Just Sold Zeke..

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Elliott, 2018 3rd, 2019 4th, 2020 1st
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JHoward, Kevin White, (2) 2018 1sts
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Total votes: 63

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Just Sold Zeke..

Postby colonnaj94 » Mon May 15, 2017 8:03 pm

Hey guys, I just made a trade. I was wondering how i did?

I Gave
Ezekiel Elliott
2020 1st
2018 3rd
2019 4th

I Got
Jordan Howard
Kevin White
2018 1st (Projected Early-Mid) - This pick is the current owner of 1.01
2018 1st (Projected Mid-Late)
32 Team .5 PPR, 2 Copies
QB Lawrence, Ridder
RB Bijan Robinson, Walker, Javonte Williams, Dillon
WR Pickens, Dell, Doubs, Reed, Mims
TE Freiermuth

12 Team PPR
QB Ridder, Young
RB Mixon, Pierce, Najee Harris, Kelley
WR Rice, Toney, Z Jones, Marshall, Campbell, Pierce, Hardman, Perry, Wicks
TE Freiermuth, Gray, McBride, Likely
(2) 24 1sts, (4) 24 2nds, (2) 25 1sts, (2) 25 2nds

12 Team PPR SF TE Premium IDP
QB Tagovailoa, Burrow
RB Chubb, Ford, Warren, Pierce, Javonte Williams, N Harris
WR Allen, Samuel, Pittman, Ridley, Rice, Metcalf
TE Goedert, Bryant, Hill
DL Watt, Sieler, Jones, P Smith, Simmons, Lawrence, Z Smith
LB Morrow, Deablow, To'oTo'o
DB Holland, Winfield, Wallace, Bell

12 Team PPR SF TE Premium IDP
QB Mahomes, Tannehill
RB Mostert, Pacheco, Montogmery, Pierce, Ford, Warren, Javonte Williams
WR Chase, Allen, Sutton, Pittman, Doubs
TE Kelce, Hurst, Dulcich
DL Hunter, Cooper, Allen, Autry, Carter, Young
LB Franklin, Oluokun, Singleton
DB Smith, Curl, Love, Byard, McKinney

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby jwint7910 » Mon May 15, 2017 8:12 pm

I took Howard and the 18 firsts, but it felt dirty. I would feel like I need one of Barkley or Guice to feel good about it. I would trade White after if I could find another taker.
Dynasty League: Est. 2012 2018 CHAMPION
10 Team PPR, All tds 6 points, 27 roster
Start: 1-QB, 2-4RB, 2-4WR, 1-3TE, 1-K, 1-DEF

QB BigBen, Dak
RB Barkley, Cook, Mixon, Chubb, D Williams, R Anderson, B Anderson
WR Nuk, AB, M Thomas, Cooper, M Williams, Godwin, Gallup, McLaurin, Cain, D Moore
TE Engram, Njoku, Knox
K Zuerlein
DEF Vikings, Chargers

2020:2,2,2,2,3,3-5
2021:1,2,2,5

Dynasty League: Est. 2017
12 Team PPR Superflex, 1/4 point per carry, TE bonus, All tds 6 points, 25 roster
Start: 1-2QB, 2-4RB, 3-5WR, 1-2TE, 1-K, 1-DEF

QB Rodgers, Watson, Luck, Murray
RB Mixon, Gordon, Chubb, Guice, Harris
WR JuJu, Cooks, Golladay, C Davis, Godwin, Fuller, Miller, Washington, Metcalf, AJ Brown, Quinn, C Moore
TE Engram, OJ Howard
K Zuerlein
DEF Denver

2019: 3.10,4.05
2020: 1,1,1,1,2,2,4-5
2021: 1-5

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby colonnaj94 » Mon May 15, 2017 8:20 pm

jwint7910 wrote: Mon May 15, 2017 8:12 pm I took Howard and the 18 firsts, but it felt dirty. I would feel like I need one of Barkley or Guice to feel good about it. I would trade White after if I could find another taker.
I felt that way too as a Cowboys fan. I just felt like the value was too good to pass up. Hopefully White can start the season strong and I have a nice WR2 on my hands..
32 Team .5 PPR, 2 Copies
QB Lawrence, Ridder
RB Bijan Robinson, Walker, Javonte Williams, Dillon
WR Pickens, Dell, Doubs, Reed, Mims
TE Freiermuth

