Will someone help talk me into this?

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Will someone help talk me into this?

Postby Iamwebb223 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:30 pm

I've been contacted about my 1.11 in our rookie draft. He's throwing out Keenan Allen. Love his talent and situation but he cannot stay healthy. Am i crazy for saying no??? Team 1 in sig.
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Re: Will someone help talk me into this?

Postby Kramer » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:33 pm

Yes, you're crazy. Take Keenan over a dart throw that will probably miss.
10 team SF .5ppr-QB,2RB,3WR,TE,Flex,SF,Def (30 spots)
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
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Re: Will someone help talk me into this?

Postby pierson242 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:33 pm

youre really asking this? This is a real question?
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Re: Will someone help talk me into this?

Postby flyersfan1981 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:34 pm

Iamwebb223 wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:30 pm I've been contacted about my 1.11 in our rookie draft. He's throwing out Keenan Allen. Love his talent and situation but he cannot stay healthy. Am i crazy for saying no??? Team 1 in sig.
Lol...

Even in non-PPR this is a steal for Keenan! Do you think you have a better chance at grabbing a high end WR2 at 1.11?
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Re: Will someone help talk me into this?

Postby rwstaub » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:41 pm

I dream about these types of deals getting offered to me and it never happens. Take it ASAP.
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Postby Tyrober » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:46 pm

Quit bragging and take the deal :)

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Re: Will someone help talk me into this?

Postby Waltsanity » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:56 pm

Was this offered at the end of a bender? Take the deal!
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Re: Will someone help talk me into this?

Postby Kramer » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:06 pm

NorthernFootball wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:56 pm Was this offered at the end of a bender? Take the deal!
:lol: :lol:
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WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
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Re: Will someone help talk me into this?

Postby bot » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:08 pm

Really?? If you need someone to talk you into this.........oh never mind. Just take it

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Re: Will someone help talk me into this?

Postby Goddard » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:58 pm

I don't think you're crazy, I think you're insane for even asking this lol!! Even if you hated Allen and thought he was a bum, you take this deal and flip him for WAYYYY more.

Since you posted this over an hour ago, I'm hoping you came to your senses by now and already took it.

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Re: Will someone help talk me into this?

Postby Generic Username » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:02 pm

I really should just quit throwing offers out with my mid/late firsts if stuff like this might come my way

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Re: Will someone help talk me into this?

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:03 pm

You'll be lucky if whoever you would've taken at 1.11 has the career of Keenan Allen to this point.

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Re: Will someone help talk me into this?

Postby crisdecamposmd » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:56 pm

Iamwebb223 wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:30 pm I've been contacted about my 1.11 in our rookie draft. He's throwing out Keenan Allen. Love his talent and situation but he cannot stay healthy. Am i crazy for saying no??? Team 1 in sig.
I think it depends on your depth chart and what's available. I think there will be a big shift in WRs this year so I stacked up last year utilizing the waiver. I have Tyrell Williams and would not trade him for Keenan Allen. Most people think that's absolutely nuts... but he's bigger, taller, faster, younger, and healthier. Keenan Allen put up monster points for half a year? Not only is it unlikely he'll put up the same points, he's rarely healthy. The following is my bench stash, and I think I'd take MOST of them before KA at 1.11: (in addition to these guys I have AJ Green)

- Kamar Aiken
- Jaron Brown
- Chris Conley
- Josh Doctson (I have B Quick too... who you could pick up at the end of your draft... at least one of them will have a monster year... assuming Cousins isn't in SF this time next week)
- Quincy Enunwa
- Marqise Lee
- Jordan Matthews
- Cameron Meredith
- Cordarrelle Patterson
- Eli Rogers

Clearly KA is rated higher than just about all of these guys. But, I think they all have a lot of upside based on their talent and situation.

AIKEN - is a stud with a chip on his shoulder and the OC remembers him when he came in as an UDFA in Buffalo (I think) and from what I've read he was even a stud at that time, plus he was the OC on another team (I think the Chiefs) when he had a monster game on them, including snagging a 50 yard TD bomb at halftime and another play of beating Marcus Peters deep.
BROWN - if you read up on him you'll find that he has been a monster Monday-Saturday on that team but has just been stuck behind Floyd (draft equity) and Fitz (last year). He has made some big time plays on Sunday but his opportunities have been limited... If he comes back healthy from his ACL though, he should have a good chance at a 800-1100 year, and then even more upside in 2018.
CONLEY - I can afford to hold him
DOCTSON/QUICK - One or both of these guys will have a monster year, simple logic on this one really -- grab them both, Doctson will be favored to get the targets (draft equity), but Quick can easily make big plays and is also simply behind Pryor/Doctson, both who have struggled with injuries.
ENUNWA - they didn't see paying Marshall 7.5 million which tells you something about Enunwa. They've been very happy with his development and Marshall's 130 targets just walked out the door. Some of those will absolutely be going to Enunwa who already had 105 in 2016.
LEE - drafted higher than AR15, finally emerged as a healthy version of himself in 2015. He was far more efficient than AR15 in 2016 -- 63/851/3 on 105 targets vs 73/883/6 on 151 targets. I'd expect it to be a coin flip between who is going to get more targets in 2017. Theoretically, if the targets were swapped Lee would have produced in the area of 88/1,191/4-5.
MATTHEWS - His value has plummeted, but he has done nothing to warrant that. Jeffery is actually his comparison when all the objective physical numbers are compared... the difference is he went into a good fantasy situation in Chicago and Matthews went into a horrific one -- limited to slot duties, surrounded by no other weapons, inconsistent coaching and QB play. Jeffery can very easily miss half of next year on top of that. Matthews advanced metrics actually compare to Jeffery, Fitzgerald, Jordy Nelson, AJ Green, and Eric Decker. If Wentz simply progresses in year 2, Matthews will most likely be a 1000 receiver, especially if Jeffery or Smith can ever command double-coverage.
MEREDITH - Clearly their #1. The GM raves about him and compares his development to Maquess Colston.
PATTERSON - Can be taken in late late rounds probably and, like Quick, has moved into a much better situation.
ROGERS - I can afford to hold him. Plus, if AB goes down he may have a chance to really go wild in his 2nd year.

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Re: Will someone help talk me into this?

Postby skip » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:08 pm

As the resident Keenan realist, even I am giving up 1.11 for him.
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Re: Will someone help talk me into this?

Postby Wsn21 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:16 pm

Id def take keenen, this is a steal
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