Rule Changes

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Rule Changes

Postby MyTeam » Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:11 am

How do you guys feel about rule/scoring changes on keeper leagues?

A little background. It is a keep 3 league that we throw in every 5 years. Last year we threw in and redrafted. We have a .5PPR league where QBs get 6 point TDs and .05 per yard. So every other position is nerfed by the .5 PPR and QBs have the yards advantage AND 6 per TD. It is also a 10 team league start 1QB, 2Rb, 2WR, 1FL, K, D. So it is a shallow starting 10 team league with QBs getting a huge advantage. (also defense is super over valued with 2 points per sack and scoring benefits so the league is just terrible)

I joined six years after the league started. I petitioned for this scoring to be more balanced. But was turned down because the league had been established for so long. I have tried to get more starting spots and more balanced scoring every offseason but I have been turned down each year.

During the season, I moved a guy I planned on keeping, M. Sanders (who averaged 13PPG), for another guy I planned on keeping, D. Prescott (who averaged over 37 PPG with this scoring). After making this move, they decided to look into balancing the scoring.

How much should I complain about moving my keeper and playing into the overvalued QB just for them to decide it is time to change the scoring?
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex

Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF

Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon

Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts

Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts

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Re: Rule Changes

Postby atlmoneyman » Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:57 am

A major change in keeper league scoring rules without unanimous consent from league members is ridiculous. Or at least multiple seasons of lead time to adjust to a major change.

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Re: Rule Changes

Postby MyTeam » Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:24 am

atlmoneyman wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:57 am A major change in keeper league scoring rules without unanimous consent from league members is ridiculous. Or at least multiple seasons of lead time to adjust to a major change.
I might try to push for the league to make the changes at a later date
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex

Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF

Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon

Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts

Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts

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Re: Rule Changes

Postby ThunderTung » Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:16 am

MyTeam wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:24 am
atlmoneyman wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:57 am A major change in keeper league scoring rules without unanimous consent from league members is ridiculous. Or at least multiple seasons of lead time to adjust to a major change.
I might try to push for the league to make the changes at a later date
Probably your best bet. for big changes we always make sure there's at least a season or two of buffer time. When we changed to ppr we did a slow transition. starting at .25 and working its way up to .7 over the course of 3 seasons.

I'd be pretty frustrated if I was in your situation, but at least a buffer like this would give you some sense of relief
12 man IDP 0.5 ppr

QB(1): Geno Smith
RB(2): ETN/Walker III
WR(2): Chase/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
FLEX(2): Stevenson/Garrett Wilson
K: Mcpherson
DL(2): T. Walker/Vea
LB(2): D. Long/TJ Edwards
DB(2) Dugger/Moehrig
FLEX: Kenneth Murray
IR: J. Hicks/Milano/Marcus Jones
Bench:
QB: Mac Jones/Bryce Young
RB: Zeke/D. Harris
WR: N. Brown/Demario Douglas/Bobby Trees/Parker/Tyler Scott
TE: Bellinger/Schultz
DL: Barrett/J. Davis/Yannick/
LB: Milano/Edwards/K. Murray/J. Smith
DB: Mathieu/Jonothan Owens

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Re: Rule Changes

Postby bsacks13 » Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:44 am

I think for a change like that there should be a unanimous vote. In my league we always put the changes up to a vote and if its not unanimous, it doesn't get passed. Players values can change greatly based on scoring changes.
Team 1
Behind The Wall Fantasy Football League
10 Team 1pt PPR. Dynasty League Format.
Gotham City Jokers: 2022 0-0
QB: P. Mahomes, K. Cousins
RB: J. Mixon, J.K. Dobbins, B. Hall, J. Taylor, S. Perine, R. Johnson
WR: C. Kupp, M. Pittman, J. Jeudy, M. Thomas, A. Pierce, A. Thielen, J. Hyatt
TE: T. Kelce, E. Engram, L. Musgrave
DST: BUF, LAC


Team 2
Graterford FFL
12 Team. Standard Scoring - Redraft - Up to 2 Keepers - Must have 2 Kickers and 2 DST rostered.
1 QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1K, 1DST
Jokers: 2022 0-0
QB: L. Jackson
RB: A. Ekeler, N. Chubb, J. Williams, D. Harris
WR:M. Pittman, D. Smith, M. Brown, E. Moore, J. Hyatt
TE: D. Goedart, C. Kmet, L. Musgrave
K: H. Butker, M. Gay
DST: DAL, NO

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Re: Rule Changes

Postby minnesota muscle » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:19 pm

For any rule change to be effective for the current (2021) season our league requires a 95% vote that includes the commissioner/founder of the league. Any scoring changes go into effect the following season (2022) and require a 65% vote.

Votes are counted for each year of league service. If an owner has been in the league for 6 seasons, he would get 6 votes. A rookie owner would get one vote. You also need to have 2 years of league service to even propose any rule changes.

Currently our 12 team league has 62 votes outstanding. It gets complicated for some, but keeps the riff raff to a minimum.


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