12 Team PPR
QB Ridder, Young
RB Mixon, Pierce, Najee Harris, Kelley
WR Rice, Toney, Z Jones, Marshall, Campbell, Pierce, Hardman, Perry, Wicks
TE Freiermuth, Gray, McBride, Likely
(2) 24 1sts, (4) 24 2nds, (2) 25 1sts, (2) 25 2nds

12 Team PPR SF TE Premium IDP
QB Tagovailoa, Burrow
RB Chubb, Ford, Warren, Pierce, Javonte Williams, N Harris
WR Allen, Samuel, Pittman, Ridley, Rice, Metcalf
TE Goedert, Bryant, Hill
DL Watt, Sieler, Jones, P Smith, Simmons, Lawrence, Z Smith
LB Morrow, Deablow, To'oTo'o
DB Holland, Winfield, Wallace, Bell

12 Team PPR SF TE Premium IDP
QB Mahomes, Tannehill
RB Mostert, Pacheco, Montogmery, Pierce, Ford, Warren, Javonte Williams
WR Chase, Allen, Sutton, Pittman, Doubs
TE Kelce, Hurst, Dulcich
DL Hunter, Cooper, Allen, Autry, Carter, Young
LB Franklin, Oluokun, Singleton
DB Smith, Curl, Love, Byard, McKinney

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby Dr. Trades » Mon May 15, 2017 8:33 pm

I'm sorry, but there's almost no way I would have given up Zeke. Don't get me wrong, I like Howard, as I have him on other teams. But as much as I like him, his situation got a bit murkier this year with Alshon moving on and new QB in town, and I suspect defenses start loading the box against the former 5th rounder with an average O-line. Zeke is literally a true generational talent, working in a high octane offense with arguably the best O-line in town. To me, the trade boils down to Zeke for Howard plus two future firsts (White has done next to nothing so far). I've seen other threads where AB is valued at at least 3 future firsts and he's going to be 29 to start this season. For Zeke, he's almost priceless at this point in dynasty and I wouldn't be moving him for anything less than 3-4+ 1st rounders and other big name players included. Sorry bud, but I think you lost that trade.
League 1: 12 Team League (0.5 ppr WR/RB, 0.75 TE)
QB: Dak, Rodgers, Jimmy G
RB: Henry, Mixon, Swift, AJ Dillon, Jamaal Williams, TDP, Zamir White, Dontrell Hilliard, Hassan Haskins, Joshua Kelley, Chris Evans, Jaylen Warren
WR: JJefferson, AJ Brown, Deebo, DJ Moore, Keenan Allan, Russell Gage, George Pickens, Isaiah McKenzie, Westbrook-Ikhine
TE: Dalton Schultz, Logan Thomas, Daniel Bellinger
D/St: 49ers, Cowboys

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QB: Rodgers, Stafford, T. Lawrence
RB: javonte, ETN, Eli Mitchell, AJ Dillon, Michael Carter, TDP, Marlon Mack, Jaylen Warren, Darrel Williams, Kene Nguwanu, Trey Sermon
WR: J. Chase, Tee Higgins, Mike Williams, KJ Hamler, Calvin Austin 3, Danny Gray, Erik Ezukanma
TE: Schultz, Fant, Evan Engram, Jelani Woods, Noah Gray, Durham Smythe, Josiah Deguara, Brycen Hopkins

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby Kramer » Mon May 15, 2017 8:44 pm

Zeke still for me. Picks are hard to project. If you're wrong on the projection or if Howard is a one year wonder, then you're set back for years. Even in a rebuild I wouldn't have done this. Hopefully it works out for you, but you definitely lost a lot of value.
10 team SF .5ppr-QB,2RB,3WR,TE,Flex,SF,Def (30 spots)
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Mon May 15, 2017 8:47 pm

I'd have kept Zeke but only by a little. I'm not sold on Howard or White so that's why I lean Zeke. I don't know that Zeke is a such a generational talent though. Just a really good RB. Put Gurley, Jordan Howard, D Freeman, Melvin Gordon behind that line and I think you will see similar stats. But situation does count for RB's and that situation is awfully nice.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby Goddard » Mon May 15, 2017 9:08 pm

I think you sold very, very low.

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby Alex116 » Mon May 15, 2017 9:19 pm

I think you lost this one. Zeke, and his situation, are both really good. Together, they're worth more than what you got.

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby colonnaj94 » Mon May 15, 2017 9:33 pm

Thanks for the responses.
I got a few outside opinions before taking the deal and they all said that it was worth doing. Interesting to see thats not the case here. Oh well. Can't win them all.

