Khiry Robinson

[ascherb]

I'm just calling my shot now. He's currently on waivers in my league (12-team league).

I believe he leads the Saints in rushing attempts, yards and TDs this year. Thomas is in the last year of his deal and Ingram is underwhelming.

Haven't heard much steam on him here, but with 2.04, I'm preying he is available in my rookie/FA draft.

[BlackOmega]

In a 16 team PPR league where you start 2 RB's {total roster 22/keep 15} I was able to draft him at 3.06 in our rookie/FA draft a month ago. Figured he was worth a flier as a possible breakout candidate

[joeday]

I'm just calling my shot now. He's currently on waivers in my league (12-team league).

I believe he leads the Saints in rushing attempts, yards and TDs this year. Thomas is in the last year of his deal and Ingram is underwhelming.

Haven't heard much steam on him here, but with 2.04, I'm preying he is available in my rookie/FA draft.

I'm pretty sure PT just signed an extension. Agree with Ingram though lol

[DYNOmite]

I'm just calling my shot now. He's currently on waivers in my league (12-team league).

I believe he leads the Saints in rushing attempts, yards and TDs this year. Thomas is in the last year of his deal and Ingram is underwhelming.

Haven't heard much steam on him here, but with 2.04, I'm preying he is available in my rookie/FA draft.

I'm pretty sure PT just signed an extension. Agree with Ingram though lol

Thomas is signed to a series of one year deals (2.4 this year, 2.1 in 2015 and 2.2 in 2016). The Saints only take an 800k hit if they cut him after the season.

The real threat to Khiry is the Saints drafting a good RB next year.

[sugbear65]

I'm right there with you, been holding him since last preseason, he looks good to me. Gotta keep expectations in check though, he looks like a solid inside runner with nice gas and power, but he don't catch the ball a lick, so I doubt he's ever the 3 down back. I'm a little surprised he is a FA in your league , is it shallow rosters? I can understand nobody have picking him up during the season, but I find it odd nobody would have picked him up as a stash right before FA ended.

[Matticus]

I like his ability, but the Saints will always be the RBBC. His current MAX is a 12 to 15 carries a game + goal line work in this RBBC hell hole , so I wouldn't break the bank on him (the mid 3rd rookie value seems about right).

[Pac_Eddy]

Khiry is actually has good hands, though they have never thrown to him in his limited reps in the regular season. If he's available, defo worth a stash.

[SlimJim958]

I'm just calling my shot now. He's currently on waivers in my league (12-team league).

I believe he leads the Saints in rushing attempts, yards and TDs this year. Thomas is in the last year of his deal and Ingram is underwhelming.

Haven't heard much steam on him here, but with 2.04, I'm preying he is available in my rookie/FA draft.

Pick him up...now!

[ericanadian]

I'm rolling with Cadet. I think the guy that catches the most passes is going to have the most value in that backfield. I think Thomas will probably be that guy, but Cadet would be my second guess.

[hankscorpio]

Khiry's a decent flier but Pierre Thomas has been underrated and outperformed every year for what seems like forever. I bet you can find posts from years ago saying he's terrible and about to be replaced, Ingram is going to take his job, he's worthless because or Sproles. And every year you're happy to flex him if it's a reasonably deep PPR league. For all you know he'll have 4 more Fred Jackson years.

[Krang]

I'm right there with you, been holding him since last preseason, he looks good to me. Gotta keep expectations in check though, he looks like a solid inside runner with nice gas and power, but he don't catch the ball a lick, so I doubt he's ever the 3 down back. I'm a little surprised he is a FA in your league , is it shallow rosters? I can understand nobody have picking him up during the season, but I find it odd nobody would have picked him up as a stash right before FA ended.

I still don't understand where people get this perception that he can't catch. He didn't ever get catches last year because he was never targeted. You know why he wasn't targeted? Because Thomas and Sproles combined for 173 targets, and Robinson was a rookie who barely played. But over his last two years at Texas A&M he recorded 60 total catches; not a massive total, but still, respectable for a college RB. One could argue that maybe the Saints won't use him in the passing game (which I still wouldn't necessarily agree with now that Sproles is gone, provided he gets substantial playing time), but people seem to dismiss him as being incapable of contributing there, and I really don't get it.

