Just Sold Zeke..

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Elliott, 2018 3rd, 2019 4th, 2020 1st
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JHoward, Kevin White, (2) 2018 1sts
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Just Sold Zeke..

Postby colonnaj94 » Mon May 15, 2017 8:03 pm

Hey guys, I just made a trade. I was wondering how i did?

I Gave
Ezekiel Elliott
2020 1st
2018 3rd
2019 4th

I Got
Jordan Howard
Kevin White
2018 1st (Projected Early-Mid) - This pick is the current owner of 1.01
2018 1st (Projected Mid-Late)
1. 32 Team .5 PPR, 2x Copies
QB Brady, Brees, Winston, McCoy
RB Henry, Robinson, Gordon, David Johnson, Mattison, Jackson, Murray, Hyde
WR Robinson, D Johnson, Woods, Boyd, Anderson, Edelman, Ward, Amendola
TE Kelce, Graham

2. 12 Team PPR
QB Herbert Love
RB Vaughn, Penny, D Evans, R Freeman, McFarland
WR Metcalf, Lamb, Ruggs, Williams, Mooney, C Johnson, Hamler, AGG
TE Gesicki, Trautman
PICKS:
(3) 2nds, (3) 3rds, (3) 4ths

3. 12 Team PPR SF TE Prem IDP
QB Mahomes, Tannehill, Dalton
RB Henry, Gurley, Henderson, White, Burkhead, M Brown, R Freeman
WR Adams, Boyd, Allen, Gage, Washington
TE Andrews, Hurst, Graham, Thomas
DL Young, Allen, A Smith, Tomlinson, Payne
LB Thompson, A Johnson, Singleton, Bostic, Oluokun, Collins
DB Sorensen, Walker, Byard, Smith, Butler

4. 12 Team PPR
QB Wilson, Ryan, Brees
RB Henry, Gordon, RoJo, Gurley, Mostert, Coleman, McKinnon, L Murray, I Smith, B Hill
WR Thomas, Evans, Lockett, Davis, Green, Jeffery
TE Henry, Tonyan

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby jwint7910 » Mon May 15, 2017 8:12 pm

I took Howard and the 18 firsts, but it felt dirty. I would feel like I need one of Barkley or Guice to feel good about it. I would trade White after if I could find another taker.
Dynasty League: Est. 2012 2018 CHAMPION
10 Team PPR, All tds 6 points, 27 roster
Start: 1-QB, 2-4RB, 2-4WR, 1-3TE, 1-K, 1-DEF

QB BigBen, Dak
RB Barkley, Cook, Mixon, Chubb, D Williams, R Anderson, B Anderson
WR Nuk, AB, M Thomas, Cooper, M Williams, Godwin, Gallup, McLaurin, Cain, D Moore
TE Engram, Njoku, Knox
K Zuerlein
DEF Vikings, Chargers

2020:2,2,2,2,3,3-5
2021:1,2,2,5

Dynasty League: Est. 2017
12 Team PPR Superflex, 1/4 point per carry, TE bonus, All tds 6 points, 25 roster
Start: 1-2QB, 2-4RB, 3-5WR, 1-2TE, 1-K, 1-DEF

QB Rodgers, Watson, Luck, Murray
RB Mixon, Gordon, Chubb, Guice, Harris
WR JuJu, Cooks, Golladay, C Davis, Godwin, Fuller, Miller, Washington, Metcalf, AJ Brown, Quinn, C Moore
TE Engram, OJ Howard
K Zuerlein
DEF Denver

2019: 3.10,4.05
2020: 1,1,1,1,2,2,4-5
2021: 1-5

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby colonnaj94 » Mon May 15, 2017 8:20 pm

jwint7910 wrote:
Mon May 15, 2017 8:12 pm
I took Howard and the 18 firsts, but it felt dirty. I would feel like I need one of Barkley or Guice to feel good about it. I would trade White after if I could find another taker.
I felt that way too as a Cowboys fan. I just felt like the value was too good to pass up. Hopefully White can start the season strong and I have a nice WR2 on my hands..
1. 32 Team .5 PPR, 2x Copies
QB Brady, Brees, Winston, McCoy
RB Henry, Robinson, Gordon, David Johnson, Mattison, Jackson, Murray, Hyde
WR Robinson, D Johnson, Woods, Boyd, Anderson, Edelman, Ward, Amendola
TE Kelce, Graham

