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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby Julio » Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:15 pm

DLFiend wrote:Lof of statistical derp here - have you ever watched him play? He's not good.
I see...never let facts and statistics interfere with an unsupported opinion.
i mean, Terrence Williams is on this list along with guys like the immortal Dustin Keller, John Carlson, and Tony Moeaki. It's a stretch, at best, to think that b/c he was some relevant last year after Mike Williams went down, that he is somehow a good TE. In reality or fantasy.

He only had numbers last year b/c TB literally had nobody else and V-Jax was triple covered all the time.

Wright's not good, guys. He's basically another Brandon LaFell who plays TE. Incredible, I know.
Your comments do not address the contention I made that after having one of the statistically greatest seasons in NFL history at his position that Wright, in your words, "hasn't been a great pro". Regardless of the circumstances in which he seized the opportunity to succeed at the position, he was brought into the Tampa offense to catch the ball and that's what he did - at a 71% catch rate - and at a productivity level rarely seen by an NFL rookie TE. On top of all that, Wright only changed to the TE position in his rookie training camp. If that isn't the makings of a great pro, then what in your opinion is?

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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby WashingtonFever » Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:25 pm

Just like Trent Richardson is painful to watch play. Yet he is still ranked high because of his draft position and opportunity. He's like the opposite of Tim as Mr. Wright has actually done something when I guess he wasn't suppose to?

Will Timmy come through for a 2nd year and a row? Who knows...but I'm willing to watch and find out by getting him on my roster where possible (redraft or dynasty) and see what happens in the 1st few weeks to see how he is utilized. Could be solid trade bait for something else that might turn out to be a "risky" player.

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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby ManuManu » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:05 pm

Four catches on six targets for 43 yards. Not bad for a guy who is so new to the team.
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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby lostcause » Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:34 am

DLFiend wrote:
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DLFiend wrote:Wright isn't very good, sucked in college, hasn't been great as a pro.
I'm not sure what metrics you use to define "hasn't been great as a pro", but statistically speaking Wright's rookie season of 54-571-5 was one of the Top 12 rookie TE seasons of all time (in just 13 games**), believe it or not...

Wright's rookie year he logged in the 13th most receiving yards of any rookie TE since 1970...

Rookie TEs with >500 yds since 1970:

Rk Player Year Age Draft Tm Lg G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G
1 Jeremy Shockey 2002 22 1-14 NYG NFL 15 14 74 894 12.08 2 59.6
2 Keith Jackson 1988 23 1-13 PHI NFL 16 15 81 869 10.73 6 54.3
3 Charle Young 1973 22 1-6 PHI NFL 14 14 55 854 15.53 6 61.0
4 Terrance Williams 2013 24 3-74 DAL NFL 16 8 44 736 16.73 5 46.0
5 Cam Cleeland 1998 23 2-40 NOR NFL 16 16 54 684 12.67 6 42.8
6 Russ Francis 1975 22 1-16 NWE NFL 14 11 35 636 18.17 4 45.4
7 Ken Dilger 1995 24 2-48 IND NFL 16 13 42 635 15.12 4 39.7
8 John Carlson 2008 24 2-38 SEA NFL 16 9 55 627 11.40 5 39.2
9 Ozzie Newsome* 1978 22 1-23 CLE NFL 16 16 38 589 15.50 2 36.8
10 Junior Miller 1980 23 1-7 ATL NFL 16 14 46 584 12.70 9 36.5
11 Ferrell Edmunds 1988 23 3-73 MIA NFL 16 14 33 575 17.42 3 35.9
12 Bob Tucker 1970 25 NYG NFL 14 13 40 571 14.28 5 40.8
13 Tim Wright 2013 23 TAM NFL 16 8 54 571 10.57 5 35.7
14 Aaron Hernandez 2010 21 4-113 NWE NFL 14 7 45 563 12.51 6 40.2
15 Walter White 1975 24 3-78 KAN NFL 14 1 23 559 24.30 3 39.9
16 Raymond Chester 1970 22 1-24 OAK NFL 14 12 42 556 13.24 7 39.7
17 Tony Moeaki 2010 23 3-93 KAN NFL 15 15 47 556 11.83 3 37.1
18 Rob Gronkowski 2010 21 2-42 NWE NFL 16 11 42 546 13.00 10 34.1
19 Dustin Keller 2008 24 1-30 NYJ NFL 16 6 48 535 11.15 3 33.4
20 Pete Mitchell 1995 24 4-122 JAX NFL 16 5 41 527 12.85 2 32.9
21 Robert Awalt 1987 23 3-62 STL NFL 12 9 42 526 12.52 6 43.8
22 Tony McGee 1993 22 2-37 CIN NFL 15 15 44 525 11.93 0 35.0
23 Dwayne Allen 2012 22 3-64 IND NFL 16 16 45 521 11.58 3 32.6
24 Dan Ross 1979 22 2-30 CIN NFL 16 16 41 516 12.59 1 32.3
25 Mark Bavaro 1985 22 4-100 NYG NFL 16 16 37 511 13.81 4 31.9
26 Freddie Jones 1997 23 2-45 SDG NFL 13 8 41 505 12.32 2 38.8

