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Breezy12 wrote:

ManuManu wrote:By the way, I was just offered Coby Fleener for him, but I declined. I'm trying to get Dwayne Allen instead. Are either of these deals good?

Dwayne Allen >>> Tim Wright

Coby Fleener <<<< Empty Roster Spot

I laughed.

ManuManu wrote:I think it's all of the above. Mankins makes a lot of money for a guy who's play is starting to slip. They have guys ready to take his spot. Meanwhile, Wright is a really good fit as a move TE, and perhaps could be Hernandez lite. The Pats got a 4th-round pick to boot.

My guess is that the pick was the central part of the deal, and Wright was a throw in.

Well Tim Wright owners.... Here's your chance to sell him rather than eventually dropping him. I see very little weekly startability for Wright in New England.

This move was made because the Pats got a pretty decent pick and cleared a ton of cap space. The Pats also have interior Offensive linemen they like who were blocked by Mankins. So ship off Mankins, get cap relief, add a good draft pick and grab a player who can play a few snaps at position of weakness. Its a win for New England but if anyone thinks Wright is the next Aaron Hernandez their crazy imo. He wont see the usage Hernandez saw and isn't as talented.

Jules wrote:

ManuManu wrote:I think it's all of the above. Mankins makes a lot of money for a guy who's play is starting to slip. They have guys ready to take his spot. Meanwhile, Wright is a really good fit as a move TE, and perhaps could be Hernandez lite. The Pats got a 4th-round pick to boot.

My guess is that the pick was the central part of the deal, and Wright was a throw in.

I wouldn't call him a throw-in, but certainly the pick was the centerpiece.

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Nice. For a guy I didn't really need but got dirt cheap (4.03 in rookie draft), sounds good!

ManuManu wrote:

Jules wrote:

ManuManu wrote:I think it's all of the above. Mankins makes a lot of money for a guy who's play is starting to slip. They have guys ready to take his spot. Meanwhile, Wright is a really good fit as a move TE, and perhaps could be Hernandez lite. The Pats got a 4th-round pick to boot.

My guess is that the pick was the central part of the deal, and Wright was a throw in.

I wouldn't call him a throw-in, but certainly the pick was the centerpiece.

You're right. In fact, someone just tweeted that Belichick has been trying to trade for Wright for weeks.

Wright is available in FA in my leagues, both teams.

I can't see a guy I want to drop for Wright, especially for Team 1. Team 2 hasnt drafted yet

badnewsbarrett wrote:Wright is available in FA in my leagues, both teams.

I can't see a guy I want to drop for Wright, especially for Team 1. Team 2 hasnt drafted yet

Nope. Not with those roster sizes. And for Team 2, I don't see Wright as a big touchdown guy, even in NE.

Nice. Just picked up T.Wright off waivers last week and nearly simultaneously made a move to acquire Martin in a different league. Happy to for D.Martin as a solid upgrade at the O-Line is exactly what he and TB needed. Have realistic expectations for Wright in NE. Not a huge deal but it definitely helps his stock. Curious to see how Belichick and Brady will include Wright.

Interesting to say the least.

Wright isn't very good, sucked in college, hasn't been great as a pro, and is more WR. So just b/c he switches teams right before the season starts, he has more value? And as the mythical New England "move TE?"

LMAO - you guys are smoking crack if you think he's going to take over Hernandez's role.

Jules wrote:

badnewsbarrett wrote:Wright is available in FA in my leagues, both teams.

I can't see a guy I want to drop for Wright, especially for Team 1. Team 2 hasnt drafted yet

Nope. Not with those roster sizes. And for Team 2, I don't see Wright as a big touchdown guy, even in NE.

There are a few good rosters in the league. Hoping someone drops a better player for him. I picked him up in a couple ppr leagues, dropped Allen Robinson off my redraft teams for him. You never know

badnewsbarrett wrote:dropped Allen Robinson off the teams for him. You never know

uhhhh....

DLFiend wrote:

badnewsbarrett wrote:dropped Allen Robinson off the teams for him. You never know

uhhhh....

Redraft teams I meant to say

DLFiend wrote:Wright isn't very good, sucked in college, hasn't been great as a pro.

I'm not sure what metrics you use to define "hasn't been great as a pro", but statistically speaking Wright's rookie season of 54-571-5 was one of the Top 12 rookie TE seasons of all time (in just 13 games**), believe it or not...

