Is this honestly veto worthy?
Is this honestly veto worthy?
So I recently agreed to a trade last night before the games began, it was I trade Peyton, perriman, and James jones and in return I get Matt Ryan and Hyde. The defending champion in our league found out about it and claims it to be unfair, and has even told another owner he needs to veto it also. I would appreciate some input as to if this is even close to veto worthy. I'm probably the other owners biggest competition, so I'm wondering if that has something to do with him wanting it vetod. Thank you!
Re: Is this honestly veto worthy?
I hate the veto power anyway. But that is not a good deal for the other owner. Taking Peyton and James Jones is foolish. With that said, other owners should have NO say in trades because people can't be objective. And it's borderline collusion for one owner to tell another he should veto a trade.
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Re: Is this honestly veto worthy?
It's not close to veto worthy, but playing in any league that allows veto's set's you up for scenario's like this where other owners are annoyed when they perceive a deal is lopsided in your favor. Almost no one predicted that kind of game for Hyde last night. Sure, today the deal looks like it's in your favor but in two weeks it could look a lot different.
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Re: Is this honestly veto worthy?
I don't like Veto leagues- but that seems pretty bad after this week. Why would that other owner make this trade?? For Perriman? He's future. To win it all this year w Peyton? If to win it all why get rid of Hyde?? That trade doesn't make much sense unless the guy has a ton of Rb's to give away wants Peyton for the title run.
Re: Is this honestly veto worthy?
Jealousy veto, nothing more.
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This.Telperion wrote:Jealousy veto, nothing more.
Also wondering if there were any vetoes last year, or veto-worthy trades by him that got him the league championship?
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Re: Is this honestly veto worthy?
He does have plenty of rbs, and was starting sanu at wr, so he needed help there. I don't disagree at all that I won the trade, but at the time of the trade last night, the trade didn't look nearly as bad as it does now. Appreciate the response though.Huddle3233 wrote:I don't like Veto leagues- but that seems pretty bad after this week. Why would that other owner make this trade?? For Perriman? He's future. To win it all this year w Peyton? If to win it all why get rid of Hyde?? That trade doesn't make much sense unless the guy has a ton of Rb's to give away wants Peyton for the title run.
Re: Is this honestly veto worthy?
No vetoes last year, but this same guy has complained about a few trades people have made this year and has tried to talk owners out of trades with other people before.hudini33 wrote:This.Telperion wrote:Jealousy veto, nothing more.
Also wondering if there were any vetoes last year, or veto-worthy trades by him that got him the league championship?
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That's not ok. Complaining is one thing, but trying to talk people out of trades is not something he should be doing. Just a jealous guy i guessStephan3 wrote:No vetoes last year, but this same guy has complained about a few trades people have made this year and has tried to talk owners out of trades with other people before.hudini33 wrote:This.Telperion wrote:Jealousy veto, nothing more.
Also wondering if there were any vetoes last year, or veto-worthy trades by him that got him the league championship?
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Re: Is this honestly veto worthy?
Not veto worthy and it's a league I'd walk away from. From the OPs comments there's a pattern of this guy pulling these stunts therefore it's more than likely not going to change. I'd rather not have to deal with that kind of BS.
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Re: Is this honestly veto worthy?
It's not veto worthy BUT it also shouldn't be put thru until today. You just can't trade players that have already played. ALL my leagues have a rule (and MFL supports it with a checkbox) that you can't trade a guy who has already played. Thus this trade would be invalid but would go thru Tuesday morning after all games have completed.
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Re: Is this honestly veto worthy?
The fact this was agreed upon before the games in particular makes it a more even deal as the consensus was talking down Hyde all summer right up until last nights performance.
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people are back on the Hyde Bandwagon for now but this trade is nowhere near veto worthy. If Perriman comes in, in week 6 and averages 80 yards a game, .7 TD's and 5 receptions the rest of the year, all of a sudden it's an even trade (unlikely I admit but not impossible.)
Tell that guy to GFY and if they veto it, walk. That crap is not worth your time.
August RB ADP- 15
Overall ADP- 47 (Perrimans is 50 overall)
RB rankings -15 (Perriman is the 32nd WR)
people are back on the Hyde Bandwagon for now but this trade is nowhere near veto worthy. If Perriman comes in, in week 6 and averages 80 yards a game, .7 TD's and 5 receptions the rest of the year, all of a sudden it's an even trade (unlikely I admit but not impossible.)
Tell that guy to GFY and if they veto it, walk. That crap is not worth your time.
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Re: Is this honestly veto worthy?
The trade we verbally agreed upon, but didn't get proposed until today. The owner had just heard about it .bonscott wrote:It's not veto worthy BUT it also shouldn't be put thru until today. You just can't trade players that have already played. ALL my leagues have a rule (and MFL supports it with a checkbox) that you can't trade a guy who has already played. Thus this trade would be invalid but would go thru Tuesday morning after all games have completed.
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That was my main argument. The two were basically equal value wise for a long period of time. The timing of the trade is what makes it look lopsided. Thank you.venomreapers wrote:The fact this was agreed upon before the games in particular makes it a more even deal as the consensus was talking down Hyde all summer right up until last nights performance.
August RB ADP- 15
Overall ADP- 47 (Perrimans is 50 overall)
RB rankings -15 (Perriman is the 32nd WR)
people are back on the Hyde Bandwagon for now but this trade is nowhere near veto worthy. If Perriman comes in, in week 6 and averages 80 yards a game, .7 TD's and 5 receptions the rest of the year, all of a sudden it's an even trade (unlikely I admit but not impossible.)
Tell that guy to GFY and if they veto it, walk. That crap is not worth your time.
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Re: Is this honestly veto worthy?
No trade is legit until it is offered & accepted on whatever site you run your league on. Talking it over before the games does not count. If thats the case why didn't you trade before week 1? Trade should go through but I would give that guy some crap- why doesn't he put Hyde on the market now & see what he gets? Probably a little more than 40 yr old Manning & the butterfingered Perriman…..
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