Aiyuk or Jeudy

[BabyChark23]

Jeudy. Aiyuk did very little last year when Kittle and Deebo were active.

I have heard a several people say this recently, and I am not sure where it is coming from. There were only two games all year where all three players were on the field for at least 63% of the snaps (Week 5 and Week 6). In Week 5, all three players put up less than 9 fantasy points in PPR. The entire team only had 16 receptions combined that week. The following week, Jimmy G was back, and all three players scored a touchdown, but Deebo and Kittle had significantly more targets. We only have that one week where all three players played the majority of the snaps and those two overshadowed Aiyuk. That game happened very early in his rookie season following a majorly atypical offseason. I don’t understand how that becomes “Aiyuk doesn’t produce when the other two are on the field.” That seems like way too much of an extrapolation based on one game.

Hmm. I think your stats actually support my point.

I agree that what you said is true. My counterpoint is that we only have two games as a sample size to evaluate performance with all three players on the field, and one of those is tainted by abnormally poor quarterback play. Two games is a very small sample size to draw the conclusion that Aiyuk will not produce well going forward as long as Deebo and Kittle are both healthy just because he didn’t in these two games.

[repkllrs]

In the 6 games Aiyuk and Kittle were both on the field, Aiyuk got 27 targets.
In the 6 games Aiyuk was on the field without Kittle, Aiyuk got 69 targets.
Give me Jeudy.

[Anteaters]

I'm as low as anyone on Jeudy, and I choose Jeudy here. For the record, I'm not "low" on Jeudy. Just lower than everyone else.

[atlmoneyman]

I have heard a several people say this recently, and I am not sure where it is coming from. There were only two games all year where all three players were on the field for at least 63% of the snaps (Week 5 and Week 6). In Week 5, all three players put up less than 9 fantasy points in PPR. The entire team only had 16 receptions combined that week. The following week, Jimmy G was back, and all three players scored a touchdown, but Deebo and Kittle had significantly more targets. We only have that one week where all three players played the majority of the snaps and those two overshadowed Aiyuk. That game happened very early in his rookie season following a majorly atypical offseason. I don’t understand how that becomes “Aiyuk doesn’t produce when the other two are on the field.” That seems like way too much of an extrapolation based on one game.

Hmm. I think your stats actually support my point.

I agree that what you said is true. My counterpoint is that we only have two games as a sample size to evaluate performance with all three players on the field, and one of those is tainted by abnormally poor quarterback play. Two games is a very small sample size to draw the conclusion that Aiyuk will not produce well going forward as long as Deebo and Kittle are both healthy just because he didn’t in these two games.

I never said that Aiyuk wouldn’t produce. I said he hasn’t done much with the two guys on the field who I feel will be ahead of him in the targets order. And in what will be a running offense since 49ers defense will be healthy and they can go back to the run people to death and play defense formula. Jimmy G had 8 pass attempts in a playoff game a couple years ago under that formula.

I would prefer Jeudy. His team will either be terrible and need to pass a lot in losses…or they will make a trade for Aaron Rodgers or Deshaun Watson.

So yean man…Jeudy over Aiyuk for me.

[atlmoneyman]

In the 6 games Aiyuk and Kittle were both on the field, Aiyuk got 27 targets.
In the 6 games Aiyuk was on the field without Kittle, Aiyuk got 69 targets.
Give me Jeudy.

This…

[Zhoward88]

I think Jeudy is a far better player, who had the drops last year. I want him everytime

It’s kinda funny to see someone say jeudy is the far better player. Honestly. It’s funny. I get if you want him more or whatever. But it’s just a bad message to say jeudy is far better than Aiyuk. Lol yikes.

[Zhoward88]

I think Jeudy is a far better player, who had the drops last year. I want him everytime

It’s kinda funny to see someone say jeudy is the far better player. Honestly. It’s funny. I get if you want him more or whatever. But it’s just a bad message to say jeudy is far better than Aiyuk. Lol yikes.

Both had bad QB play, jeudy caught 53 of 113 targets. Less TDs, and issues with drops. That comes off as a far better player than 90 targets for 60 receptions and more TDs with less drops?

[MaddMadden]

Jeudy by a mile.

[PR0v3]

Aiyuk looked better to me last year. More explosive, more physical, better hands, better production, comparable route running. Both had their whole offense injured/out last year and Aiyuk proved he could face top coverage and carry the entire WR load/be a team’s WR1, Jeudy proved he couldn’t.

