Wheaton or Coates
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Wheaton or Coates
Working on a trade and which one should i target? With the bryant suspension I am thinking one of these guys could produce WR3 numbers, honestly i would never start any of them but they are a perfect candidate to flip once they start producing. Right now there value is low and i think it will go up.
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Re: Wheaton or Coates
Currently Coates is the more sought after player for some reason. His value is already at a peak for the season unless he turns into Bryant 2.0 (which I don't believe he will). Grab Wheaton at his current discount and sell once it becomes clear to everyone he will be the starter and his value spikes.
Re: Wheaton or Coates
I'd rather own Wheaton because my expectation is that his path to fantasy relevance is shorter and clearer. Coates is probably the upside play.
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Re: Wheaton or Coates
Thats what i am thinking but everyone is on the coates train, like i am missing something.Franky Four Fingers wrote:Currently Coates is the more sought after player for some reason. His value is already at a peak for the season unless he turns into Bryant 2.0 (which I don't believe he will). Grab Wheaton at his current discount and sell once it becomes clear to everyone he will be the starter and his value spikes.
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Re: Wheaton or Coates
I see Wheaton be the starter and Coates being a filler. Wheaton has the most experience and Coates is still a little raw.
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Re: Wheaton or Coates
Agree with this. Let everyone go after and pay too much for Coats while you scoop up Wheaton for next to nothing. Heck, I picked him up off waivers end of last season and from my trade talks his value still isn't much more then that.
Coats obviously has more longer term upside, but why pay those prices. I'd rather take a shot at Wheaton dirt cheap, sell him after a few good games and pick Coats up on the cheap should he underperform.
Coats obviously has more longer term upside, but why pay those prices. I'd rather take a shot at Wheaton dirt cheap, sell him after a few good games and pick Coats up on the cheap should he underperform.
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If it's truly an either or choice, I'll take Coates for the upside.
I do agree with everyone else though, if the cost to acquire Wheaton is cheaper, I'd go that route.
I do agree with everyone else though, if the cost to acquire Wheaton is cheaper, I'd go that route.
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Agree here. We know what Wheaton can do without Bryant and it honestly wasn't too impressive. If you take Coates there's a chance he does a better job of filing Bryant's shoes. That said, that chance is minimal and if the price outweighs Coates's prospects, then I think I'd chose Wheaton. I don't expect consistency from either though.cp3 wrote:If it's truly an either or choice, I'll take Coates for the upside.
I do agree with everyone else though, if the cost to acquire Wheaton is cheaper, I'd go that route.
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Re: Wheaton or Coates
I voted Wheaton for demonstrated value over the last 6 weeks of 2015 (28/476/4 on 47 tgts).
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Re: Wheaton or Coates
This sums up my thoughts. Wheaton is also cheaper.tstafford wrote:I'd rather own Wheaton because my expectation is that his path to fantasy relevance is shorter and clearer. Coates is probably the upside play.
Edit- according to June ADP they're actually even value. I still think Wheaton's perceptional value is a bit lower than Coates atm.
Re: Wheaton or Coates
Well Wheaton is going first over Coates by ADP(115 to 120), so I'm not sure what kind of discount he really holds. You guys are acting like Coates value is well above Wheaton, and I'm not sure where that comes from, I don't think it's accurate. So if I'm picking between the two at even prices, give me Coates very easily. He can do most of what Bryant did with none of the character concerns. I've seen Wheaton play, and it's been highly mediocre in my opinion. Give me the upside that is Coates over the soon to be roster clogging Wheaton, but that's just me.Franky Four Fingers wrote:Currently Coates is the more sought after player for some reason. His value is already at a peak for the season unless he turns into Bryant 2.0 (which I don't believe he will). Grab Wheaton at his current discount and sell once it becomes clear to everyone he will be the starter and his value spikes.
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Re: Wheaton or Coates
Their draft ADP may be close but in terms of trade value Coats is quite a bit more then Wheaton who is nearly free. ADP doesn't really tell the whole story of their value.sugbear65 wrote:Well Wheaton is going first over Coates by ADP(115 to 120), so I'm not sure what kind of discount he really holds. You guys are acting like Coates value is well above Wheaton, and I'm not sure where that comes from, I don't think it's accurate. So if I'm picking between the two at even prices, give me Coates very easily. He can do most of what Bryant did with none of the character concerns. I've seen Wheaton play, and it's been highly mediocre in my opinion. Give me the upside that is Coates over the soon to be roster clogging Wheaton, but that's just me.Franky Four Fingers wrote:Currently Coates is the more sought after player for some reason. His value is already at a peak for the season unless he turns into Bryant 2.0 (which I don't believe he will). Grab Wheaton at his current discount and sell once it becomes clear to everyone he will be the starter and his value spikes.
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Re: Wheaton or Coates
Wheaton. Will be the starter, unless Coates is magic. Additionally, if you hold him throughout the season for production (doesn't sound like the OP's plan, but is mine) you're likely to find value after the season when he signs a too expensive contract somewhere else.
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