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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby alphaxray » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:40 pm

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ManuManu wrote:By the way, I was just offered Coby Fleener for him, but I declined. I'm trying to get Dwayne Allen instead. Are either of these deals good?
Dwayne Allen >>> Tim Wright

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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby dlf_jules » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:50 pm

ManuManu wrote:I think it's all of the above. Mankins makes a lot of money for a guy who's play is starting to slip. They have guys ready to take his spot. Meanwhile, Wright is a really good fit as a move TE, and perhaps could be Hernandez lite. The Pats got a 4th-round pick to boot.
My guess is that the pick was the central part of the deal, and Wright was a throw in.
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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby MARKinMI » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:57 pm

Well Tim Wright owners.... Here's your chance to sell him rather than eventually dropping him. I see very little weekly startability for Wright in New England.

This move was made because the Pats got a pretty decent pick and cleared a ton of cap space. The Pats also have interior Offensive linemen they like who were blocked by Mankins. So ship off Mankins, get cap relief, add a good draft pick and grab a player who can play a few snaps at position of weakness. Its a win for New England but if anyone thinks Wright is the next Aaron Hernandez their crazy imo. He wont see the usage Hernandez saw and isn't as talented.
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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby ManuManu » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:18 pm

Jules wrote:
ManuManu wrote:I think it's all of the above. Mankins makes a lot of money for a guy who's play is starting to slip. They have guys ready to take his spot. Meanwhile, Wright is a really good fit as a move TE, and perhaps could be Hernandez lite. The Pats got a 4th-round pick to boot.
My guess is that the pick was the central part of the deal, and Wright was a throw in.
I wouldn't call him a throw-in, but certainly the pick was the centerpiece.
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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby DLF3000 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:59 pm

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Nice. For a guy I didn't really need but got dirt cheap (4.03 in rookie draft), sounds good!
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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby dlf_jules » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:00 pm

ManuManu wrote:
Jules wrote:
ManuManu wrote:I think it's all of the above. Mankins makes a lot of money for a guy who's play is starting to slip. They have guys ready to take his spot. Meanwhile, Wright is a really good fit as a move TE, and perhaps could be Hernandez lite. The Pats got a 4th-round pick to boot.
My guess is that the pick was the central part of the deal, and Wright was a throw in.
I wouldn't call him a throw-in, but certainly the pick was the centerpiece.
You're right. In fact, someone just tweeted that Belichick has been trying to trade for Wright for weeks. :think:
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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby Bad News Barrett » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:01 pm

Wright is available in FA in my leagues, both teams.

I can't see a guy I want to drop for Wright, especially for Team 1. Team 2 hasnt drafted yet
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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby dlf_jules » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:04 pm

badnewsbarrett wrote:Wright is available in FA in my leagues, both teams.

I can't see a guy I want to drop for Wright, especially for Team 1. Team 2 hasnt drafted yet
Nope. Not with those roster sizes. And for Team 2, I don't see Wright as a big touchdown guy, even in NE.
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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby JFever » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:08 pm

Nice. Just picked up T.Wright off waivers last week and nearly simultaneously made a move to acquire Martin in a different league. Happy to for D.Martin as a solid upgrade at the O-Line is exactly what he and TB needed. Have realistic expectations for Wright in NE. Not a huge deal but it definitely helps his stock. Curious to see how Belichick and Brady will include Wright.

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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby DLFiend » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:22 pm

Wright isn't very good, sucked in college, hasn't been great as a pro, and is more WR. So just b/c he switches teams right before the season starts, he has more value? And as the mythical New England "move TE?"

LMAO - you guys are smoking crack if you think he's going to take over Hernandez's role.

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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby Bad News Barrett » Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:20 pm

Jules wrote:
badnewsbarrett wrote:Wright is available in FA in my leagues, both teams.

I can't see a guy I want to drop for Wright, especially for Team 1. Team 2 hasnt drafted yet
Nope. Not with those roster sizes. And for Team 2, I don't see Wright as a big touchdown guy, even in NE.
There are a few good rosters in the league. Hoping someone drops a better player for him. I picked him up in a couple ppr leagues, dropped Allen Robinson off my redraft teams for him. You never know
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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby DLFiend » Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:25 pm

badnewsbarrett wrote:dropped Allen Robinson off the teams for him. You never know
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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby Bad News Barrett » Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:35 pm

DLFiend wrote:
badnewsbarrett wrote:dropped Allen Robinson off the teams for him. You never know
uhhhh....
Redraft teams I meant to say
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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby Julio » Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:51 pm

DLFiend wrote:Wright isn't very good, sucked in college, hasn't been great as a pro.
I'm not sure what metrics you use to define "hasn't been great as a pro", but statistically speaking Wright's rookie season of 54-571-5 was one of the Top 12 rookie TE seasons of all time (in just 13 games**), believe it or not...

