Julius Thomas
Re: Julius Thomas
Why does everyone assume he is going to get a big payday and somehow not be featured in the offense. The only teams that are going to be willing to pay this guy the big $$$ everyone keeps talking about are teams that will be willing to feature him. What team would bring in one of the highest paid tight ends in the league to have him block? If he doesn't stay in Denver because he goes to a higher bidder, it is safe to assume the higher bidder is expecting him to put up big numbers.
Re: Julius Thomas
Like Jets expecting big number from Decker ?pa rider wrote:[...]it is safe to assume the higher bidder is expecting him to put up big numbers.
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Re: Julius Thomas
I tend to agree. Outside of Tony Gonzalez it's hard to think of a top TE who switched teams and experienced similar success in a new place.Bes94 wrote:Like Jets expecting big number from Decker ?pa rider wrote:[...]it is safe to assume the higher bidder is expecting him to put up big numbers.
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Re: Julius Thomas
The Manning factor is going to give a lot of headaches to FF owners (and the Bronco's office).Niceguy wrote: ... If he's still in Denver with PM I like his upside but if not it's hard to get as excited about him. I was hoping somebody could convince me that he'll be good somewhere else because I desperately want to get better at TE and he is the only guy who seems possible to acquire.
Either JT leaves to another team
Stays in Denver with PM
Stays in Denver without PM
2 of those 3 options hurt his value. Because you are in the buyers market and if you see him as a sustainable TE1 regardless of team then a drop in his value is good for you.
To answer your question, JT has the skillset to be a good TE I don't think most people would argue that. But he might not be AS good as he is right now with PM in Denver. I would target him if any owners get jittery about the Denver situation in February.
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Re: Julius Thomas
There is always the franchise option, leaving Julius's plans moot. If they resign DT, isn't likely they would use it on him, as TE franchise numbers aren't as unfriendly as some other positions.
Regardless, I think JT is a top 10 TE at the least wherever he ends up, with top 3 upside. If u like him and want him, then the TE3 prices is fine to pay for him. If u can get him for less, that's just gravy. If u don't like him then don't bother trying to trade for him, unless u think you can upgrade him to Gronk or Graham.
Regardless, I think JT is a top 10 TE at the least wherever he ends up, with top 3 upside. If u like him and want him, then the TE3 prices is fine to pay for him. If u can get him for less, that's just gravy. If u don't like him then don't bother trying to trade for him, unless u think you can upgrade him to Gronk or Graham.
Re: Julius Thomas
What are the thoughts on a straight up JT a for Kelce? Too risky?
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Re: Julius Thomas
I own both and value JT much more. Kelce is criminally underutilized and with Fat Andy at the helm it is unlikely to change making him a boom or bust waste of talent.thedude30 wrote:What are the thoughts on a straight up JT a for Kelce? Too risky?
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Re: Julius Thomas
All I know is I can't trade him for nothing in my 16 team TE premium league
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Re: Julius Thomas
I find that almost unbelievable. I find it silly that with 15 other owners that nobody would have interest in that format.heydangle wrote:All I know is I can't trade him for nothing in my 16 team TE premium league
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Re: Julius Thomas
I wouldn't hate it, but I wouldn't do it. Andy Reid boggles my mind with his play calling as an avid KC fans.thedude30 wrote:What are the thoughts on a straight up JT a for Kelce? Too risky?
Re: Julius Thomas
Yeah, this is so true, butmit seems the value of both is up in the air right. I wonder if JT will go somewhere else and his value will drop, straight up upside and talent? Kelce or JT?Matticus wrote:I wouldn't hate it, but I wouldn't do it. Andy Reid boggles my mind with his play calling as an avid KC fans.thedude30 wrote:What are the thoughts on a straight up JT a for Kelce? Too risky?
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