3 + K. Allen + 4.03 for Howard + 18 2nd + 3.03
Please look at my team below and let me know what helps my team the most to win a championship this yr+
I feel like another solid 3 down RB would put my team in an even better spot to win it all this year.
Losing Allen sucks, but I have Watkins and ARob to back him up when he is gone.
I feel the 1.3 (Mixon) is even with Howard. Mixon's upside is higher probably, but his floor this year is much lower.
I can afford to lose Allen if this improves my roster. I understand Im selling low on Allen.
Thoughts?
Howard + 18 2nd + 3.03 for 1.3 + K. Allen + 4.03
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Howard + 18 2nd + 3.03 for 1.3 + K. Allen + 4.03
12 team • .5 PPR • IDP • 2QB-2RB-2WR-1TE-4FLEX-3DL-3LB-3DB
QB- Newton, Mayfield, Darnold, Finley
RB- Barkley, Gurley, Zeke, Kamara, DHarris, RSmith, Boone, Weber, DarJackson, Ollison, Barnes, Ozigbo
WR- Nuk, Evans, Thomas, Allen, Adams, Hurns, Jennings
TE- Engram, Herndon, Fant, Watson, Warring, JThomas
K- Gostkowski, Zuerlein
DL- Mack, Flowers, Clowney, DLaw, Hurst, Landry, Hubbard
LB- Kuech, Wagner, Edmunds, Bush, Wright
DB- Collins, JJohnson, SWilliams, Burnett
2020: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th
12, 15, 17 Champions
QB- Newton, Mayfield, Darnold, Finley
RB- Barkley, Gurley, Zeke, Kamara, DHarris, RSmith, Boone, Weber, DarJackson, Ollison, Barnes, Ozigbo
WR- Nuk, Evans, Thomas, Allen, Adams, Hurns, Jennings
TE- Engram, Herndon, Fant, Watson, Warring, JThomas
K- Gostkowski, Zuerlein
DL- Mack, Flowers, Clowney, DLaw, Hurst, Landry, Hubbard
LB- Kuech, Wagner, Edmunds, Bush, Wright
DB- Collins, JJohnson, SWilliams, Burnett
2020: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th
12, 15, 17 Champions
Re: Howard + 18 2nd + 3.03 for 1.3 + K. Allen + 4.03
If you think the 1.03 is even with Howard, why would you give away Allen for a 2nd and 3rd? I don't really like this deal that much.
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Re: Howard + 18 2nd + 3.03 for 1.3 + K. Allen + 4.03
I think the win now value of Howard is higher. Allen is expendable to me and in our league Wrs are undervalued.
I would be hard pressed to get a 1st rnd for Allen in our league.
I understand it doesn't make sense value wise piece vs piece but I'm trying to win this yr. Allen will barely crack my starting lineup.
I feel Howard would start every week in my flex spot over Ingram and Allen
I would be hard pressed to get a 1st rnd for Allen in our league.
I understand it doesn't make sense value wise piece vs piece but I'm trying to win this yr. Allen will barely crack my starting lineup.
I feel Howard would start every week in my flex spot over Ingram and Allen
12 team • .5 PPR • IDP • 2QB-2RB-2WR-1TE-4FLEX-3DL-3LB-3DB
QB- Newton, Mayfield, Darnold, Finley
RB- Barkley, Gurley, Zeke, Kamara, DHarris, RSmith, Boone, Weber, DarJackson, Ollison, Barnes, Ozigbo
WR- Nuk, Evans, Thomas, Allen, Adams, Hurns, Jennings
TE- Engram, Herndon, Fant, Watson, Warring, JThomas
K- Gostkowski, Zuerlein
DL- Mack, Flowers, Clowney, DLaw, Hurst, Landry, Hubbard
LB- Kuech, Wagner, Edmunds, Bush, Wright
DB- Collins, JJohnson, SWilliams, Burnett
2020: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th
12, 15, 17 Champions
QB- Newton, Mayfield, Darnold, Finley
RB- Barkley, Gurley, Zeke, Kamara, DHarris, RSmith, Boone, Weber, DarJackson, Ollison, Barnes, Ozigbo
WR- Nuk, Evans, Thomas, Allen, Adams, Hurns, Jennings
TE- Engram, Herndon, Fant, Watson, Warring, JThomas
K- Gostkowski, Zuerlein
DL- Mack, Flowers, Clowney, DLaw, Hurst, Landry, Hubbard
LB- Kuech, Wagner, Edmunds, Bush, Wright
DB- Collins, JJohnson, SWilliams, Burnett
2020: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th
12, 15, 17 Champions
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Re: Howard + 18 2nd + 3.03 for 1.3 + K. Allen + 4.03
Just because WRs are "undervalued" doesn't mean you sell low on them all! Your team has a lot of question marks. Who's to say you don't need Allen this year. What if Watkins is hurt again, what if Miller or Ingram loose their job. You go from moving Allen and Mixon(1.3) for Howard that's 2 very good key depth pieces for one. I see it now as Allen is in your starting line up over Ingram Miller and Watkins. No way would I make that deal. Who's to say Howard doesn't regress? Keep what you have. Don't make a bad trade just because no one will give you what you should be gettingevanhp wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2017 5:56 am I think the win now value of Howard is higher. Allen is expendable to me and in our league Wrs are undervalued.