Rookie TEs with >500 yds and >5 TDs since 1970:

Rk Player Year Age Draft Tm Lg G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G Games Receiving
1 Keith Jackson 1988 23 1-13 PHI NFL 16 15 81 869 10.73 6 54.3
2 Charle Young 1973 22 1-6 PHI NFL 14 14 55 854 15.53 6 61.0
3 Terrance Williams 2013 24 3-74 DAL NFL 16 8 44 736 16.73 5 46.0
4 Cam Cleeland 1998 23 2-40 NOR NFL 16 16 54 684 12.67 6 42.8
5 John Carlson 2008 24 2-38 SEA NFL 16 9 55 627 11.40 5 39.2
6 Junior Miller 1980 23 1-7 ATL NFL 16 14 46 584 12.70 9 36.5
7 Bob Tucker 1970 25 NYG NFL 14 13 40 571 14.28 5 40.8
8 Tim Wright 2013 23 TAM NFL 16 8 54 571 10.57 5 35.7
9 Aaron Hernandez 2010 21 4-113 NWE NFL 14 7 45 563 12.51 6 40.2
10 Raymond Chester 1970 22 1-24 OAK NFL 14 12 42 556 13.24 7 39.7
11 Rob Gronkowski 2010 21 2-42 NWE NFL 16 11 42 546 13.00 10 34.1
12 Robert Awalt 1987 23 3-62 STL NFL 12 9 42 526 12.52 6 43.8

Wright's rookie year he logged in the 13th most receiving yards of any rookie TE since 1970...

Rookie TEs with >500 yds since 1970:

Rk Player Year Age Draft Tm Lg G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G
1 Jeremy Shockey 2002 22 1-14 NYG NFL 15 14 74 894 12.08 2 59.6
2 Keith Jackson 1988 23 1-13 PHI NFL 16 15 81 869 10.73 6 54.3
3 Charle Young 1973 22 1-6 PHI NFL 14 14 55 854 15.53 6 61.0
4 Terrance Williams 2013 24 3-74 DAL NFL 16 8 44 736 16.73 5 46.0
5 Cam Cleeland 1998 23 2-40 NOR NFL 16 16 54 684 12.67 6 42.8
6 Russ Francis 1975 22 1-16 NWE NFL 14 11 35 636 18.17 4 45.4
7 Ken Dilger 1995 24 2-48 IND NFL 16 13 42 635 15.12 4 39.7
8 John Carlson 2008 24 2-38 SEA NFL 16 9 55 627 11.40 5 39.2
9 Ozzie Newsome* 1978 22 1-23 CLE NFL 16 16 38 589 15.50 2 36.8
10 Junior Miller 1980 23 1-7 ATL NFL 16 14 46 584 12.70 9 36.5
11 Ferrell Edmunds 1988 23 3-73 MIA NFL 16 14 33 575 17.42 3 35.9
12 Bob Tucker 1970 25 NYG NFL 14 13 40 571 14.28 5 40.8
13 Tim Wright 2013 23 TAM NFL 16 8 54 571 10.57 5 35.7
14 Aaron Hernandez 2010 21 4-113 NWE NFL 14 7 45 563 12.51 6 40.2
15 Walter White 1975 24 3-78 KAN NFL 14 1 23 559 24.30 3 39.9
16 Raymond Chester 1970 22 1-24 OAK NFL 14 12 42 556 13.24 7 39.7
17 Tony Moeaki 2010 23 3-93 KAN NFL 15 15 47 556 11.83 3 37.1
18 Rob Gronkowski 2010 21 2-42 NWE NFL 16 11 42 546 13.00 10 34.1
19 Dustin Keller 2008 24 1-30 NYJ NFL 16 6 48 535 11.15 3 33.4
20 Pete Mitchell 1995 24 4-122 JAX NFL 16 5 41 527 12.85 2 32.9
21 Robert Awalt 1987 23 3-62 STL NFL 12 9 42 526 12.52 6 43.8
22 Tony McGee 1993 22 2-37 CIN NFL 15 15 44 525 11.93 0 35.0
23 Dwayne Allen 2012 22 3-64 IND NFL 16 16 45 521 11.58 3 32.6
24 Dan Ross 1979 22 2-30 CIN NFL 16 16 41 516 12.59 1 32.3
25 Mark Bavaro 1985 22 4-100 NYG NFL 16 16 37 511 13.81 4 31.9
26 Freddie Jones 1997 23 2-45 SDG NFL 13 8 41 505 12.32 2 38.8

**Jordan Reed would be on this list too if not for his injury-shortened rookie year last year where he logged in 45-499-3.

