Just Sold Zeke..

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Elliott, 2018 3rd, 2019 4th, 2020 1st
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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby The.Big.Spank » Tue May 16, 2017 6:49 am

Your a Dallas fan and you traded Zeke?
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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby hockeyBjj » Tue May 16, 2017 8:08 am

If you had only given up Zeke, I still would think you sold him a bit light

You giving in a 2020 1st and a 3rd and a 4th just makes this very much in your partner's favor. He doesn't lose out too much and gets to upgrade his Howard into Ezekiel freaking Elliot
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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby skip » Tue May 16, 2017 8:10 am

My concern here was accepting Kevin White as the WR in the trade. Howard will be a top 5 RB but he's enough behind Zeke that there needed to be more value coming back.
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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby greenbird » Tue May 16, 2017 9:05 am

I like the deal for you. Keep Howard. I think you got a steal. Zeke is good but so is Howard. 2 2018 1sts plus White is great value.

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby Spongehack » Tue May 16, 2017 9:09 am

There's no way I would have traded Zeke for that. :wall:
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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby dlf_brianh » Tue May 16, 2017 9:22 am

Goddard wrote:
Mon May 15, 2017 9:08 pm
I think you sold very, very low.
Yeah, I do too, but you win some you lose some. If the '18 1sts hit, you'll be fine. If they don't, I think you'll regret this one.
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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby colonnaj94 » Tue May 16, 2017 9:36 am

Thanks for the responses. Seems like an interesting debate. I know that Elliott was great last year, but the entire Cowboys team was great last year. A lot better than anyone ever expected. I think there will be some minor regression, plus that stuff about him with the domestic violence had me concerned and I figured I would cash out while I could. I know, nothing is probably going to happen with that, but still.

Also, the Cowboys lost two OL last year. I know Collins is going to move to OT, and Cooper will slide into the guard spot, which is fine. But still a little different.

Also, I tried getting a top tier WR that I liked a lot for Zeke (Evans, Julio, Cooper) everyone wanted way too much, they wanted something like Zeke + 1.2 + 2.5 for Evans or Julio, and there was no chance Id do that given Zeke's current ADP.

EDIT: I might have the opportunity to move Howard + 2.5 for Gurley. The Gurley owner is thinking it over. That would make me feel even better about this deal, personally
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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby DinoDynasty » Tue May 16, 2017 9:49 am

JCDallas wrote:
Tue May 16, 2017 9:36 am
Thanks for the responses. Seems like an interesting debate. I know that Elliott was great last year, but the entire Cowboys team was great last year. A lot better than anyone ever expected. I think there will be some minor regression, plus that stuff about him with the domestic violence had me concerned and I figured I would cash out while I could. I know, nothing is probably going to happen with that, but still.

Also, the Cowboys lost two OL last year. I know Collins is going to move to OT, and Cooper will slide into the guard spot, which is fine. But still a little different.

Also, I tried getting a top tier WR that I liked a lot for Zeke (Evans, Julio, Cooper) everyone wanted way too much, they wanted something like Zeke + 1.2 + 2.5 for Evans or Julio, and there was no chance Id do that given Zeke's current ADP.

EDIT: I might have the opportunity to move Howard + 2.5 for Gurley. The Gurley owner is thinking it over. That would make me feel even better about this deal, personally
As a Howard and Gurley owner, I value Howard higher than Gurley. Howard's was elite, and I'm pretty sure he had more than 100 yards in every game he had more than 18 carries. I know he is getting a rookie QB, and they lost Alshon, but his situation was poor last year and he performed well. Also, I still think the bears offense is better than the Rams. Buying low on Gurley would be Howard for Gurley +.
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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby dblj1199 » Tue May 16, 2017 9:59 am

JCDallas wrote:
Mon May 15, 2017 9:33 pm
Thanks for the responses.
I got a few outside opinions before taking the deal and they all said that it was worth doing. Interesting to see thats not the case here. Oh well. Can't win them all.

My goal was to turn Howard plus a 2nd or something else into one of Melvin Gordon, Todd Gurley or Devonta Freeman if possible.
I'm confused as to why you would trade away Zeke for a rb you are then looking to trade for someone else....and none of them are in Zekes category.
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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby DBass218 » Tue May 16, 2017 10:27 am

You and the DJ guy both may have gotten bankjobbed.

JoHo and 2 firsts in 18 (I don't think Kev will ever be much) for Zeke and anything isn't good.
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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby colonnaj94 » Tue May 16, 2017 10:32 am

DBass218 wrote:
Tue May 16, 2017 10:27 am
You and the DJ guy both may have gotten bankjobbed.

JoHo and 2 firsts in 18 (I don't think Kev will ever be much) for Zeke and anything isn't good.
Even if my team had no picks for the next 3 years and badly needed WR help?

I think White will be at least a WR3 and if he can stay healthy he has the tools be a WR2.. He was taken early in his draft class for a reason..
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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby ImaRounder » Tue May 16, 2017 11:13 am

I couldn't have made that trade... maybe I missed to boat on Jordan Howard but I don't believe in him or value him any more than I do Jay Ajayi. Therefore, I think you sold short.

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby DLF_Pierson » Tue May 16, 2017 11:51 am

I would NOT trade Howard for Gurley especially if your adding to your side!!! No way Jose! Keep Howard and attempt to make a good trade or two to make up for this one. I wouldn't have worried about the domestic violence stuff and don't consider this "cashing out" I would just keep Howard he's just as good as Gurley Gordon or Freeman
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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby DBass218 » Tue May 16, 2017 11:55 am

JCDallas wrote:
Tue May 16, 2017 10:32 am
DBass218 wrote:
Tue May 16, 2017 10:27 am
You and the DJ guy both may have gotten bankjobbed.

JoHo and 2 firsts in 18 (I don't think Kev will ever be much) for Zeke and anything isn't good.
Even if my team had no picks for the next 3 years and badly needed WR help?

I think White will be at least a WR3 and if he can stay healthy he has the tools be a WR2.. He was taken early in his draft class for a reason..
Still think it's bad. I would bet you could have gotten a better WR/RB combo for Zeke. I see your reasoning for doing it, though, and can't knock you for following a vision.
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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby Fantasyfanatic11 » Tue May 16, 2017 12:33 pm

lol this is terrible....

you'd have to think a Dallas fan would want an arm and a leg to give up Zeke
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