A multi player trade in SF-Tweaked Counter Offer-Accepted the offer

[dhanks91]

I would hold the Tua side. Although you can afford to move a QB for a RB I’m not sure Mixon would be my target.

[SteveMaddensShoes]

For everyone who says hold he countered by me taking out Fant and adding Logan Thomas and a 2nd while he removed Toney and added Hardman.

So

Tua
Keenan
Logan Thomas
2022 2nd

Get
Mixon
Claypool
Mark Andrews
Hardman

This seems about right to me.

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For everyone who says hold he countered by me taking out Fant and adding Logan Thomas and a 2nd while he removed Toney and added Hardman.

So

Tua
Keenan
Logan Thomas
2022 2nd

Get
Mixon
Claypool
Mark Andrews
Hardman

This seems about right to me.

Guess you accepted the offer but I like this offer even less.

[SteveMaddensShoes]

For everyone who says hold he countered by me taking out Fant and adding Logan Thomas and a 2nd while he removed Toney and added Hardman.

So

Tua
Keenan
Logan Thomas
2022 2nd

Get
Mixon
Claypool
Mark Andrews
Hardman

This seems about right to me.

Guess you accepted the offer but I like this offer even less.

Idk that therw is a huge difference in Hardman and Toney. I think there is a decent difference between Thomas and a 2nd vs Fant.

[abloom]

For everyone who says hold he countered by me taking out Fant and adding Logan Thomas and a 2nd while he removed Toney and added Hardman.

So

Tua
Keenan
Logan Thomas
2022 2nd

Get
Mixon
Claypool
Mark Andrews
Hardman

This seems about right to me.

Guess you accepted the offer but I like this offer even less.

Idk that therw is a huge difference in Hardman and Toney. I think there is a decent difference between Thomas and a 2nd vs Fant.

Fant is worth a second imo so thats giving up Thomas for free.

[SteveMaddensShoes]

Guess you accepted the offer but I like this offer even less.

Idk that therw is a huge difference in Hardman and Toney. I think there is a decent difference between Thomas and a 2nd vs Fant.

Fant is worth a second imo so thats giving up Thomas for free.

I gotcha. Sounds like we just disagree on Fant in a TEP.

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Idk that therw is a huge difference in Hardman and Toney. I think there is a decent difference between Thomas and a 2nd vs Fant.

Fant is worth a second imo so thats giving up Thomas for free.

I gotcha. Sounds like we just disagree on Fant in a TEP.

Its also SF which increases the value of rookie picks.

[SteveMaddensShoes]

Fant is worth a second imo so thats giving up Thomas for free.

I gotcha. Sounds like we just disagree on Fant in a TEP.

Its also SF which increases the value of rookie picks.

Oh yeah, for sure. But guys that have never stepped on the field like Frieirmuth is worth a mid to late 2nd. I don't see how you could think they are on the same page. Fant has been improving each year, flashed, going into year 3 and is still only 23 years old. He may be stuck with Teddy this year but he will get a QB upgrade soon. I still think he is worth around the 1.10 this year. After the QBs, the top 2 RBs and Chase and Pitts. I have him in the same tier as Waddle, Smith, Williams. They have never played a down of football in the NFL. The bust factor is still around 50% with them. Fant put up 180 points last year in my league at the toughest position to learn as a 22 year old with Lock throwing the ball. I might be living on hopes and dreams but the future looks bright to me.

There isn't a chance I would want to trade Fant for Logan Thomas and a 2nd. So it seemed like I was tweaking the trade in my direction. I don't see any difference in Hardman and Toney either. Both pretty bad WRs, both fast and athletic.

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I gotcha. Sounds like we just disagree on Fant in a TEP.

Its also SF which increases the value of rookie picks.

Oh yeah, for sure. But guys that have never stepped on the field like Frieirmuth is worth a mid to late 2nd. I don't see how you could think they are on the same page. Fant has been improving each year, flashed, going into year 3 and is still only 23 years old. He may be stuck with Teddy this year but he will get a QB upgrade soon. I still think he is worth around the 1.10 this year. After the QBs, the top 2 RBs and Chase and Pitts. I have him in the same tier as Waddle, Smith, Williams. They have never played a down of football in the NFL. The bust factor is still around 50% with them. Fant put up 180 points last year in my league at the toughest position to learn as a 22 year old with Lock throwing the ball. I might be living on hopes and dreams but the future looks bright to me.

There isn't a chance I would want to trade Fant for Logan Thomas and a 2nd. So it seemed like I was tweaking the trade in my direction. I don't see any difference in Hardman and Toney either. Both pretty bad WRs, both fast and athletic.

I wouldn't say Freiermuth is worth a mid second. I prefer toney over hardman only because he's atleast an unknown. Hardman I'm pretty sure will just never be fantasy relevant (though I do agree they are probably worth about the same)

[SteveMaddensShoes]

Its also SF which increases the value of rookie picks.

Oh yeah, for sure. But guys that have never stepped on the field like Frieirmuth is worth a mid to late 2nd. I don't see how you could think they are on the same page. Fant has been improving each year, flashed, going into year 3 and is still only 23 years old. He may be stuck with Teddy this year but he will get a QB upgrade soon. I still think he is worth around the 1.10 this year. After the QBs, the top 2 RBs and Chase and Pitts. I have him in the same tier as Waddle, Smith, Williams. They have never played a down of football in the NFL. The bust factor is still around 50% with them. Fant put up 180 points last year in my league at the toughest position to learn as a 22 year old with Lock throwing the ball. I might be living on hopes and dreams but the future looks bright to me.

There isn't a chance I would want to trade Fant for Logan Thomas and a 2nd. So it seemed like I was tweaking the trade in my direction. I don't see any difference in Hardman and Toney either. Both pretty bad WRs, both fast and athletic.

I wouldn't say Freiermuth is worth a mid second. I prefer toney over hardman only because he's atleast an unknown. Hardman I'm pretty sure will just never be fantasy relevant (though I do agree they are probably worth about the same)

I think you are going to have to give Toney and Hardman each a 3 year window due to their raw technical abilities. Hardman only has one left so I know what I will get with him a little sooner. That said he will also lose his value after this year if he doesn't show well.

[Space Cowboy]

They pulled Tua mid game to go with Fitzpatrick cause he has more arm strength......the beginning of the end right there.