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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby DLFiend » Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:10 pm

Julio wrote:
DLFiend wrote:Wright isn't very good, sucked in college, hasn't been great as a pro.
I'm not sure what metrics you use to define "hasn't been great as a pro", but statistically speaking Wright's rookie season of 54-571-5 was one of the Top 12 rookie TE seasons of all time (in just 13 games**), believe it or not...

Wright's rookie year he logged in the 13th most receiving yards of any rookie TE since 1970...

Rookie TEs with >500 yds since 1970:

Rk Player Year Age Draft Tm Lg G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G
1 Jeremy Shockey 2002 22 1-14 NYG NFL 15 14 74 894 12.08 2 59.6
2 Keith Jackson 1988 23 1-13 PHI NFL 16 15 81 869 10.73 6 54.3
3 Charle Young 1973 22 1-6 PHI NFL 14 14 55 854 15.53 6 61.0
4 Terrance Williams 2013 24 3-74 DAL NFL 16 8 44 736 16.73 5 46.0
5 Cam Cleeland 1998 23 2-40 NOR NFL 16 16 54 684 12.67 6 42.8
6 Russ Francis 1975 22 1-16 NWE NFL 14 11 35 636 18.17 4 45.4
7 Ken Dilger 1995 24 2-48 IND NFL 16 13 42 635 15.12 4 39.7
8 John Carlson 2008 24 2-38 SEA NFL 16 9 55 627 11.40 5 39.2
9 Ozzie Newsome* 1978 22 1-23 CLE NFL 16 16 38 589 15.50 2 36.8
10 Junior Miller 1980 23 1-7 ATL NFL 16 14 46 584 12.70 9 36.5
11 Ferrell Edmunds 1988 23 3-73 MIA NFL 16 14 33 575 17.42 3 35.9
12 Bob Tucker 1970 25 NYG NFL 14 13 40 571 14.28 5 40.8
13 Tim Wright 2013 23 TAM NFL 16 8 54 571 10.57 5 35.7
14 Aaron Hernandez 2010 21 4-113 NWE NFL 14 7 45 563 12.51 6 40.2
15 Walter White 1975 24 3-78 KAN NFL 14 1 23 559 24.30 3 39.9
16 Raymond Chester 1970 22 1-24 OAK NFL 14 12 42 556 13.24 7 39.7
17 Tony Moeaki 2010 23 3-93 KAN NFL 15 15 47 556 11.83 3 37.1
18 Rob Gronkowski 2010 21 2-42 NWE NFL 16 11 42 546 13.00 10 34.1
19 Dustin Keller 2008 24 1-30 NYJ NFL 16 6 48 535 11.15 3 33.4
20 Pete Mitchell 1995 24 4-122 JAX NFL 16 5 41 527 12.85 2 32.9
21 Robert Awalt 1987 23 3-62 STL NFL 12 9 42 526 12.52 6 43.8
22 Tony McGee 1993 22 2-37 CIN NFL 15 15 44 525 11.93 0 35.0
23 Dwayne Allen 2012 22 3-64 IND NFL 16 16 45 521 11.58 3 32.6
24 Dan Ross 1979 22 2-30 CIN NFL 16 16 41 516 12.59 1 32.3
25 Mark Bavaro 1985 22 4-100 NYG NFL 16 16 37 511 13.81 4 31.9
26 Freddie Jones 1997 23 2-45 SDG NFL 13 8 41 505 12.32 2 38.8

**Jordan Reed would be on this list too if not for his injury-shortened rookie year last year where he logged in 45-499-3.
Lof of statistical derp here - have you ever watched him play? He's not good.

i mean, Terrence Williams is on this list along with guys like the immortal Dustin Keller, John Carlson, and Tony Moeaki. It's a stretch, at best, to think that b/c he was some relevant last year after Mike Williams went down, that he is somehow a good TE. In reality or fantasy.

He only had numbers last year b/c TB literally had nobody else and V-Jax was triple covered all the time.

Wright's not good, guys. He's basically another Brandon LaFell who plays TE. Incredible, I know.


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