Questionable trade between best friends. Opinions please

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Questionable trade between best friends. Opinions please

Postby Suckmyvick » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:43 am

Problem solved.

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Re: Questionable trade between best friends. Opinions please

Postby georgetown » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:16 am

Superflex in a 10 team league - I'd consider Brees an elite QB to have.

RGIII doesn't matter for this league. So I'd see it as the two WRs and a swap of picks for Brees.

I'd actually take the Brees side.
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WR: D. Hopkins, S. Watkins, K. Allen, T. Hilton, D. Jackson, C. Sutton, C. Kirk
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Re: Questionable trade between best friends. Opinions please

Postby skip » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:36 am

Calling this "horrible" is a bit much. While the value of Brees in superflex is still pretty decent, he has made statements over the last couple of weeks that he isn't signing another extension and will play out the last year of his current contract. He turns 38 next week. Unlike Brady who I believe is still a handful of years away, it wouldn't surprise at all if Brees hangs them up at the end of the season in favor of the booth.

Tate just had a 90+ and 1,000+ season and Brown has his believers who think he will rebound back to 2015 production. The rest of the pieces of this deal aren't much.

If my assumption is right about Brees playing just 1 more season, how much do you think he could honestly fetch?
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Re: Questionable trade between best friends. Opinions please

Postby Valhalla » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:37 am

If the Brees owner thought '17 was Brees' last year, I could see the reasoning for moving him. Tate is solid and John Brown is adequate as a flex.
I don't think this is Brees' last season, and would happily take him in superflex for that price. I'd even take just one season of Brees over Tate and John Brown, but I guess I get it if he is entering a rebuild.

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Re: Questionable trade between best friends. Opinions please

Postby The.Big.Spank » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:42 am

Not horrible, at least not horrible enough to lose sleep over.
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Re: Questionable trade between best friends. Opinions please

Postby Balzac » Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:57 am

Trade looks fine to me. As stated Brees may be on his last year. I would probably rather have the Brees side, but next year the WR side will look much better if he retires.
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Re: Questionable trade between best friends. Opinions please

Postby Favrezilla » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:23 am

Balzac wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:57 am Trade looks fine to me. As stated Brees may be on his last year. I would probably rather have the Brees side, but next year the WR side will look much better if he retires.
agree - i think its a pretty fair trade.
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Re: Questionable trade between best friends. Opinions please

Postby pocylpse » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:38 am

Its not so horrible that I would feel the need to question it.
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QB: Brees, Mayfield, K. Allen
RB: Mixon, Kamara, Duke Johnson, Breida, Gio, Mattison, Gallman, D. Williams (KC)
WR: Nuk, Cooks, Kupp, ARob, Landry, Corey Davis, John Brown, Pettis, AJ Brown
TE: Hockenson, Olsen, Goedert
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Re: Questionable trade between best friends. Opinions please

Postby GridironGuerilla » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:38 pm

Even if it's "horrible" it's not "questionable".
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Re: Questionable trade between best friends. Opinions please

Postby Space Cowboy » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:14 pm

It's a bad trade but not enough to cause problems. It happens. Guy probably loves John Brown and see's Tate as a nice bridge for his young WRs.

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Postby slaughterrt » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:17 pm

I'm not sure which side I prefer to be honest.

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Re: Questionable trade between best friends. Opinions please

Postby onetwothree » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:41 pm

Just one of those trades that you wish you had a chance to bid on but nothing to raise a fuss about.

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Re: Questionable trade between best friends. Opinions please

Postby Phaded » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:24 pm

I think this is a fair trade that comes down to opinion.

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Re: Questionable trade between best friends. Opinions please

Postby flyersfan1981 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:35 pm

Suckmyvick wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:43 am This trade went down between 2 best friends in the league I run last night. Is it remotely close to being considered fair.

10 team ppr superflex 6pt all TD 26 man roster full dynasty.

Drew Bree's
2017 16th overall

For
Robert griffin
John brown
Golden Tate
2017 22nd overall

I think it's a horrible trade. What do you all think.
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That is how old Drew Brees is...the picks are fairly irrelevant to me as they are close enough and late enough that it is likely the same tier to me. John Brown is a great buy-low, and Tate is serviceable.

No problem with this trade...my guess is you (or others in your league) are upset because it likely makes the Drew Brees owner a strong contender for next season? If that is the case, then it sounds like sour grapes to me. This is the last year where Brees will have any decent value so nothing wrong here IMO.

If I were selling Brees, I might want more, but the deal is certainly not "horrible." This sounds like some bitter owners in your league to me...am I close? I mean if there were significantly better offers officially on the table for Brees and they were turned down, then you can broach the "C" word, but we need more info.
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Re: Questionable trade between best friends. Opinions please

Postby hockeyBjj » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:10 pm

Does Brees' team suck and he's thinking next year will be his last year and wants to get what he can for him now?
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