J Charles for M Bryant?
J Charles for M Bryant?
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Is J Charles for M Bryant a fair deal? Both obviously have some concerns. Charles with his latest injury and age and Bryant with his off the field issues and being one more incident away from a season long suspension...
How do you guys feel about this trade offer?
QB: Stafford, Tannehill, McCarron
RB: Charles, McCoy, Langford, Ajayi, Blount, Starks, Ellington, K Davis\
WR: Landry, Decker, Hurns, Diggs, Perriman, Crowder, LaFell
TE: Fleener, McDonald, L Wilson
Picks: 1.1, 1.6, 2.6, 3.6
QB: Flacco, Griffin III, Garopollo
RB: Lacy, L Murray, J Allen, D Cobb
WR: ODB, AJ Green, J Gordon, M Bryant, P Dorsett, D Adams, K White, Ri Matthews, Snead
TE: Graham, Escobar
Picks: 1.2, 2.2, 3.2
Is J Charles for M Bryant a fair deal? Both obviously have some concerns. Charles with his latest injury and age and Bryant with his off the field issues and being one more incident away from a season long suspension...
How do you guys feel about this trade offer?
QB: Stafford, Tannehill, McCarron
RB: Charles, McCoy, Langford, Ajayi, Blount, Starks, Ellington, K Davis\
WR: Landry, Decker, Hurns, Diggs, Perriman, Crowder, LaFell
TE: Fleener, McDonald, L Wilson
Picks: 1.1, 1.6, 2.6, 3.6
QB: Flacco, Griffin III, Garopollo
RB: Lacy, L Murray, J Allen, D Cobb
WR: ODB, AJ Green, J Gordon, M Bryant, P Dorsett, D Adams, K White, Ri Matthews, Snead
TE: Graham, Escobar
Picks: 1.2, 2.2, 3.2
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Re: J Charles for M Bryant?
There will probably be some split decisions among the responses, but I'd decline that if I'm the Bryant owner. FWIW, I recently traded away Bryant for Yeldon.
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Re: J Charles for M Bryant?
Its close I'm just not to high on Bryant way to many up and down games I would go for a K.Allen type WR
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Re: J Charles for M Bryant?
I think that's pretty fair, may lean a little toward Bryant even though I'm not a big fan. Probably depends on team make up if the other side will accept.
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Re: J Charles for M Bryant?
I think it's close but I'd rather have JC with your team
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Re: J Charles for M Bryant?
Obviously Bryant is more likely to benefit you team over a five year period - despite off field risks. But Charles looked almost young before his injury so I would put my money on him being the one scoring most for the next couple of seasons. So as even as this is, I would assess it like this: do I believe I can win a title the next two year or not? Finally, I might also wanna look at what you expect doing with the 1.01 pick? In that perspective I would personally go Zeke/Bryant or Charles/sell it for DT plus 2 round?? I could be tempted to go for the latter as you have prospects on you roster and therefore not completely selling your future
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Re: J Charles for M Bryant?
I'm a firm believer in drafting the BAP meaning it's likely down to Elliott and Treadwell. I lean Elliott at the moment which gives me a lot of youth at RB and looking to add a WR who can add some zest to my roster. I would likely go WR at 1.6. It's a super flex so I'd expect aQB or two to come off the board by 6 leaving a solid WR prospect.
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Re: J Charles for M Bryant?
I seem to be the minority on Bryant but I honestly would bet money the kid goes for 1200 and 10 tds in 2017! JC is soild but getting up there in age and coming off the ACL I like Bryant by a lot!
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Re: J Charles for M Bryant?
x2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TmoGuru wrote:I seem to be the minority on Bryant but I honestly would bet money the kid goes for 1200 and 10 tds in 2017! JC is soild but getting up there in age and coming off the ACL I like Bryant by a lot!
Re: J Charles for M Bryant?
The only reason this is close is the age and possible injury concerns with Charles. On talent it is night and day. Charles is arguably the most talented, versatile RB n the game outside of maybe only Leveon Bell. My fear with Bryant is he will always play second fiddle and therefore struggle with consistency. When healthy there isn't an RB in the league I trust more in my lineup than Charles.
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Re: J Charles for M Bryant?
I see many of you favor Charles in this discussion. If you were to pick a different WR to trade Charles for who would it be?
Basically, what would his stand alone value be in terms of equal players or draft picks?
Basically, what would his stand alone value be in terms of equal players or draft picks?
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Re: J Charles for M Bryant?
X3! I'll go as far as to say that I expect those numbers out of him in '16. It goes unnoticed by some since he missed 5 games to start the season and his year end stats don't look impressive, but from the time Bryant stepped onto the field in week 6 until the end of the fantasy season in week 16 Bryant was a low WR1 in '15. That's in his second season in the league, being thrust into his first action of the season in pretty much the middle of the season, and dealing with Ben's injuries. I believe that if Ben is healthy in '16, both Brown/Bryant will be fantasy WR1s.MRx747 wrote:x2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TmoGuru wrote:I seem to be the minority on Bryant but I honestly would bet money the kid goes for 1200 and 10 tds in 2017! JC is soild but getting up there in age and coming off the ACL I like Bryant by a lot!
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Re: J Charles for M Bryant?
As much as it pains me to agree with a Buckeye - x4! I have already acquired MB in one of my leagues this off season and wouldn't even consider trading him for JC.BuckeyeNation wrote:X3! I'll go as far as to say that I expect those numbers out of him in '16. It goes unnoticed by some since he missed 5 games to start the season and his year end stats don't look impressive, but from the time Bryant stepped onto the field in week 6 until the end of the fantasy season in week 16 Bryant was a low WR1 in '15. That's in his second season in the league, being thrust into his first action of the season in pretty much the middle of the season, and dealing with Ben's injuries. I believe that if Ben is healthy in '16, both Brown/Bryant will be fantasy WR1s.MRx747 wrote:x2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TmoGuru wrote:I seem to be the minority on Bryant but I honestly would bet money the kid goes for 1200 and 10 tds in 2017! JC is soild but getting up there in age and coming off the ACL I like Bryant by a lot!
Re: J Charles for M Bryant?
Based in your team looking like a rebuild vs a contender in a superflex I'd recommend trading Charles. Should have traded McCoy already as his value has taken a hit. If you were contending for a title I would have told you to keep Charles. I'd also draft treadwell at 1.1, but I build around WRs and QBs in dynasty superflex. RBs are way to unpredictable and injury prone for me
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Re: J Charles for M Bryant?
Best offer I got for McCoy last year was a 2nd and had one owner offer me a 3rd for Charles. Obviously that is far less than I'm willing to let them go for. I'd love to move Charles for a high upside WR and then probably grab Elliott because I believe he's the top prospect right now(i worry about the speed of Treadwell, although he reminds me of Jeffery). I would like to build around WR but don't feel like there is necessarily one to build around this year, thus why I'm looking to move Charles for a young one w upside. Aside from a couple of guys in this league, many over value their guys big time (ex. Steve Smith was apparently worth two firsts and a second last yr). It's difficult to find a WR.
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