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Trade Opinions Welcome

Postby bigbuck22 » Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:08 am

This trade idea has been tossed around this offseason and was recently brought back up. It wouldn't go down until after the draft but any thoughts/opinions/adjustments (if needed) are welcome.

It has been presented as a baseline offer. Does it need additions?
Karlos/1.9 for Charles/2.6
12 Team Superflex; RB: .25PPC, 1PPR, WR: 1.25PPR, TE:1.5PPR
Start (10) 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Superflex, 4FLEX

QB: Watson, Tagovailoa Garopollo, Minshew, J Hall, Winston, S Bennett, T Hill
RB: Hall, Walker, A Jones, K Miller, Ford, Spiller, Tucker
WR: Chase, Lamb, AJ Brown, Aiyuk Ridley, Palmer, Iosivas, RJarrett
TE: McBride, , Engram, Kraft, Otton, Oliver

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Re: Trade Opinions Welcome

Postby Space Cowboy » Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:13 am

Younger back and the better pick for me.

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Re: Trade Opinions Welcome

Postby Ryantacular » Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:20 am

I like the K williams side, like mentioned above, a younger back, with tremendous upside, and the obvious heir to Mccoy, and also a better pick.

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Re: Trade Opinions Welcome

Postby bigbuck22 » Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:30 am

The way he presented it, I'm expecting he's going to want to add something perhaps on both sides that favors the Charles side.

1.Is that necessary?
2. If so, what would do the trick?
12 Team Superflex; RB: .25PPC, 1PPR, WR: 1.25PPR, TE:1.5PPR
Start (10) 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Superflex, 4FLEX

QB: Watson, Tagovailoa Garopollo, Minshew, J Hall, Winston, S Bennett, T Hill
RB: Hall, Walker, A Jones, K Miller, Ford, Spiller, Tucker
WR: Chase, Lamb, AJ Brown, Aiyuk Ridley, Palmer, Iosivas, RJarrett
TE: McBride, , Engram, Kraft, Otton, Oliver

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2024 1.03, 1.07, 3.01, 3.03
2025 1st 2nd 3rd
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Re: Trade Opinions Welcome

Postby Coogan Football » Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:21 pm

bigbuck22 wrote:The way he presented it, I'm expecting he's going to want to add something perhaps on both sides that favors the Charles side.

1.Is that necessary?
2. If so, what would do the trick?
Maybe you can throw him 4.03. I'm not high on KW but Charles is coming off of a 2nd major knee injury and he has capable RBs behind him which to makes it seem like he'll be splitting carries with Charc and probably Ware to some extent, I think Charles' bellcow days are over...this is probably the last time to sell him and get decent value back.

You are getting a bump by the higher pick and I doubt you'll find a better offer than this, add whatever small piece you have to whether it be a late pick or a deep bench player
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Start QB,SF,2RB,3WR,TE,2Flex,3DL,3LB,3DB,2DFlex
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QB: Brees, Luck, Prescott, McCarron, C.Kelly, Peterman
RB: Elliott, Gurley, Hunt, Kamara, Gordon, Howard, McCaffrey, J.Williams,
WR: Julio, Hopkins, M.Thomas, TY, Watkins, Kupp, C.Davis, Thomas (LA), Carroo, Switzer, Tr. Taylor
TE: Olsen, Engram, Howard, Fleener, Swoope
DL: Watt, Mack, C.Jordan, Bosa, D.Hunter, Clowney, Armstead
LB: Kuechly, Ogletree, Mosley, McKinney, R.Foster, Bucannon, Z.Cunningham, Anzalone, ShaqT,
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Re: Trade Opinions Welcome

Postby snuffalupicus » Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:33 pm

What Coogan said...except I do like Karlos Williams and think he will do fine when McCoy runs out of steam.
*2016 3rd* *2017 CHAMP* 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX, 1 K, 3 IDP, 1 Team DEF

QB - L Jackson, B Mayfield
RB - M Sanders, CE-Helaire, J Jacobs, M Brown, D Dallas, S Barkley, J Jackson, L McCoy
WR - M Thomas, A Brown, DJ Chark, B Edwards, M Pittman, D Johnson, P Williams, D Samuel
TE - T Higbee, D Goedert, M Gesicki, J Akins
K - J Tucker
IDP - J Collins, E Kendricks, L David
Def - Denver, Minnesota
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QB - C Newton, J Winston, Tannehill
RB - T Gurley, M Sanders, J Conner, J McKinnon, M Brown, K Ballage, A Jones, S Michel, J Samuels, D Harris, R Penny
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Re: Trade Opinions Welcome

Postby bigbuck22 » Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:29 pm

Anyone else have thoughts about whether or not anything more needs to be added to this deal?
12 Team Superflex; RB: .25PPC, 1PPR, WR: 1.25PPR, TE:1.5PPR
Start (10) 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Superflex, 4FLEX

QB: Watson, Tagovailoa Garopollo, Minshew, J Hall, Winston, S Bennett, T Hill
RB: Hall, Walker, A Jones, K Miller, Ford, Spiller, Tucker
WR: Chase, Lamb, AJ Brown, Aiyuk Ridley, Palmer, Iosivas, RJarrett
TE: McBride, , Engram, Kraft, Otton, Oliver

2023 Champ
2024 1.03, 1.07, 3.01, 3.03
2025 1st 2nd 3rd
2026 2nd 3rd

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Re: Trade Opinions Welcome

Postby PatsFan24 » Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:21 pm

If he offered it as is, I would accept that. See for sure if he wants you to add to the deal or not. If he does, I'd probably throw in the 4.3 like Coogan said or maybe try a later pick.
Roster (12 team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 1 DEF):

QB: Russell Wilson
RB: Saquon Barkley, Austin Ekeler, David Montgomery, Damien Harris, Nyheim Hines, David Johnson, Tony Pollard
WR: Tyreek Hill, Amari Cooper, Chris Godwin, OBJ, Curtis Samuel,
TE: Noah Fant, Robert Tonyan, David Njoku
K: Jason Sanders
DEF: New Orleans Saints
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2022 picks: 1, 2, 4

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Re: Trade Opinions Welcome

Postby bigbuck22 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:10 pm

Because he posed it as a baseline offer, I asked what he envisioned the trade to look like so that I could get a feel for where he was going with this "baseline" stuff. He came back with this...

Karlos/1.9
For
Charles/Perriman/3.6

I feel like he was setting me up and that my response should be to propose what was offered above. I'm not looking to move a young WR just to get a handcuff and a shot at another young WR. I need to accumulate that position.
Anyone else deal w guys that try the bait and switch maneuver? How do you deal w it?
12 Team Superflex; RB: .25PPC, 1PPR, WR: 1.25PPR, TE:1.5PPR
Start (10) 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Superflex, 4FLEX

QB: Watson, Tagovailoa Garopollo, Minshew, J Hall, Winston, S Bennett, T Hill
RB: Hall, Walker, A Jones, K Miller, Ford, Spiller, Tucker
WR: Chase, Lamb, AJ Brown, Aiyuk Ridley, Palmer, Iosivas, RJarrett
TE: McBride, , Engram, Kraft, Otton, Oliver

2023 Champ
2024 1.03, 1.07, 3.01, 3.03
2025 1st 2nd 3rd
2026 2nd 3rd


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