KB for Jordan Howard

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KB for Jordan Howard

Postby RocketDr » Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:48 pm

I was thinking about offering Kelvin Benjamin for Howard just to make a trade; what else (if anything) should I include in the initial offer? What would be the most to add as far as '18 picks go? He had previously shown a little interest in KB. His best WRs are Cooks, Tate, Stills, Fitz & DJax. Howard is definitely his best RB. Others are Fat Eddie, Powell, Yeldon, & AD. I could use help at WR too, but I'm not hot on KB after last year. Got high hopes, but def not counting on anything. Just thinking Howard would be a good add if I could get him for the right price. Or should I hold because I'm shallow at WR?
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Re: KB for Jordan Howard

Postby dhanks91 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:03 pm

I think it's a bad time to sell Benjamin. I think it would need to be possibly a 2018 first to make the jump to Howard. One post I seen yesterday had Howard going #10 in his startup, I think it's a little high but that should give you an idea where he is valued

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Re: KB for Jordan Howard

Postby Space Cowboy » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:17 pm

You might be halfway there. Howard will cost a lot....

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Re: KB for Jordan Howard

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:23 pm

Space Cowboy wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:17 pm You might be halfway there. Howard will cost a lot....
Agreed. KB & 2018 First will probably get declined.
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Re: KB for Jordan Howard

Postby cvbuc » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:52 pm

You're trying to trade a guy in KB who is at an extreme low in value for a guy Howard who seems to be at his extreme high in value. That's a hard recipe to get to work in your favor.
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Re: KB for Jordan Howard

Postby jpusmc0311 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:00 pm

cvbuc wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:52 pm You're trying to trade a guy in KB who is at an extreme low in value for a guy Howard who seems to be at his extreme high in value. That's a hard recipe to get to work in your favor.
This.......

This offer doesn't add up. It will take at least a 17 1st to make it happen imho
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Re: KB for Jordan Howard

Postby turfhero » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:18 pm

I would target another RB, Howard is at the peak of his price imo. Guys are putting him just outside that Zeke/Bell/DJ tier so it'll be a pretty penny.

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Re: KB for Jordan Howard

Postby Vcize » Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:03 pm

Howard isn't necessarily anywhere near the peak of his price. People always require an extra year for these guys picked late, but once they've done it twice all bets are off. If Howard has another good year he'll be a top top dynasty player next year.

That said, yeah, KB is barely going to be a starting point for talks with Howard.
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Re: KB for Jordan Howard

Postby Dr.Graffin » Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:16 pm

Space Cowboy wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:17 pm You might be halfway there. Howard will cost a lot....
Figured the same thing. Thought the offer would be KB plus a future first or something close to that.
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Re: KB for Jordan Howard

Postby Generic Username » Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:21 pm

I don't think a future first would get much attention, it'd have to be a 2017 and probably no worse than 1.07

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Re: KB for Jordan Howard

Postby treble83 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:35 pm

Generic Username wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:21 pm I don't think a future first would get much attention, it'd have to be a 2017 and probably no worse than 1.07
Since Howard is the best RB the other team has (and they're not looking to sell), I would think no less than a 1.03 this year..
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Re: KB for Jordan Howard

Postby RocketDr » Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:43 pm

I see a common theme here. So KB and an '18 first would be very unlikely to get it done, but it wouldn't necessarily be a garbage/insult offer? If he takes it great, if not I'll just pass and hope KB turns it around next year. Thx for the feedback.
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Re: KB for Jordan Howard

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:05 pm

RocketDr wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:43 pm I see a common theme here. So KB and an '18 first would be very unlikely to get it done, but it wouldn't necessarily be a garbage/insult offer? If he takes it great, if not I'll just pass and hope KB turns it around next year. Thx for the feedback.
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Re: KB for Jordan Howard

Postby Draft Master » Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:24 pm

No where close to getting Howard with that kind of offer....... Im not even sure adding a random 2018 first closes the gap to where the howard owner will get serious.

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Re: KB for Jordan Howard

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:52 pm

I had an owner offer me Jordan Howard for my rookie pick 1.02 in one league. Howard also just went 10th overall in a startup that I'm in, which I thought was way too early and I really like Howard too. Just trying to give you an idea how some owners are viewing him right now.
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