Rookie TEs with >500 yds and >5 TDs since 1970:

Rk Player Year Age Draft Tm Lg G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G Games Receiving
1 Keith Jackson 1988 23 1-13 PHI NFL 16 15 81 869 10.73 6 54.3
2 Charle Young 1973 22 1-6 PHI NFL 14 14 55 854 15.53 6 61.0
3 Terrance Williams 2013 24 3-74 DAL NFL 16 8 44 736 16.73 5 46.0
4 Cam Cleeland 1998 23 2-40 NOR NFL 16 16 54 684 12.67 6 42.8
5 John Carlson 2008 24 2-38 SEA NFL 16 9 55 627 11.40 5 39.2
6 Junior Miller 1980 23 1-7 ATL NFL 16 14 46 584 12.70 9 36.5
7 Bob Tucker 1970 25 NYG NFL 14 13 40 571 14.28 5 40.8
8 Tim Wright 2013 23 TAM NFL 16 8 54 571 10.57 5 35.7
9 Aaron Hernandez 2010 21 4-113 NWE NFL 14 7 45 563 12.51 6 40.2
10 Raymond Chester 1970 22 1-24 OAK NFL 14 12 42 556 13.24 7 39.7
11 Rob Gronkowski 2010 21 2-42 NWE NFL 16 11 42 546 13.00 10 34.1
12 Robert Awalt 1987 23 3-62 STL NFL 12 9 42 526 12.52 6 43.8

Wright's rookie year he logged in the 13th most receiving yards of any rookie TE since 1970...

Rookie TEs with >500 yds since 1970:

Rk Player Year Age Draft Tm Lg G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G
1 Jeremy Shockey 2002 22 1-14 NYG NFL 15 14 74 894 12.08 2 59.6
2 Keith Jackson 1988 23 1-13 PHI NFL 16 15 81 869 10.73 6 54.3
3 Charle Young 1973 22 1-6 PHI NFL 14 14 55 854 15.53 6 61.0
4 Terrance Williams 2013 24 3-74 DAL NFL 16 8 44 736 16.73 5 46.0
5 Cam Cleeland 1998 23 2-40 NOR NFL 16 16 54 684 12.67 6 42.8
6 Russ Francis 1975 22 1-16 NWE NFL 14 11 35 636 18.17 4 45.4
7 Ken Dilger 1995 24 2-48 IND NFL 16 13 42 635 15.12 4 39.7
8 John Carlson 2008 24 2-38 SEA NFL 16 9 55 627 11.40 5 39.2
9 Ozzie Newsome* 1978 22 1-23 CLE NFL 16 16 38 589 15.50 2 36.8
10 Junior Miller 1980 23 1-7 ATL NFL 16 14 46 584 12.70 9 36.5
11 Ferrell Edmunds 1988 23 3-73 MIA NFL 16 14 33 575 17.42 3 35.9
12 Bob Tucker 1970 25 NYG NFL 14 13 40 571 14.28 5 40.8
13 Tim Wright 2013 23 TAM NFL 16 8 54 571 10.57 5 35.7
14 Aaron Hernandez 2010 21 4-113 NWE NFL 14 7 45 563 12.51 6 40.2
15 Walter White 1975 24 3-78 KAN NFL 14 1 23 559 24.30 3 39.9
16 Raymond Chester 1970 22 1-24 OAK NFL 14 12 42 556 13.24 7 39.7
17 Tony Moeaki 2010 23 3-93 KAN NFL 15 15 47 556 11.83 3 37.1
18 Rob Gronkowski 2010 21 2-42 NWE NFL 16 11 42 546 13.00 10 34.1
19 Dustin Keller 2008 24 1-30 NYJ NFL 16 6 48 535 11.15 3 33.4
20 Pete Mitchell 1995 24 4-122 JAX NFL 16 5 41 527 12.85 2 32.9
21 Robert Awalt 1987 23 3-62 STL NFL 12 9 42 526 12.52 6 43.8
22 Tony McGee 1993 22 2-37 CIN NFL 15 15 44 525 11.93 0 35.0
23 Dwayne Allen 2012 22 3-64 IND NFL 16 16 45 521 11.58 3 32.6
24 Dan Ross 1979 22 2-30 CIN NFL 16 16 41 516 12.59 1 32.3
25 Mark Bavaro 1985 22 4-100 NYG NFL 16 16 37 511 13.81 4 31.9
26 Freddie Jones 1997 23 2-45 SDG NFL 13 8 41 505 12.32 2 38.8

**Jordan Reed would be on this list too if not for his injury-shortened rookie year last year where he logged in 45-499-3.

