Langford: cash in for old studs or just hold?

[M-Dub]

Team 1 in sig. Langford has been attracting a lot of interest in my league lately. Trading doesn't resume until after the Super Bowl, but I've been in preliminary talks with one particular owner from whom I think I can get solid value in return. He's trying to get younger, and I wouldn't mind taking a couple aging studs off his hands for a championship push next year. I'm looking to make a deal for Fitz and AP and maybe get one young piece back in return. He has expressed interest in Langford, Reed, Mariota, Buck Allen and the 1.08. Here's his roster:

Brady, Cousins, E. Manning
AP, Freeman, Woodhead, CAP, Crowell, M. Davis
Fitz, Allen, Cooper, DGB, Cooks, Michael Floyd
Bennett, Ebron, Rudolph

Pretty sure any deal is gonna have to include Langford on my end and either Fitz or AP (or both) on his end. I'm hesitant to part with Reed, since it would leave me pretty weak at TE, but I also feel like this is a prime opportunity to sell high on him. Am I crazy to think that he should add something to Fitz/AP to get Langford and Reed? If I asked for Floyd or DGB, what else would I have to add on my end? What if I tried for a blockbuster and asked for Allen or Cooper? Is there someone else on his roster I should be targeting instead? Or should I just hold onto Langford and see what I have in him?

Sorry for the boatload of questions. Haha. I guess mainly I'm just wondering what kind of deal you guys think we could strike involving the main pieces mentioned above. Thanks in advance!

[saw061600]

Unless you get an offer that values Langford as the starter, I'd wait on him. The speculative value will move up if Forte leaves.

[Coogan Football]

Unless you get an offer that values Langford as the starter, I'd wait on him. The speculative value will move up if Forte leaves.

I agree, I really liked Langford last year around this time.

Forte is reportedly NOT coming back to CHI, a beat reporter for the team said that the other day.

[bot]

Wait until he IS named starter. Forte is as good as gone. You could always hold as RB may be ur weakest position simply because u have no real stud but u have 4 that could be solid contributors in Murray, Hyde, Ajayi and Langford.

I would also aim higher. Go for AP and Allen maybe for Langford, Agholor and 1.08 or something like that. You know you can get Fitz prob anytime so I would start high. Or offer des and Langford for cooper, Allen and AP or something. Lots of possibilities

[sugbear65]

Offer him the 5 pieces he's interested in for AP and Cooper. If you could pull that off it be a nice win for you. I'd even take AP and Kennan for those pieces, but if you can negotiate him down to that and pull a piece back, that be gravy too.

[M-Dub]

Offer him the 5 pieces he's interested in for AP and Cooper. If you could pull that off it be a nice win for you. I'd even take AP and Kennan for those pieces, but if you can negotiate him down to that and pull a piece back, that be gravy too.

As I mentioned in the OP, trading won't resume until after the SB, but we've agreed in principle to Langford, Buck, Agholor, Mariota and 1.08 for Keenan, AP and Fitz. Told him I'd take Cousins off his hands too if he was just gonna drop him.

I think this puts me in really good position to make a title run next season. It should give me arguably the best WR corps in the league. Another guy has Julio, Nuk, ARob, Lockett, Edelman and Adams, but I think Keenan and Fitz are enough to push me ahead of him. Losing some of my young RB depth is a bummer, but if AP can give me one or two more RB1 years, I think it's a worthwhile investment. Plus, I managed to hang onto Jordan Reed. We just bumped up our entry fee from $50 to $125, so I definitely think this is a good year to go all-in.

Thoughts on this trade?

[Coogan Football]

If it works out your way and you win then it was definitely worth it. I like Langford and Agholor but if those old guys can help win you the championship then that's all that matters

I think AP is the deal-breaker in this trade, my bet is on your side though as I think he can be a RB1 for 2-3 more years with the way he looks

[unrealken88]

Offer him the 5 pieces he's interested in for AP and Cooper. If you could pull that off it be a nice win for you. I'd even take AP and Kennan for those pieces, but if you can negotiate him down to that and pull a piece back, that be gravy too.

As I mentioned in the OP, trading won't resume until after the SB, but we've agreed in principle to Langford, Buck, Agholor, Mariota and 1.08 for Keenan, AP and Fitz. Told him I'd take Cousins off his hands too if he was just gonna drop him.

I think this puts me in really good position to make a title run next season. It should give me arguably the best WR corps in the league. Another guy has Julio, Nuk, ARob, Lockett, Edelman and Adams, but I think Keenan and Fitz are enough to push me ahead of him. Losing some of my young RB depth is a bummer, but if AP can give me one or two more RB1 years, I think it's a worthwhile investment. Plus, I managed to hang onto Jordan Reed. We just bumped up our entry fee from $50 to $125, so I definitely think this is a good year to go all-in.

Thoughts on this trade?

Feel like you over paid. I don't know why Mariota was part of this deal? The other guy had Brady, Cousins, & Eli, he didn't need him. I feel like Mariota couldn't have been taken out completely and another minor piece could have taken his place to make this a much more balanced trade. Like you said... IF you win it this year it is worth it, but I think you gave up a lot in order to do this. You gave up two potential young starting RB's, Agholor is a question mark at this point, a young starting QB, and a first round pick for Keenan, and two guys who have a year or two left.

[Samhain34]

Offer him the 5 pieces he's interested in for AP and Cooper. If you could pull that off it be a nice win for you. I'd even take AP and Kennan for those pieces, but if you can negotiate him down to that and pull a piece back, that be gravy too.

