Difference Between OBJ and Evans

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Difference Between OBJ and Evans

Postby jkid2 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:41 am

I have OBJ, but I'm thinking that I could trade down to Evans and maybe get something a good pick or something. What would be reasonable to ask for the difference between OBJ and Evans? A mid-1st? I really would like to get a 2020 1st, so maybe that?
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Re: Difference Between OBJ and Evans

Postby RB6 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:09 am

I don't think the gap is even close to a 1st.
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Re: Difference Between OBJ and Evans

Postby LMS123 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:19 am

call me crazy but I think I might almost rather have Evans at this point with OBJ's injuries and immaturity
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QB - M. Trubisky, B. Mayfield, L. Jackson, E. Stick
RB - T. Gurley, A. Jones, J. Mixon, K. Dixon, T. Montgomery, M. Gaskin, R. Armstead (taxi), J. Williams (taxi)
WR - AJ Green, S. Diggs, C. Davis, C. Kirk, R. Anderson, K. Cole, Z. Jones, T. Quinn, A. Wilson, E. Butler, T. Fulgham, S. Miller, S. Morgan, H. Renfrow, J. Hurd (taxi)
TE - G. Kittle, D. Njoku, C. Wilson
K - S. Gostkowski, A. Rosas
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Re: Difference Between OBJ and Evans

Postby The.Big.Spank » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:44 am

Unlike most, I am not as big a fan as most on those two. I rate them very even, each coming with baggage. I would want ODB more than Evans because I think Evans lacks elite receiver skill set and is more a product of opportunity than skills. ODB is explosive, both literally and figuratively, but I think his ceiling is higher.

Even if I was the Evans owner, I doubt I would add anything more than a late 2nd for ODB, but my thought is that they are even in value.
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Re: Difference Between OBJ and Evans

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:00 am

They're pretty close. I'd say Beckham = Evans + 2nd
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WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Brandin Cooks, Tyler Lockett, David Moore, Doug Baldwin
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Re: Difference Between OBJ and Evans

Postby Goddard » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:02 am

I'd want at least a mid 1st if I'm moving OBJ, but I guess I'm in the minority. Especially in this draft where a 2nd round pick doesn't seem very appealing.

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Re: Difference Between OBJ and Evans

Postby Dirty Mike&the Boys » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:17 pm

As an Evans owner I'd refuse to add in order to get OBJ at this stage. There was only a 1.5 ppg difference between the two, and I am much more optimistic of Winston than that of noodle-arm Eli.

Also, if you are the OBJ owner initiating the trade with the Evans owner, what makes you think they're going to add to their side of the deal? They aren't the ones initiating discussion. If the OBJ owner in my league came to me asking for Evans, I certainly wouldn't be adding to my side. I think this aspect is being severely overlooked in this thread atm.
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Re: Difference Between OBJ and Evans

Postby saw061600 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:44 pm

I'd rather Evans so wouldn't expect anything added from the Evans owner.
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TruB Lamar Mariota Dalton
Bell Chubb Sony Henry RoJo Miller Ajayi Foreman Gio Dixon Collins
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Kelce Gronk Jonnu Andrews
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Re: Difference Between OBJ and Evans

Postby Bjordan554207 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:02 am

Probably a 2nd this, but I wouldn’t really want a 2nd in this draft.

I’d probably try a ODB for Evans + a 1st next year
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Re: Difference Between OBJ and Evans

Postby jwb32 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:26 am

Pure talent gap is at least a mid-first. But Eli narrows the gap to no more than an early 2nd.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE, 1D/ST, 1K.
QBs- Rivers, Darnold
RBs- Mixon, Cook, Sanders, RoJo, Murray, Dexter W, McGuire,
WRs- OBJ, Hilton, Cooks, Boyd, Watkins, Crowder, Diontae Johnson, Cole, ESB, DMoore
TEs- Rudolph, McDonald, Fant, Waller, Warring
2020: 1, 2, 3

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Rodgers, Stafford, Foles, Manning
RBs- Cook, Guice, RoJo, Edwards, Ajayi, Ekeler,
WRs- Cooks, Boyd, Watkins, Miller, Coutee, Lee, RobbyA
TEs- Howard, McDonald, Hooper, Herndon
2019 - 1.04, 2.08 , 3.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr.
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Rivers,Trubisky
RBs- Cook, Drake, Coleman, Penny, Murray, Adams
WRs- Evans, Allen, Diggs, Boyd, Sutton, Shepard, Crowder, ZayJones, David Moore
TEs- Njoku,Herndon,RSJ
2019 - 1.12,3.02,3.09,3.10
2020 - 1,2

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