I would be hard pressed to get a 1st rnd for Allen in our league.
I understand it doesn't make sense value wise piece vs piece but I'm trying to win this yr. Allen will barely crack my starting lineup.
I feel Howard would start every week in my flex spot over Ingram and Allen
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Re: Howard + 18 2nd + 3.03 for 1.3 + K. Allen + 4.03
Yea in standard league though, I don't see Allen over Miller and maybe even with Ingram.
Thanks, you make good points. I just like to have the most scoring in each spot that I can.
I probably won't do it.
Thanks, you make good points. I just like to have the most scoring in each spot that I can.
I probably won't do it.
12 team • .5 PPR • IDP • 2QB-2RB-2WR-1TE-4FLEX-3DL-3LB-3DB
QB- Newton, Mayfield, Darnold, Finley
RB- Barkley, Gurley, Zeke, Kamara, DHarris, RSmith, Boone, Weber, DarJackson, Ollison, Barnes, Ozigbo
WR- Nuk, Evans, Thomas, Allen, Adams, Hurns, Jennings
TE- Engram, Herndon, Fant, Watson, Warring, JThomas
K- Gostkowski, Zuerlein
DL- Mack, Flowers, Clowney, DLaw, Hurst, Landry, Hubbard
LB- Kuech, Wagner, Edmunds, Bush, Wright
DB- Collins, JJohnson, SWilliams, Burnett
2020: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th
12, 15, 17 Champions
QB- Newton, Mayfield, Darnold, Finley
RB- Barkley, Gurley, Zeke, Kamara, DHarris, RSmith, Boone, Weber, DarJackson, Ollison, Barnes, Ozigbo
WR- Nuk, Evans, Thomas, Allen, Adams, Hurns, Jennings
TE- Engram, Herndon, Fant, Watson, Warring, JThomas
K- Gostkowski, Zuerlein
DL- Mack, Flowers, Clowney, DLaw, Hurst, Landry, Hubbard
LB- Kuech, Wagner, Edmunds, Bush, Wright
DB- Collins, JJohnson, SWilliams, Burnett
2020: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th
12, 15, 17 Champions
Re: Howard + 18 2nd + 3.03 for 1.3 + K. Allen + 4.03
I'm in a similar situation and pretty much decided not to overpay for RB or undersell my WR-at least in the offseason- may make a little more sense in season as the dust settles- think I'm better off long term keep the value in WR
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RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
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DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
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DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
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Re: Howard + 18 2nd + 3.03 for 1.3 + K. Allen + 4.03
His latest offer is 1.3 + Allen + 4.05 + 4.06 for Howard + 18 2nd (mid) + 3.03 + 3.09
12 team • .5 PPR • IDP • 2QB-2RB-2WR-1TE-4FLEX-3DL-3LB-3DB
QB- Newton, Mayfield, Darnold, Finley
RB- Barkley, Gurley, Zeke, Kamara, DHarris, RSmith, Boone, Weber, DarJackson, Ollison, Barnes, Ozigbo
WR- Nuk, Evans, Thomas, Allen, Adams, Hurns, Jennings
TE- Engram, Herndon, Fant, Watson, Warring, JThomas
K- Gostkowski, Zuerlein
DL- Mack, Flowers, Clowney, DLaw, Hurst, Landry, Hubbard
LB- Kuech, Wagner, Edmunds, Bush, Wright
DB- Collins, JJohnson, SWilliams, Burnett
2020: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th
12, 15, 17 Champions
QB- Newton, Mayfield, Darnold, Finley
RB- Barkley, Gurley, Zeke, Kamara, DHarris, RSmith, Boone, Weber, DarJackson, Ollison, Barnes, Ozigbo
WR- Nuk, Evans, Thomas, Allen, Adams, Hurns, Jennings
TE- Engram, Herndon, Fant, Watson, Warring, JThomas
K- Gostkowski, Zuerlein
DL- Mack, Flowers, Clowney, DLaw, Hurst, Landry, Hubbard
LB- Kuech, Wagner, Edmunds, Bush, Wright
DB- Collins, JJohnson, SWilliams, Burnett
2020: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th
12, 15, 17 Champions
Re: Howard + 18 2nd + 3.03 for 1.3 + K. Allen + 4.03
Still seems really light.
1.3+a late pick=Howard
Don't just give Allen away as others have said. The season is a long way away so dont rush it. There are many other backs in just as good of situations that are cheaper. Crowell for instants should cost less than the 1.03 by a long shot.
For win now production I would put them on dead even on possibility.
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Re: Howard + 18 2nd + 3.03 for 1.3 + K. Allen + 4.03
Seems like if that 2018 2nd doesn't shift to a 1st, this isn't close.
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Re: Howard + 18 2nd + 3.03 for 1.3 + K. Allen + 4.03
^^This right here. Totally agree.^^
The only way this makes sense at all is if you are in total win now mode and Howard was a sure thing. He's far from a sure thing.
Only way I consider this is if you remove Allen and the 2nd round pick from the deal.
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