Both fair statements.Space Cowboy wrote:I'm not saying Brown is a WR1, but WR2 is not out of the question ... There's no reason to expect a dip in production...GridironGuerilla wrote:I'd take my chances on a potential WR 1 or 2. Brown is not. He is a WR3 who MIGHT scrape the top 24 at best. I think we've seen who John brown is, and I don't see any real improvement on that in his future. I know there aren't many WR1 type prospects this year but I'd personally be happy taking a chance with Thomas who he should definitely have a shot at at 5, but that's just me.Space Cowboy wrote:1.05 will probably end up being as good as Brown, if that, so I dont see the point. I'd hold Brown even though I'm not a big fan.
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How do his stats look when Floyd has been healthy? Not just playing as a decoy, but healthy? Honest question. I don't know.
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I like owning John Brown, but if I could trade him for 1.5 (or Floyd, for that matter), I would
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Anyone banking on two rouge picks to make the 1.05 the winner is silly. You need to prefer Coleman/Thomas over Brown otherwise it's a bad play given that's who will be there. I can see why some would or wouldn't.
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I love Smokey as much as anyone and I have a hard time deciding here, I say him and the 1.05 are equal and it would come down to the actual owner and what they needed.
If you need a WR3 to become a stronger team then keep him, if you are rebuilding then go with the pick.
Brown also turned 26 yrs old yesterday FWIW
If you need a WR3 to become a stronger team then keep him, if you are rebuilding then go with the pick.
Brown also turned 26 yrs old yesterday FWIW
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Retirement imminent
In all seriousness though, he was pretty mature (as far as growth goes) by the time he broke out. I'd rather have the guy that does it when he's only 22 or so.......
In all seriousness though, he was pretty mature (as far as growth goes) by the time he broke out. I'd rather have the guy that does it when he's only 22 or so.......
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I definitely see Henry going in the top 5, especially if he lands with one of the teams he is visiting (Cowboys, Panthers and Seahawks). Once Elliot goes, then Treadwell or Doctson, 1.3 and 1.4 will have a decision to make. I can easily see Coleman there at 1.5. Worst case scenario is I take Henry at 1.5 depending on his landing spot and keep John Brown.heldlightning wrote:1.05. Never discount the player ahead of you getting cute.GridironGuerilla wrote:I'm not a Brwon guy. I'd personaly take the 1.05 and after Zeke goes hope that someone in front of you takes a rougue WR, a QB, or Henry and one of those guys falls to you. If not, and you would rather not have a Thomas or Coleman over Brown you can always trade it away. IMHO.Mefisto wrote:1.05. I like John Brown but he's getting way overhyped. He's basically Kendall Wright but with a good QB. So what's going to happen once Palmer gets injured/retires?
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Brown plays outside. He's not a slot receiver. Not only is Wright slower than Brown, he's WAY slower (almost .3 seconds in the 40).Mefisto wrote:True, Brown is faster that Wright. That is one thing that you can't take away from him. But I think they're similar in that they're both slot/possession guys. And again, I said he's Wright with a good QB. Wright's best year was with what? Mettenberger? Locker? Someone else I'm forgetting? I'm sure he'd have a better YPC avg with Palmer throwing to him!
It seems like you're trying to categorize Brown as a slot receiver because he's short. But he has very little in common with Wright.
If we've already "seen" who Brown is then he's a WR2 because that's what he was last season.GridironGuerilla wrote:I'd take my chances on a potential WR 1 or 2. Brown is not. He is a WR3 who MIGHT scrape the top 24 at best. I think we've seen who John brown is, and I don't see any real improvement on that in his future. I know there aren't many WR1 type prospects this year but I'd personally be happy taking a chance with Thomas who he should definitely have a shot at at 5, but that's just me.Space Cowboy wrote:1.05 will probably end up being as good as Brown, if that, so I dont see the point. I'd hold Brown even though I'm not a big fan.
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Whatevs6 wrote:If we've already "seen" who Brown is then he's a WR2 because that's what he was last season.
Unless we're using different parameters to asses what a number 2 WR is in fantasy football, MFL player stats have him he finishing as the WR 27tth last year in a standard scoring league with no bonuses which equates to a high end WR 3, and 30th in PPR with no bonuses which equates to a mid WR 3 in a 12 team league.
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Oh I see. He finished as the WR22 in my standard scoring league.GridironGuerilla wrote:Whatevs6 wrote:If we've already "seen" who Brown is then he's a WR2 because that's what he was last season.
Unless we're using different parameters to asses what a number 2 WR is in fantasy football, MFL player stats have him he finishing as the WR 27tth last year in a standard scoring league with no bonuses which equates to a high end WR 3, and 30th in PPR with no bonuses which equates to a mid WR 3 in a 12 team league.
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Yeah, there could be slight variations in our scoring settings or stat providers for our respective league host sites. 22 is still a low end WR 2 and my statement included him "MAYBE scratching the top 24" so I stand by my thoughts.
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