Stacked at WR, Need to get a RB

[jwb32]

He rejected the offer for both JT and Williams.

This isn't really very close. JT > JJ and the rest is just fluff. Regarding the original question, Hill and Jefferson are the only WRs that will get you a top tier RB in return. Otherwise, maybe something like Keenan or Jeudy for Jacobs or Montgomery if the Jacobs/Monty owners are WR needy contenders deep at RB.

[HughHoney]

He rejected the offer for both JT and Williams.

Not surprised. Williams is much too big a piece to add on to JT. I’d ask for JT+2022 3rd. That seems fair but I’d make the deal for JT alone if he won’t do that.

[wickerkat1212]

He rejected the offer for both JT and Williams.

Did he counter?

He keeps offering JT for Jefferson, David Johnson, and Connor.

I think Jefferson is going to be stud WR1 for a very long time. And when I look at the numbers, it's not a bad trade offer, but I really hate to part with him. I tried inserting Allen for JJ, but no luck. I was trying to find a counter with Allen + another WR but not sure who to give up.

Allen + Shenault?

If I give up Jefferson, maybe I need a WR back

His WRS:

Anderson, Robby CAR WR 226.20 13 Trade
Chark, D.J. JAC WR 153.60 7 2.11 (2018) Trade
Evans, Mike TBB WR 248.60 9 Trade
Gage, Russell ATL WR 181.65 6 Trade
Harmon, Kelvin WAS WR ‐ 9 3.10 (2019) Trade
Higgins, Tee CIN WR 196.60 10 2.02 (2020) Trade
Johnson, Tyron LAC WR 79.50 7 Trade
Kupp, Cooper LAR WR 210.90 11 Trade
Pascal, Zach IND WR 136.90 14 Trade
Waddle, Jaylen MIA WR (R) ‐ 14 1.09 Trade
Ward, Greg PHI WR 133.85 14 Trade

Maybe Jefferson + Connor (who I don't think is even the starter, Edmonds is) + David Johnson
FOR
JT + Waddle?

[jwb32]

He rejected the offer for both JT and Williams.

Did he counter?

He keeps offering JT for Jefferson, David Johnson, and Connor.

I think Jefferson is going to be stud WR1 for a very long time. And when I look at the numbers, it's not a bad trade offer, but I really hate to part with him. I tried inserting Allen for JJ, but no luck. I was trying to find a counter with Allen + another WR but not sure who to give up.

Allen + Shenault?

If I give up Jefferson, maybe I need a WR back

His WRS:

Anderson, Robby CAR WR 226.20 13 Trade
Chark, D.J. JAC WR 153.60 7 2.11 (2018) Trade
Evans, Mike TBB WR 248.60 9 Trade
Gage, Russell ATL WR 181.65 6 Trade
Harmon, Kelvin WAS WR ‐ 9 3.10 (2019) Trade
Higgins, Tee CIN WR 196.60 10 2.02 (2020) Trade
Johnson, Tyron LAC WR 79.50 7 Trade
Kupp, Cooper LAR WR 210.90 11 Trade
Pascal, Zach IND WR 136.90 14 Trade
Waddle, Jaylen MIA WR (R) ‐ 14 1.09 Trade
Ward, Greg PHI WR 133.85 14 Trade

Maybe Jefferson + Connor (who I don't think is even the starter, Edmonds is) + David Johnson
FOR
JT + Waddle?

JT > JJ and Conner/DJ add no value to this trade, so you aren't getting a rookie like Waddle added to JT.

[wickerkat1212]

Did he counter?

He keeps offering JT for Jefferson, David Johnson, and Connor.

I think Jefferson is going to be stud WR1 for a very long time. And when I look at the numbers, it's not a bad trade offer, but I really hate to part with him. I tried inserting Allen for JJ, but no luck. I was trying to find a counter with Allen + another WR but not sure who to give up.

Allen + Shenault?