My goal was to turn Howard plus a 2nd or something else into one of Melvin Gordon, Todd Gurley or Devonta Freeman if possible.
32 Team .5 PPR, 2 Copies
QB Lawrence, Ridder
RB Bijan Robinson, Walker, Javonte Williams, Dillon
WR Pickens, Dell, Doubs, Reed, Mims
TE Freiermuth

12 Team PPR
QB Ridder, Young
RB Mixon, Pierce, Najee Harris, Kelley
WR Rice, Toney, Z Jones, Marshall, Campbell, Pierce, Hardman, Perry, Wicks
TE Freiermuth, Gray, McBride, Likely
(2) 24 1sts, (4) 24 2nds, (2) 25 1sts, (2) 25 2nds

12 Team PPR SF TE Premium IDP
QB Tagovailoa, Burrow
RB Chubb, Ford, Warren, Pierce, Javonte Williams, N Harris
WR Allen, Samuel, Pittman, Ridley, Rice, Metcalf
TE Goedert, Bryant, Hill
DL Watt, Sieler, Jones, P Smith, Simmons, Lawrence, Z Smith
LB Morrow, Deablow, To'oTo'o
DB Holland, Winfield, Wallace, Bell

12 Team PPR SF TE Premium IDP
QB Mahomes, Tannehill
RB Mostert, Pacheco, Montogmery, Pierce, Ford, Warren, Javonte Williams
WR Chase, Allen, Sutton, Pittman, Doubs
TE Kelce, Hurst, Dulcich
DL Hunter, Cooper, Allen, Autry, Carter, Young
LB Franklin, Oluokun, Singleton
DB Smith, Curl, Love, Byard, McKinney

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby hesexpress » Mon May 15, 2017 9:37 pm

Yeah... just can't get behind your thought process on this one.

Not a fan.

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby pierson242 » Tue May 16, 2017 2:39 am

Not good, not good at all! You should've gotten WAY more than this!
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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby cforsberg123 » Tue May 16, 2017 5:36 am

I don't want to beat a dead horse but I will. The only way I move Zeke is if I'm desperate at receiver and trade him straight up for Odell or Evans. That's about what it would take for me, otherwise I'd need Bell and a high-mid 1st. You've gotta have some greed with these assets, they only have their value for a couple years. When you cash them in you have to cash them in big. I've made plenty of bad deals, trust me, but you live and you learn. This was probably one of those bad ones.
10 team dynasty league. Standard scoring w/.5 ppr. Start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1FLEX, 1TE, 5 IDP

QB- Stafford, Cousins, Z. Wilson
RB- Zeke, Barkley, Singletary, Carson, Pollard
WR- Kupp, DJ Moore, Higgins, JuJu, R. Moore
TE- Kittle, Fant, Irv Smith
IDP-
DL- N. Bosa, Chase Young
LB- T.J. Watt, E. Kendricks, K. White, J. Davis
DB- Byard, X. Howard

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby IR1 » Tue May 16, 2017 5:39 am

Zeke easy for me
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue May 16, 2017 5:47 am

The time of the year where draft picks are overvalued. I would've kept Elliott, though Howard may be a lot better than most think. I still like White's talent as well. You didn't get taken to the cleaners.

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby Honey Badgers » Tue May 16, 2017 6:39 am

Zeke side pretty easy for me.
Dynasty League 12 Team .5 PPR
20 Man Rosters, 5 IR spots
Start QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2 FLEX (RB,WR,TE)
Wilson
Gordon, CMC Freeman, Ekeler, J. Williams
OBJ, Nuk, K. Allen, Golladay, Fitz Funchess, Cobb, Isabella, McLaurin, Cain
Kelce McDonald, Doyle, Waller


Empire League 12 Team .5 PPR

2019 Champion
21 Man Rosters, 5 IR spots
Start QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2 FLEX (RB,WR,TE)
Rivers, Big Ben
Zeke, Cook, Connor, A. Jones D. Williams, Ballage, M. Brown
Nuk, M. Thomas, AJG, Alshon A-Rob, Sammy, Crowder, Gallup
Njoku Henry, Hooper, Waller
20 picks-2 1sts, 2 2nds

Empire League 12 Team .5 PPR
21 Man Rosters, 5 IR spots
Start, QB, 2RB, 3 WR, TE, 2 FLEX, 1 Superflex, Def
Rodgers, Cam Wilson
Miller, AP A. Jones, Gore, McGuire
Evans, OBJ, A-Rob, Boyd, Sutton Crowder, Sanu, Sutton, Grant, Kearse, C0Patt
Burton Butt, Uzomah
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