Just sold Akers for Saquon and my mouth nearly fell off

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Re: Just sold Akers for Saquon and my mouth nearly fell off

Postby BradysBunch » Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:31 pm

i prefer akers here as well. But, I have had Barkley on my two teams the last two years...and I am done with him.
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Re: Just sold Akers for Saquon and my mouth nearly fell off

Postby Diti51 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:10 pm

I think time will tell. Like the idea of getting younger for Barkley, especially with unknown coach and GM and Barkley on final year (UFA in 2023 I think) of his contract.

Akers is obviously not without risk. Coming back from Achilles, and no guarantees he isn't in a 60-40 time share in backfield with Sony Michel and others and that Rams line is not what it used to be. Whitworth likely done after this year so big hole at tackle and tapped out cap wise with no draft capital to reload.

Its a gamble. Can see both sides of argument. Always great discussion and fascinating to hear and see opinions for both sides.

I am sure OP was tired of Barkley and Giants, so well done getting solid return for Barkley with a home run swing in Akers.
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RB: Jonathan Taylor/Singletary/Allgier/Ty Chandler/Bigsby/AGibson
WR: Garret Wilson/Nico Collins/Diontae Johnson/Mi Williams/Marquise Brown/Zay Flowers
TE: Goeddert/Njoku/Ferguson/Harrison Bryant

Team 2 - Good Life
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QB: Josh Allen/Dobbs
RB: Jon Taylor/Roschon Johnson/JK Dobbins/Ty Chandler
WR: Diggs/Lockett/Diontae Johnson/Pittman/Elijah Moore/Jayden Reed/Wandale Robinson
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Re: Just sold Akers for Saquon and my mouth nearly fell off

Postby abloom » Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:55 am

I'm more concerned about akers's hands now than his Achilles.

24 carries and 2 receptions

Stafford had 4 carries, Michel 1, and Jefferson 1

As long as we see him hold onto the ball I'm feeling better about him.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Re: Just sold Akers for Saquon and my mouth nearly fell off

Postby Marauders » Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:45 pm

I prefer Akers quite a bit more, such a better offense, better long term and next year imo

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Re: Just sold Akers for Saquon and my mouth nearly fell off

Postby PhillySpecial » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:05 am

Diti51 wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:10 pm I think time will tell. Like the idea of getting younger for Barkley, especially with unknown coach and GM and Barkley on final year (UFA in 2023 I think) of his contract.

Akers is obviously not without risk. Coming back from Achilles, and no guarantees he isn't in a 60-40 time share in backfield with Sony Michel and others and that Rams line is not what it used to be. Whitworth likely done after this year so big hole at tackle and tapped out cap wise with no draft capital to reload.

Its a gamble. Can see both sides of argument. Always great discussion and fascinating to hear and see opinions for both sides.

I am sure OP was tired of Barkley and Giants, so well done getting solid return for Barkley with a home run swing in Akers.
The Rams team build is a great point - aging team, no draft capital, tight cap space. The OL in LA may be worse than the NYG next season if the NYG draft some early OL in 2022.

Barkely stated he rehabbed and did not train to his standards during the 2021 offseason. This offseason may be much different for Barkley and I expect a turnaround in 2022.

The Akers return is absolutely amazing and he looks very quick and getting receptions downfield - drool worthy. He had some nice runs called back which affects his overall production and has a few fumbles (likely due to lack of playing time in 2021).

Overall this is a Barkley 50.1% to Akers 49.9% - tight race! Barkley may be a good buy right now due to frustrated owners and Akers may be a good sell due to the hype.
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QB - Justin Herbert. Anthony Richardson. Geno Smith. Sam Howell.
RB - Saquon Barkley. JK Dobbins. Tony Pollard. Leonard Fournette. Kareem Hunt. Devin Singletary. Zamir White. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Zach Evans. Chris Rodriquez.
WR - AJ Brown. DK Metcalf. Chris Godwin. Deebo Samuel. Amon Ra St Brown. Courtland Sutton.
TE - Darren Waller. Pat Freiermuth. Evan Engram.