If I give up Jefferson, maybe I need a WR back

His WRS:

Anderson, Robby CAR WR 226.20 13 Trade
Chark, D.J. JAC WR 153.60 7 2.11 (2018) Trade
Evans, Mike TBB WR 248.60 9 Trade
Gage, Russell ATL WR 181.65 6 Trade
Harmon, Kelvin WAS WR ‐ 9 3.10 (2019) Trade
Higgins, Tee CIN WR 196.60 10 2.02 (2020) Trade
Johnson, Tyron LAC WR 79.50 7 Trade
Kupp, Cooper LAR WR 210.90 11 Trade
Pascal, Zach IND WR 136.90 14 Trade
Waddle, Jaylen MIA WR (R) ‐ 14 1.09 Trade
Ward, Greg PHI WR 133.85 14 Trade

Maybe Jefferson + Connor (who I don't think is even the starter, Edmonds is) + David Johnson
FOR
JT + Waddle?

JT > JJ and Conner/DJ add no value to this trade, so you aren't getting a rookie like Waddle added to JT.

Well part of the problem is that RBs are at a premium. Even guys like DJ. He's a starting RB. They are hard to get. I don't think he realizes that Edmonds is the starter right now (as far as I see).

I'd do JT for JJ straight up maybe, as I really need DJ as a starter.

[HughHoney]

Did he counter?

He keeps offering JT for Jefferson, David Johnson, and Connor.

I think Jefferson is going to be stud WR1 for a very long time. And when I look at the numbers, it's not a bad trade offer, but I really hate to part with him. I tried inserting Allen for JJ, but no luck. I was trying to find a counter with Allen + another WR but not sure who to give up.

Allen + Shenault?

If I give up Jefferson, maybe I need a WR back

His WRS:

Anderson, Robby CAR WR 226.20 13 Trade
Chark, D.J. JAC WR 153.60 7 2.11 (2018) Trade
Evans, Mike TBB WR 248.60 9 Trade
Gage, Russell ATL WR 181.65 6 Trade
Harmon, Kelvin WAS WR ‐ 9 3.10 (2019) Trade
Higgins, Tee CIN WR 196.60 10 2.02 (2020) Trade
Johnson, Tyron LAC WR 79.50 7 Trade
Kupp, Cooper LAR WR 210.90 11 Trade
Pascal, Zach IND WR 136.90 14 Trade
Waddle, Jaylen MIA WR (R) ‐ 14 1.09 Trade
Ward, Greg PHI WR 133.85 14 Trade

Maybe Jefferson + Connor (who I don't think is even the starter, Edmonds is) + David Johnson
FOR
JT + Waddle?

JT > JJ and Conner/DJ add no value to this trade, so you aren't getting a rookie like Waddle added to JT.

Agree. You could ask for Gage but I doubt he would add that either. I think his current offer is a good one and that may be as high as he goes unless you can get a late rookie pick thrown in.

[HughHoney]

He keeps offering JT for Jefferson, David Johnson, and Connor.

I think Jefferson is going to be stud WR1 for a very long time. And when I look at the numbers, it's not a bad trade offer, but I really hate to part with him. I tried inserting Allen for JJ, but no luck. I was trying to find a counter with Allen + another WR but not sure who to give up.

Allen + Shenault?

If I give up Jefferson, maybe I need a WR back

His WRS:

Anderson, Robby CAR WR 226.20 13 Trade
Chark, D.J. JAC WR 153.60 7 2.11 (2018) Trade
Evans, Mike TBB WR 248.60 9 Trade
Gage, Russell ATL WR 181.65 6 Trade
Harmon, Kelvin WAS WR ‐ 9 3.10 (2019) Trade
Higgins, Tee CIN WR 196.60 10 2.02 (2020) Trade
Johnson, Tyron LAC WR 79.50 7 Trade
Kupp, Cooper LAR WR 210.90 11 Trade
Pascal, Zach IND WR 136.90 14 Trade
Waddle, Jaylen MIA WR (R) ‐ 14 1.09 Trade
Ward, Greg PHI WR 133.85 14 Trade

Maybe Jefferson + Connor (who I don't think is even the starter, Edmonds is) + David Johnson
FOR
JT + Waddle?