2. 12 Team PPR
QB Herbert Love
RB Vaughn, Penny, D Evans, R Freeman, McFarland
WR Metcalf, Lamb, Ruggs, Williams, Mooney, C Johnson, Hamler, AGG
TE Gesicki, Trautman
PICKS:
(3) 2nds, (3) 3rds, (3) 4ths

3. 12 Team PPR SF TE Prem IDP
QB Mahomes, Tannehill, Dalton
RB Henry, Gurley, Henderson, White, Burkhead, M Brown, R Freeman
WR Adams, Boyd, Allen, Gage, Washington
TE Andrews, Hurst, Graham, Thomas
DL Young, Allen, A Smith, Tomlinson, Payne
LB Thompson, A Johnson, Singleton, Bostic, Oluokun, Collins
DB Sorensen, Walker, Byard, Smith, Butler

4. 12 Team PPR
QB Wilson, Ryan, Brees
RB Henry, Gordon, RoJo, Gurley, Mostert, Coleman, McKinnon, L Murray, I Smith, B Hill
WR Thomas, Evans, Lockett, Davis, Green, Jeffery
TE Henry, Tonyan

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby Dr. Trades » Mon May 15, 2017 8:33 pm

I'm sorry, but there's almost no way I would have given up Zeke. Don't get me wrong, I like Howard, as I have him on other teams. But as much as I like him, his situation got a bit murkier this year with Alshon moving on and new QB in town, and I suspect defenses start loading the box against the former 5th rounder with an average O-line. Zeke is literally a true generational talent, working in a high octane offense with arguably the best O-line in town. To me, the trade boils down to Zeke for Howard plus two future firsts (White has done next to nothing so far). I've seen other threads where AB is valued at at least 3 future firsts and he's going to be 29 to start this season. For Zeke, he's almost priceless at this point in dynasty and I wouldn't be moving him for anything less than 3-4+ 1st rounders and other big name players included. Sorry bud, but I think you lost that trade.
League 1: 12 Team League (0.5 ppr WR/RB, 0.75 ppr TE):
QB: Deshaun Watson, Mayfield, Big Ben, Tannehill
RB: Saquon, Mixon, Rojo, Brian Hill
WR: Nuk, JuJu, Boyd, AJ Brown, Deebo, Tre'Quan Smith, Jalen Hurd, Preston Williams, M V-S, Steven Sims
TE: C. Herndon, Vance McDonald, T. Eifert, Josh Oliver

2020 picks: 4.05

League 2: 12 team (28 roster spots) Superflex/TE premium (qb 4pts per TD, all others 6pts per TD, WR/RB 0.1 ppc and 0.75ppr, TE 1.5 ppr)
QB: Brees, Stafford, Darnold
RB: Kamara, Mostert, Conner, James White, Malcolm Brown
WR: JuJu, Robert Woods, Mike Williams, Will Fuller, Bryan Edwards, KJ Hamler Dante Pettis, JJAWS, Amendola, Auden tate, jakobi meyers, Steven sims
TE: George Kittle, Evan Engram, Kaden Smith
2021 picks: 1st x 3, 2nd x 1, 3rd x 5

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby Kramer » Mon May 15, 2017 8:44 pm

Zeke still for me. Picks are hard to project. If you're wrong on the projection or if Howard is a one year wonder, then you're set back for years. Even in a rebuild I wouldn't have done this. Hopefully it works out for you, but you definitely lost a lot of value.
10 team SF .5ppr-QB,2RB,2WR,TE,Flex,SF,K,Def (30 spots)
QB: Winston,Dak,Dalton,Foles
RB: Fournette,Barkley,Mixon,Guice,Chubb,Foreman,Collins,Joe Williams,Yeldon,Scarborough
WR: Nuk,Davis,CoCo,JMatt,Doctson,Treadwell,Tyrell,Richardson
TE: Ertz,Eifert,Hooper,Everett,Shaheen,Burton,Butt