I don’t see much difference between Deebo+Kittle and Sutton+Fant as far as competition for targets either, and the 49ers QB+coaching situation is a million times better than Denver’s.

Seems like the heavy preference for Jeudy is just take lock on the predraft fantasy scout consensus. They had near identical draft capital so they the NFL didn’t see much difference between them as prospects either.

[SStory93]

Aiyuk for me. I know there is a segment about 1st year WR are GOLD. One thing they highlighted was that a WR that gets an 80 or better grade from PFF in the 1st year are near a lock to be a At least a WR2 or Better (from what I recall an WR that got an 80 or better rookie year all had a WR1 season besides one player) and not bust. Also I believe his YPG category was the same as Lambs, which is he has 50% to be a Great (multiple WR 1 seasons) fantasy WR and 69% good (multiple WR 2 seasons), something along those line. Put those things two together and to me you have a very undervalued WR, who is more on par with Lamb than in the Jeudy Convo. I still like Jeudy, still hopes he turns into something good. But think Aiyuk is on that track already with a better offense, better coach, and better QB.

[TyrannosaurusRex]

Aiyuk for me. I know there is a segment about 1st year WR are GOLD. One thing they highlighted was that a WR that gets an 80 or better grade from PFF in the 1st year are near a lock to be a At least a WR2 or Better (from what I recall an WR that got an 80 or better rookie year all had a WR1 season besides one player) and not bust. Also I believe his YPG category was the same as Lambs, which is he has 50% to be a Great (multiple WR 1 seasons) fantasy WR and 69% good (multiple WR 2 seasons), something along those line. Put those things two together and to me you have a very undervalued WR, who is more on par with Lamb than in the Jeudy Convo. I still like Jeudy, still hopes he turns into something good. But think Aiyuk is on that track already with a better offense, better coach, and better QB.

I actually did see that, I was very impressed and I agree it seemed like Aiyuk was much better than people realized. It’s one of the reasons I’ve been shocked about how overwhelming the votes lean towards the JJ side. I honestly thought it would be near even. The PFF thing has me seriously considering taking this trade. Haha

[The.Big.Spank]

Jeudy. I find SF players wildly inconsistent. KS crafts game plans based on what the defense is giving him, just like BB in NE. So it seems to me that NE and SF are teams that have players that are best suited for best ball leagues. I think Jeudy will produce more consistently week in and week out making him, along with his talent, the better choice.

[Dynasty DeLorean]

Aiyuk for me. I know there is a segment about 1st year WR are GOLD. One thing they highlighted was that a WR that gets an 80 or better grade from PFF in the 1st year are near a lock to be a At least a WR2 or Better (from what I recall an WR that got an 80 or better rookie year all had a WR1 season besides one player) and not bust. Also I believe his YPG category was the same as Lambs, which is he has 50% to be a Great (multiple WR 1 seasons) fantasy WR and 69% good (multiple WR 2 seasons), something along those line. Put those things two together and to me you have a very undervalued WR, who is more on par with Lamb than in the Jeudy Convo. I still like Jeudy, still hopes he turns into something good. But think Aiyuk is on that track already with a better offense, better coach, and better QB.

Yeah, Aiyuk had a better year in terms of ypg and pff grade. Both stats are really solid indicators of how good a player is going to be. Granted Aiyuk just hit the 80 pff grade but he did hit it. Aiyuk is built thicker, has the 1st round draft capital, has the athleticism. If you’re placing a bet the smart bet is Aiyuk. I understand jeudy has more name cache though.

[yellowdart2448]

It’s laughable that people can say “Jeudy pretty easily”. They act like Jeudy was a stud last year and something hardly anyone has mentioned… Jeudy got the entire season without Sutton and still didn’t produce. Sutton’s return will have a similar impact that Kittle has to Aiyuk. SF has the better offense and guy calling plays. To me to it’s personal preference though ADP clearly shows Aiyuk is valued more going into this year. You can love Jeudy but you shouldn’t bash Aiyuk’s future outlook being worse…

[repkllrs]

We can all speculate on the effect Sutton has on Jeudy’s production.
We have seen the effect that Kittle has on Aiyuk.
Aiyuk clearly outperformed Jeudy year 1. I believe they both have the talent to be successful. I just expect Jeudy to garner significantly more targets for the next few years.