As I mentioned in the OP, trading won't resume until after the SB, but we've agreed in principle to Langford, Buck, Agholor, Mariota and 1.08 for Keenan, AP and Fitz. Told him I'd take Cousins off his hands too if he was just gonna drop him.

I think this puts me in really good position to make a title run next season. It should give me arguably the best WR corps in the league. Another guy has Julio, Nuk, ARob, Lockett, Edelman and Adams, but I think Keenan and Fitz are enough to push me ahead of him. Losing some of my young RB depth is a bummer, but if AP can give me one or two more RB1 years, I think it's a worthwhile investment. Plus, I managed to hang onto Jordan Reed. We just bumped up our entry fee from $50 to $125, so I definitely think this is a good year to go all-in.

Thoughts on this trade?

Feel like you over paid. I don't know why Mariota was part of this deal? The other guy had Brady, Cousins, & Eli, he didn't need him. I feel like Mariota couldn't have been taken out completely and another minor piece could have taken his place to make this a much more balanced trade. Like you said... IF you win it this year it is worth it, but I think you gave up a lot in order to do this. You gave up two potential young starting RB's, Agholor is a question mark at this point, a young starting QB, and a first round pick for Keenan, and two guys who have a year or two left.

I disagree with this; I like the deal for you. Sometimes I feel like everybody is perpetually rebuilding and nobody ever pushes all-in. You did. The only hole I'm worried about on your team is QB, but you're in a 1QB league and somebody will be available on the cheap after the draft. I would have asked for Brady in exchange for Mariota, but he's dumping one of those 4 QBs, so not to worry. You're a contender now and you have one of my very favorite WRs in Keenan.

[Sgtpsych]

Wait until he IS named starter. Forte is as good as gone. You could always hold as RB may be ur weakest position simply because u have no real stud but u have 4 that could be solid contributors in Murray, Hyde, Ajayi and Langford.

I would also aim higher. Go for AP and Allen maybe for Langford, Agholor and 1.08 or something like that. You know you can get Fitz prob anytime so I would start high. Or offer des and Langford for cooper, Allen and AP or something. Lots of possibilities

I would wait to see what is the deal with this. If he is the starter then it would be great. But if you can get better value due to overvaluation, pull the trigger.

[sloth8u]

As I mentioned in the OP, trading won't resume until after the SB, but we've agreed in principle to Langford, Buck, Agholor, Mariota and 1.08 for Keenan, AP and Fitz. Told him I'd take Cousins off his hands too if he was just gonna drop him.....


Thoughts on this trade?

i really dont like the deal on your end because it seems to me as if your selling every piece at a discount. i may be completely wrong here...but im going to guess that the day forte walks away from chi town....we will see allen and langford pretty close in adp (within a rd of each other). you are then offering up buck, agholor, mariotta, and 1.8 for fitz and ap....thats just way to much! those guys or similar guys can be had for much cheaper. not to mention the fact that you would be giving up on 3 rookies here that you liked enough to roster.

on value alone, assuming im right about how close adp will have langford if/when forte is gone, langford and agholor, mariotta, or 1.8 should be enough to close the gap and possibly even buck if your trade partner is high on him. leading to the value of ap and fitz, i believe 1.8 is being generous with ap, and i really see no reason to target fitz with anything valued inside the top 12. simply put...the production can be found elsewhere with a much younger player.

[WhatWouldDitkaDo]

As I mentioned in the OP, trading won't resume until after the SB, but we've agreed in principle to Langford, Buck, Agholor, Mariota and 1.08 for Keenan, AP and Fitz. Told him I'd take Cousins off his hands too if he was just gonna drop him.

Feel like you over paid. I don't know why Mariota was part of this deal? The other guy had Brady, Cousins, & Eli, he didn't need him. I feel like Mariota couldn't have been taken out completely and another minor piece could have taken his place to make this a much more balanced trade. Like you said... IF you win it this year it is worth it, but I think you gave up a lot in order to do this. You gave up two potential young starting RB's, Agholor is a question mark at this point, a young starting QB, and a first round pick for Keenan, and two guys who have a year or two left.

Disagree. The value on both side is about equal, but I prefer the Keenan Allen side. I think this trade works well for OP to bolster his team for a solid title run in 2016. Agholor has upside, but AP and Fitzgerald will still contribute next season barring injury. Mariota is worth an early 2nd or late 1st at most in a 1QB league. I don't personally believe Langford is going to be an RB1 next season, but I do agree that maybe OP should hold off on the deal until after Forte leaves. Langford's hype and trade value should rise even more when that happens.

Keenan Allen >= Jeremy Langford + Buck Allen + 1.08
Adrian Peterson >= Nelson Agholor
Larry Fitzgerald >= Marcus Mariota

[McCloskey22]

I would hold on a guy like Langford, especially until we see what happens with Chicago. So much uncertainty on the offense.

[M-Dub]

Sorry to bump this thread yet again, but the Keenan owner got cold feet and backed out of the deal. Had the TY Hilton owner contact me about Langford last night. Now I'm wondering what I should expect to add to Langford to acquire Hilton.

Frankly, I'm not super high on Hilton. He's been a solid producer over the past three years, but I just don't see him as a legit WR1. At best, I see him as a slight upgrade over Hurns as my WR4, so I'm definitely not interested in overpaying for him. That said, he seems like a reliable high-end WR2 and should see an uptick in production if Luck stays healthy next year. Does Langford plus Agholor or the 1.08 seem reasonable?

[WhatWouldDitkaDo]

Does Langford plus Agholor or the 1.08 seem reasonable?

I think either offer would be a good buy-low but still fair offer for Hilton. I'd throw that out and see what happens.