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Re: Just sold Akers for Saquon and my mouth nearly fell off

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:45 pm

abloom wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:23 pm Like Akers a lot more than saquon here.
Still feeling the same way about this?
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Re: Just sold Akers for Saquon and my mouth nearly fell off

Postby abloom » Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:07 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:45 pm
abloom wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:23 pm Like Akers a lot more than saquon here.
Still feeling the same way about this?
Yes. Very much so.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Re: Just sold Akers for Saquon and my mouth nearly fell off

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:36 am

abloom wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:07 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:45 pm
abloom wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:23 pm Like Akers a lot more than saquon here.
Still feeling the same way about this?
Yes. Very much so.
Wow. I can't see how. Akers looked bad, and Barkley has always been the far superior talent. Akers isn't worth a first for me at this point, I'd still pay that for Barkley. To each their own, I guess. I thought those who would rank Akers higher than Barkley might reconsider after seeing Akers look so bad. Is it due to the complete lack of belief in Barkley at this point, and the Giants?
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Re: Just sold Akers for Saquon and my mouth nearly fell off

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Sep 11, 2022 5:13 pm

Bumping this thread. Interesting to see the value shift at this point.
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Re: Just sold Akers for Saquon and my mouth nearly fell off

Postby papageo8 » Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:13 pm

I also moved on from barkley as the barkley hype started and flipped him for 2x1sts and a 2nd.

Really didn't want to bet on either but barkley looks like the superior player and situation here.

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Re: Just sold Akers for Saquon and my mouth nearly fell off

Postby abloom » Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:07 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 5:13 pm Bumping this thread. Interesting to see the value shift at this point.
Pretty sure the value shift happened a month or two ago, not the last few days. I know it did for me.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Team #6 orphan
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Re: Just sold Akers for Saquon and my mouth nearly fell off

Postby Jigga94 » Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:35 am

abloom wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:07 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 5:13 pm Bumping this thread. Interesting to see the value shift at this point.
Pretty sure the value shift happened a month or two ago, not the last few days. I know it did for me.
What changed in the offseason for you? Looks like you were still high on him after the playoff games where he did basically nothing.

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Re: Just sold Akers for Saquon and my mouth nearly fell off

Postby abloom » Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:38 am

Jigga94 wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:35 am
abloom wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:07 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 5:13 pm Bumping this thread. Interesting to see the value shift at this point.
Pretty sure the value shift happened a month or two ago, not the last few days. I know it did for me.
What changed in the offseason for you? Looks like you were still high on him after the playoff games where he did basically nothing.
Reports that saquon was looking better, nyg didn't bring on any significant RB, talking up saquon in receiving game. Vs sticking with the 2 backs in lar.

Additionally, this is more of having their values swapped a bit from Akers being late first and Barkley being early second values to Barkley being the late first and Akers being a second rounder.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Team #6 orphan
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Re: Just sold Akers for Saquon and my mouth nearly fell off

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:08 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sorry., but I've been bookmarking in my brain the Akers takes over the last few off seasons. It may be my most adamant, consistent take ever, in fact, I am pretty sure it is....so yes, I admit this is a victory lap post, of an exhausting dialogue about this guy with so many for over a year now.

This trade, looks just ridiculous right now.

THIS IS AN OLDER THREAD.

Want to be clear. not advice at this point, but man, this shows how sometimes values shift drastically, and well, often times, it's better to take the guy who was actually elite, and not a guy who flashed and had a "good situation". ACL's so often take a full football year (meaning more than a calendar year) to really get better, factoring in the mental aspect of a guy trusting his body the way he once did. Achilles, well, they are far worse. Combine that with the fact SB was such a superior talent to begin with, and we have this result.
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