10 team SF PPR-QB,2RB,3WR,2TE,Flex,SF,2IDP,K,Def (35 spots)
QB: Rodgers,Wilson,Luck, Smith
RB: Fournette,McCoy,Mixon,Foreman,Martin,Powell,Conner,Collins
WR: Nuk,Hilton,Alshon,ARob,Davis,Tate,Gordon,MikeWilliams,Doctson,Kupp,Godwin
TE: Graham,Olsen,Henry,Howard,Everett,Kittle,Burton,Gathers
IDP: Bowmann,Burfict,Lee

28 team PPR SF, x2 copy, 0.2 PPC, 1.5PPR for TE - 1QB/1RB/1WR/1TE/5Flex/1SF (22+4IR+6Taxi)
QB: Wentz,Luck,Brissett
RB: Bell,Dixon,Gillislee,AP,Joe Williams,Perkins,Kelley
WR: Nuk,Hilton,ARob,Watkins,Decker
TE: Howard,Reed,Brate

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Mon May 15, 2017 8:47 pm

I'd have kept Zeke but only by a little. I'm not sold on Howard or White so that's why I lean Zeke. I don't know that Zeke is a such a generational talent though. Just a really good RB. Put Gurley, Jordan Howard, D Freeman, Melvin Gordon behind that line and I think you will see similar stats. But situation does count for RB's and that situation is awfully nice.
12 man Superflex deep starting requirements with even scoring among positions

11 starters - QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, Superflex, Flex, Flex, Flex.

1 PPR, 1 points every 10 yards rushing/receiving, 4 points per 100 passing, 4 point passing TDs, -2 INT.

TE premium 1.5 PPR and 1 point per 8.5 yards receiving.

QB- Russel Wilson, Joe Burrow, Matt Ryan, Tua Tagovailoa

RB -CEH, Kalen Ballage, Justin Jackson(ir), Chris Thopmson, Ryan Nall, Devine Ogzibo

WR - OBJ(IR), JuJu, Keenan Allen, DJ Chark, Tyler Boyd, Brandon Aiyuck,

TE - Dallas Goedert, Noah Fant, Gerald Everett, Logan Thomas, Drew Sample, Robert Tonyan, Dalton Schultz

IR- Quez Watkins,

2021 -1,2,2,2,5
2022-1,1,2,4,5

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby Goddard » Mon May 15, 2017 9:08 pm

I think you sold very, very low.

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby Alex116 » Mon May 15, 2017 9:19 pm

I think you lost this one. Zeke, and his situation, are both really good. Together, they're worth more than what you got.

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby colonnaj94 » Mon May 15, 2017 9:33 pm

Thanks for the responses.
I got a few outside opinions before taking the deal and they all said that it was worth doing. Interesting to see thats not the case here. Oh well. Can't win them all.

My goal was to turn Howard plus a 2nd or something else into one of Melvin Gordon, Todd Gurley or Devonta Freeman if possible.
1. 32 Team .5 PPR, 2x Copies
QB Brady, Brees, Winston, McCoy
RB Henry, Robinson, Gordon, David Johnson, Mattison, Jackson, Murray, Hyde
WR Robinson, D Johnson, Woods, Boyd, Anderson, Edelman, Ward, Amendola
TE Kelce, Graham

2. 12 Team PPR
QB Herbert Love
RB Vaughn, Penny, D Evans, R Freeman, McFarland
WR Metcalf, Lamb, Ruggs, Williams, Mooney, C Johnson, Hamler, AGG
TE Gesicki, Trautman
PICKS:
(3) 2nds, (3) 3rds, (3) 4ths

3. 12 Team PPR SF TE Prem IDP
QB Mahomes, Tannehill, Dalton
RB Henry, Gurley, Henderson, White, Burkhead, M Brown, R Freeman
WR Adams, Boyd, Allen, Gage, Washington
TE Andrews, Hurst, Graham, Thomas
DL Young, Allen, A Smith, Tomlinson, Payne
LB Thompson, A Johnson, Singleton, Bostic, Oluokun, Collins
DB Sorensen, Walker, Byard, Smith, Butler

4. 12 Team PPR
QB Wilson, Ryan, Brees
RB Henry, Gordon, RoJo, Gurley, Mostert, Coleman, McKinnon, L Murray, I Smith, B Hill
WR Thomas, Evans, Lockett, Davis, Green, Jeffery
TE Henry, Tonyan

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby hesexpress » Mon May 15, 2017 9:37 pm

Yeah... just can't get behind your thought process on this one.

