Dez or A. Brown?

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Better option long term?

Dez
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A. Brown
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Cooper/Adams/1st
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Dez or A. Brown?

Postby 0crush83 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:38 pm

I have been offered Dez Bryant for my 1.03 (70/30 chance that Cooper is there) plus Adams and a 2016-1st. This is a no-brainer right?

Well my question is should I try to go after A. Brown over Dez Bryant with that offer? I think the A. Brown team will do it, we've talked before and he's informed me he would move either Brown or DT if I added something to Adams and 1.03 this year.

I think they're both great offers for me but I just don't know which way to go. HELP!!! :wall:
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Re: Dez or A. Brown?

Postby TomBobAnderson » Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:44 pm

AB all day for me. Especially in PPR.

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Re: Dez or A. Brown?

Postby M-Dub » Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:38 pm

I'd rather have Dez or DT over Brown.
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Re: Dez or A. Brown?

Postby venomreapers » Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:56 pm

I'd go for AB as well. Either way, it's a good trade.
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Re: Dez or A. Brown?

Postby Hjorimir » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:08 pm

Give me Dez.
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Re: Dez or A. Brown?

Postby chee13 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:20 pm

Give me Dez! He's a year younger and has 15 more receiving touchdowns than AB over the last 3 seasons.
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Re: Dez or A. Brown?

Postby operwapitsai » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:34 pm

Haha your decision is even easier now, isn't it! :wink:

These two guys are a wash man.


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Re: Dez or A. Brown?

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:34 pm

Dez. Best red zone WR in the NFL.
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Re: Dez or A. Brown?

Postby RightlegTucker » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:39 pm

Antonio Brown is the Rodney Dangerfield of the NFL.

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Re: Dez or A. Brown?

Postby operwapitsai » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:45 pm

RightlegTucker wrote:Antonio Brown is the Rodney Dangerfield of the NFL.

Ohhhhhhh pleaseeee, come on!
AB gets plenty of respect here, and around the league. I doubt anybody here has him outside their top 3-5 WRs.

However I do appreciate the reference
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Re: Dez or A. Brown?

Postby 0crush83 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:47 pm

Well this is making it even harder :wtf:

I guess I'll just have to flip a coin. I like Brown because it's a PPR league and I feel he's underrated. But.....Dez is Dez and he's a beast and a TD machine.

Thanks for the thoughts everyone. Hopefully a few more opinions are given and I can be persuaded to go a certain way. I like both evenly for different reasons and think either one will give me a nice boost for years to come.
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TE- Kelce, Engram
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Re: Dez or A. Brown?

Postby Scorpio78 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:48 pm

If you want the #1 dynasty asset, go with Dez. If you want the NFL's leading receiver, and reigning PPR king, go with AB. Age shouldn't be a concern (as another poster suggested) as AB is less than four months older than Dez. Personally, I would take AB without hesitation…he NEVER disappears. You can't truly appreciate how consistently good the guy is until he's in your line-up…and trust me…you'll be glad he's there if you decide to go that route.

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Re: Dez or A. Brown?

Postby RightlegTucker » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:58 pm

operwapitsai wrote:
RightlegTucker wrote:Antonio Brown is the Rodney Dangerfield of the NFL.

Ohhhhhhh pleaseeee, come on!
AB gets plenty of respect here, and around the league. I doubt anybody here has him outside their top 3-5 WRs.

However I do appreciate the reference
:biggrin:

My post was certainly a hyperbole, but let me put it this way. In PPR leagues, if Dez had Antonio's numbers the past two seasons and Antonio had Dez's this wouldn't even be a discussion. It would be a landslide for Dez. If Antonio were taller there would be no debate. Non-PPR is debatable I suppose since Dez is the better bet to put up high TD totals. 8 and 13 isn't too shabby either though!

As a final note, I also think Antonio has a better QB situation with Ben moving forward than Dez does with Romo. He should have more seasons left in him. I think it's something you have to factor into the equation when weighing/(projecting) their long term value against each other.

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Re: Dez or A. Brown?

Postby operwapitsai » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:23 pm

RightlegTucker wrote:
operwapitsai wrote:
RightlegTucker wrote:Antonio Brown is the Rodney Dangerfield of the NFL.

Ohhhhhhh pleaseeee, come on!
AB gets plenty of respect here, and around the league. I doubt anybody here has him outside their top 3-5 WRs.

However I do appreciate the reference
:biggrin:

My post was certainly a hyperbole, but let me put it this way. In PPR leagues, if Dez had Antonio's numbers the past two seasons and Antonio had Dez's this wouldn't even be a discussion. It would be a landslide for Dez. If Antonio were taller there would be no debate. Non-PPR is debatable I suppose since Dez is the better bet to put up high TD totals. 8 and 13 isn't too shabby either though!

As a final note, I also think Antonio has a better QB situation with Ben moving forward than Dez does with Romo. He should have more seasons left in him. I think it's something you have to factor into the equation when weighing/(projecting) their long term value against each other.
Ah you may be right and I can't really disagree, however, it just so happens that Dez is Dez and AB is AB.
If we were in this fantasy fantasy world (?) And your scenario were reality... we may have a unanimous #1 dynasty asset, but we are not :(

Anyhow, I try not to put number rankings on players, and instead just tier them. Both these guys are in my tier 1, of all players.
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Re: Dez or A. Brown?

Postby 0crush83 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:08 pm

Well between the responses and my gut I've offered Adams/1.03/2016-1st for Brown. We'll see what he says. If he changes his mind I'll wait until draft day Sunday. If Coopers still on the boards at 3, which is a good possibility, I'll take the Dez offer.
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TE- Kelce, Engram
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