JT > JJ and Conner/DJ add no value to this trade, so you aren't getting a rookie like Waddle added to JT.

Well part of the problem is that RBs are at a premium. Even guys like DJ. He's a starting RB. They are hard to get. I don't think he realizes that Edmonds is the starter right now (as far as I see).

I'd do JT for JJ straight up maybe, as I really need DJ as a starter.

DJ is near the end and will split carries with Lindsay so he doesn’t carry a lot of value. If you don’t want to include DJ maybe throw in a pick. I don’t think you’re gonna get JT straight up.

[wickerkat1212]

JT > JJ and Conner/DJ add no value to this trade, so you aren't getting a rookie like Waddle added to JT.

Well part of the problem is that RBs are at a premium. Even guys like DJ. He's a starting RB. They are hard to get. I don't think he realizes that Edmonds is the starter right now (as far as I see).

I'd do JT for JJ straight up maybe, as I really need DJ as a starter.

DJ is near the end and will split carries with Lindsay so he doesn’t carry a lot of value. If you don’t want to include DJ maybe throw in a pick. I don’t think you’re gonna get JT straight up.

Good point.

Maybe I'll just counter asking for Gage.

[HughHoney]

Well part of the problem is that RBs are at a premium. Even guys like DJ. He's a starting RB. They are hard to get. I don't think he realizes that Edmonds is the starter right now (as far as I see).

I'd do JT for JJ straight up maybe, as I really need DJ as a starter.

DJ is near the end and will split carries with Lindsay so he doesn’t carry a lot of value. If you don’t want to include DJ maybe throw in a pick. I don’t think you’re gonna get JT straight up.

Good point.

Maybe I'll just counter asking for Gage.

Gage could be a good short term play.

[murphysxm]

I think you are thinking too hard. you have a fair offer on the trade that helps your team. Don't feel like you have to "win" every trade

[jwb32]

I think you are thinking too hard. you have a fair offer on the trade that helps your team. Don't feel like you have to "win" every trade

THIS!!!!

[wickerkat1212]

Fair offer for sure, just like JJ a lot.

[wickerkat1212]

I'm going to make a few offers including Allen and if those don't work I'll circle back and ask for JT + Gage.

[vixen]

try offering Allen and Jeudy to an owner..
I understand not wanting to lose JJ (warning: Viking fan giving that advice). but if you don't want to lose him, then you need to a approach a different owner. that guy isn't interested in Allen, no need to keep pushing him toward Allen.
Allen and Jeudy for Chubb or Smith or Akers.. rookies are at a premium, but you could try the Harris owner..
of course, I can throw out a bunch of names, but if the team that rosters those players doesn't need WRs, then a deal won't happen.. you have to look for WR needy teams

[wickerkat1212]

try offering Allen and Jeudy to an owner..
I understand not wanting to lose JJ (warning: Viking fan giving that advice). but if you don't want to lose him, then you need to a approach a different owner. that guy isn't interested in Allen, no need to keep pushing him toward Allen.
Allen and Jeudy for Chubb or Smith or Akers.. rookies are at a premium, but you could try the Harris owner..
of course, I can throw out a bunch of names, but if the team that rosters those players doesn't need WRs, then a deal won't happen.. you have to look for WR needy teams

Yep. Good stuff here. Been trying to get RBs for Allen from other teams. Unfortunately most teams are not deep at RB and don't want to trade a stud starting RB even for Allen.

The best guy to trade with has not been responding, but hoping he will when we get closer to the season. He has:

Cook
Barkley
AJones
MDavis
Carter