Julio wrote:

DLFiend wrote:Wright isn't very good, sucked in college, hasn't been great as a pro.

I'm not sure what metrics you use to define "hasn't been great as a pro", but statistically speaking Wright's rookie season of 54-571-5 was one of the Top 12 rookie TE seasons of all time (in just 13 games**), believe it or not...

Wright's rookie year he logged in the 13th most receiving yards of any rookie TE since 1970...

Rookie TEs with >500 yds since 1970:

Rk Player Year Age Draft Tm Lg G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G
1 Jeremy Shockey 2002 22 1-14 NYG NFL 15 14 74 894 12.08 2 59.6
2 Keith Jackson 1988 23 1-13 PHI NFL 16 15 81 869 10.73 6 54.3
3 Charle Young 1973 22 1-6 PHI NFL 14 14 55 854 15.53 6 61.0
4 Terrance Williams 2013 24 3-74 DAL NFL 16 8 44 736 16.73 5 46.0
5 Cam Cleeland 1998 23 2-40 NOR NFL 16 16 54 684 12.67 6 42.8
6 Russ Francis 1975 22 1-16 NWE NFL 14 11 35 636 18.17 4 45.4
7 Ken Dilger 1995 24 2-48 IND NFL 16 13 42 635 15.12 4 39.7
8 John Carlson 2008 24 2-38 SEA NFL 16 9 55 627 11.40 5 39.2
9 Ozzie Newsome* 1978 22 1-23 CLE NFL 16 16 38 589 15.50 2 36.8
10 Junior Miller 1980 23 1-7 ATL NFL 16 14 46 584 12.70 9 36.5
11 Ferrell Edmunds 1988 23 3-73 MIA NFL 16 14 33 575 17.42 3 35.9
12 Bob Tucker 1970 25 NYG NFL 14 13 40 571 14.28 5 40.8
13 Tim Wright 2013 23 TAM NFL 16 8 54 571 10.57 5 35.7
14 Aaron Hernandez 2010 21 4-113 NWE NFL 14 7 45 563 12.51 6 40.2
15 Walter White 1975 24 3-78 KAN NFL 14 1 23 559 24.30 3 39.9
16 Raymond Chester 1970 22 1-24 OAK NFL 14 12 42 556 13.24 7 39.7
17 Tony Moeaki 2010 23 3-93 KAN NFL 15 15 47 556 11.83 3 37.1
18 Rob Gronkowski 2010 21 2-42 NWE NFL 16 11 42 546 13.00 10 34.1
19 Dustin Keller 2008 24 1-30 NYJ NFL 16 6 48 535 11.15 3 33.4
20 Pete Mitchell 1995 24 4-122 JAX NFL 16 5 41 527 12.85 2 32.9
21 Robert Awalt 1987 23 3-62 STL NFL 12 9 42 526 12.52 6 43.8
22 Tony McGee 1993 22 2-37 CIN NFL 15 15 44 525 11.93 0 35.0
23 Dwayne Allen 2012 22 3-64 IND NFL 16 16 45 521 11.58 3 32.6
24 Dan Ross 1979 22 2-30 CIN NFL 16 16 41 516 12.59 1 32.3
25 Mark Bavaro 1985 22 4-100 NYG NFL 16 16 37 511 13.81 4 31.9
26 Freddie Jones 1997 23 2-45 SDG NFL 13 8 41 505 12.32 2 38.8

**Jordan Reed would be on this list too if not for his injury-shortened rookie year last year where he logged in 45-499-3.

Lof of statistical derp here - have you ever watched him play? He's not good.

i mean, Terrence Williams is on this list along with guys like the immortal Dustin Keller, John Carlson, and Tony Moeaki. It's a stretch, at best, to think that b/c he was some relevant last year after Mike Williams went down, that he is somehow a good TE. In reality or fantasy.

He only had numbers last year b/c TB literally had nobody else and V-Jax was triple covered all the time.

Wright's not good, guys. He's basically another Brandon LaFell who plays TE. Incredible, I know.