**Jordan Reed would be on this list too if not for his injury-shortened rookie year last year where he logged in 45-499-3.
Lof of statistical derp here - have you ever watched him play? He's not good.

i mean, Terrence Williams is on this list along with guys like the immortal Dustin Keller, John Carlson, and Tony Moeaki. It's a stretch, at best, to think that b/c he was some relevant last year after Mike Williams went down, that he is somehow a good TE. In reality or fantasy.

He only had numbers last year b/c TB literally had nobody else and V-Jax was triple covered all the time.

Wright's not good, guys. He's basically another Brandon LaFell who plays TE. Incredible, I know.
So is Gronkowski, Hernandez, Jackson, Shockey, Bavaro and Newsome. It's cool - I see you cherry picking your stats and trolling. Nobody's mad, but I think you're losing your street cred. 8-)

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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby DLFiend » Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:24 am

DLFiend wrote:Wright isn't very good, sucked in college, hasn't been great as a pro, and is more WR. So just b/c he switches teams right before the season starts, he has more value? And as the mythical New England "move TE?"

LMAO - you guys are smoking crack if you think he's going to take over Hernandez's role.


:lol: Told you so.

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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby dlf_jules » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:57 am

You also told us this:
DLFiend wrote:Wright likely won't do anything this season - he's already too far behind. I wouldn't expect him to really matter too much at all, to be honest - Wright isn't really good.

This was a clear cash-dump by the Pats.

The move really only impacts Doug Martin who everybody is probably regretting not buying low on now.
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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby DLFiend » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:34 am

Can't predict injuries.

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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby heyfeefellskee » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:00 am

dlf_jules wrote:You also told us this:
DLFiend wrote:Wright likely won't do anything this season - he's already too far behind. I wouldn't expect him to really matter too much at all, to be honest - Wright isn't really good.

This was a clear cash-dump by the Pats.

The move really only impacts Doug Martin who everybody is probably regretting not buying low on now.
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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby doktor » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:02 am

Wow, I feel like somebody is getting ready to take their ball and go home...

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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby DLFiend » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:28 am

Can't predict injuries.

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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby DLFiend » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:29 am

You can, on the other hand, point out when a TE is an inferior athlete and had a fluke season and then return to tell everybody you were right despite copying and pasting some stats, likely without ever having watched Wright play.

*the more you know*

And let's face it - I've been right about Gio, Patterson, Wright and a ton of others - I know more than you.

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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby ajmyk » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:31 am

Wait, what do you think is value is right now, now that he's going to find himself a new team where he may start ?

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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby doktor » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:33 am

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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby doktor » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:33 am

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Re: Pats trade for TE Tim Wright???

Postby dlf_jules » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:35 am

DLFiend wrote:You can, on the other hand, point out when a TE is an inferior athlete and had a fluke season and then return to tell everybody you were right despite copying and pasting some stats, likely without ever having watched Wright play.

*the more you know*

And let's face it - I've been right about Gio, Patterson, Wright and a ton of others - I know more than you.
I think you're confusing me with someone else -- Julio, maybe? Here's the only thing I said about Wright in this thread:
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badnewsbarrett wrote:Wright is available in FA in my leagues, both teams.

I can't see a guy I want to drop for Wright, especially for Team 1. Team 2 hasnt drafted yet
Nope. Not with those roster sizes. And for Team 2, I don't see Wright as a big touchdown guy, even in NE.
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