Not a fan.

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby DLF_Pierson » Tue May 16, 2017 2:39 am

Not good, not good at all! You should've gotten WAY more than this!
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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby cforsberg123 » Tue May 16, 2017 5:36 am

I don't want to beat a dead horse but I will. The only way I move Zeke is if I'm desperate at receiver and trade him straight up for Odell or Evans. That's about what it would take for me, otherwise I'd need Bell and a high-mid 1st. You've gotta have some greed with these assets, they only have their value for a couple years. When you cash them in you have to cash them in big. I've made plenty of bad deals, trust me, but you live and you learn. This was probably one of those bad ones.
10 team dynasty league. Standard scoring w/.5 ppr. Players with 3 yrs or less can be on practice squad. Carry over 13 active 7 practice squad. Start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1FLEX, 1TE, 4 IDP

QB- Brees, Tannehill, Mayfield
RB- Zeke, Carson, CEH, M. Sanders, Da. Johnson,, Pollard
WR- Juju, DJ Moore, Boyd, Lamb, Jeudy, D. Parker, Slayton
TE- Fant, Hooper, Gesicki, Irv Smith
IDP-
DL- JPP, Chase Young
LB- J. Hicks, T.J. Watt, E. Kendricks,
DB- M. Fitzpatrick, H. Smith

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby IR1 » Tue May 16, 2017 5:39 am

Zeke easy for me
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Wilson, Herbert
RB-Kamara, Mixon, Dobbins, Akers, DHarris
WR-Adams, Evans, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Harry
TE- Kelce, Fant, Goedert, Njoku
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, KClark
DE- JBosa, Watt, Barnett, Gross-Matos
LB- D Jones, Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner , Simmons, Evans
CB- Moore, Hill, Bradberry, Bless
S- Clark, HSmith, Johnson, Dugger
IR Hunter, Barkley
2021- 1st x 1

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue May 16, 2017 5:47 am

The time of the year where draft picks are overvalued. I would've kept Elliott, though Howard may be a lot better than most think. I still like White's talent as well. You didn't get taken to the cleaners.

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Re: Just Sold Zeke..

Postby Honey Badgers » Tue May 16, 2017 6:39 am

Zeke side pretty easy for me.
Dynasty League 12 Team .5 PPR
20 Man Rosters, 5 IR spots
Start QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2 FLEX (RB,WR,TE)
Wilson
Gordon, CMC Freeman, Ekeler, J. Williams
OBJ, Nuk, K. Allen, Golladay, Fitz Funchess, Cobb, Isabella, McLaurin, Cain
Kelce McDonald, Doyle, Waller


Empire League 12 Team .5 PPR

2019 Champion
21 Man Rosters, 5 IR spots
Start QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2 FLEX (RB,WR,TE)
Rivers, Big Ben
Zeke, Cook, Connor, A. Jones D. Williams, Ballage, M. Brown
Nuk, M. Thomas, AJG, Alshon A-Rob, Sammy, Crowder, Gallup
Njoku Henry, Hooper, Waller
20 picks-2 1sts, 2 2nds

Empire League 12 Team .5 PPR
21 Man Rosters, 5 IR spots
Start, QB, 2RB, 3 WR, TE, 2 FLEX, 1 Superflex, Def
Rodgers, Cam Wilson
Miller, AP A. Jones, Gore, McGuire
Evans, OBJ, A-Rob, Boyd, Sutton Crowder, Sanu, Sutton, Grant, Kearse, C0Patt
Burton Butt, Uzomah
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