[MARKinMI]

I'm right there with you, been holding him since last preseason, he looks good to me. Gotta keep expectations in check though, he looks like a solid inside runner with nice gas and power, but he don't catch the ball a lick, so I doubt he's ever the 3 down back. I'm a little surprised he is a FA in your league , is it shallow rosters? I can understand nobody have picking him up during the season, but I find it odd nobody would have picked him up as a stash right before FA ended.

I still don't understand where people get this perception that he can't catch. He didn't ever get catches last year because he was never targeted. You know why he wasn't targeted? Because Thomas and Sproles combined for 173 targets, and Robinson was a rookie who barely played. But over his last two years at Texas A&M he recorded 60 total catches; not a massive total, but still, respectable for a college RB. One could argue that maybe the Saints won't use him in the passing game (which I still wouldn't necessarily agree with now that Sproles is gone, provided he gets substantial playing time), but people seem to dismiss him as being incapable of contributing there, and I really don't get it.

It's because Some people won't just say "I don't know" if they arent really familiar with a player.. Some just pick a side like its politics and invent debate points. The fact is nobody really knows What Khiry Robinson can or can't do right now. Sure Bill Parcells likened him to Curtis Martin and he had some juice late in the year but in New Orleans you have to be talented enough to pass a 1st round pick on the depth chart and even more talented to make Payton give you touches. I agree that saying he can't catch is just a pure guess. 60 catches over a few years is very nice production for a college Runner. The fact is that a rookie RB probably wouldnt be asked to protect Drew Brees in passing situations so not playing on passing downs would explain the lack of any targets last season.

Mike Tripplett Saints beat writer, has pegged him as a breakout candidate. http://espn.go.com/blog/new-orleans-sai ... y-robinson

The New Orleans Times-Picayune has written on a few occasions that Payton wants to run a more ball control offense http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/20 ... rebui.html

I've seen some mention about Pierre Thomas as a reason to shy away away from Robinson. Thomas averaged a mere 3.7 ypc last season and lets face it, nobody was playing the run when he was in. They were looking pass first on defense. Not exactly a good fit for a ball control offense. And the two year extension he just signed was to lower his cap number this season. I wouldnt be at all surprised if Thomas and Ingram aren't back in New Orleans in 2015.

I'm a believer in Robinson but i dont have any delusions that hes going to be this break out monster in 2014. I'm looking to see whether his usage improves in not only snaps or carries but in scheme. Will they just bring him in to thump or will they use his not yet explored passing game chops? I'm buying Khiry Robinson now with an eye on 2015 and I think we'll know what we have in Robinson this year. You just gotta look for the progression and whether he gains the trust of the coaching staff.

Edit: its hard to find his college stats from West Texas A&M but here you go

2012: http://www.gobuffsgo.com/custompages/FB ... M#TEAM.IND 38 catches 430 yards 4 rec TDs
2011: http://gobuffsgo.com/cumestats.aspx?pat ... &year=2011 22 catches 182 yards 2 rec TDs

[holy_stromboli]

I'll believe Payton about ball control offense when Drew retires. Own Khiry at your own risk -- they are just going to find new RBs to make part of the 3-headed monster.

[sugbear65]

I'm right there with you, been holding him since last preseason, he looks good to me. Gotta keep expectations in check though, he looks like a solid inside runner with nice gas and power, but he don't catch the ball a lick, so I doubt he's ever the 3 down back. I'm a little surprised he is a FA in your league , is it shallow rosters? I can understand nobody have picking him up during the season, but I find it odd nobody would have picked him up as a stash right before FA ended.

I still don't understand where people get this perception that he can't catch. He didn't ever get catches last year because he was never targeted. You know why he wasn't targeted? Because Thomas and Sproles combined for 173 targets, and Robinson was a rookie who barely played. But over his last two years at Texas A&M he recorded 60 total catches; not a massive total, but still, respectable for a college RB. One could argue that maybe the Saints won't use him in the passing game (which I still wouldn't necessarily agree with now that Sproles is gone, provided he gets substantial playing time), but people seem to dismiss him as being incapable of contributing there, and I really don't get it.

Didn't say he "can't" catch, said he "don't" catch the ball. He may have decent hands. But zero targets all regular season and only one reception in extended action in the playoffs tell me he isn't trusted in that role, at least not yet. And paying Pierre to come back is sorta a hint to me that he probably won't be expanding his receiving chops a whole heck of a lot this year. Look, I really like Khiry, I've been on him as long as if not longer than most and I'm hoping he makes me look smart. I'm not trying to down him one bit, I think he has talent. But I do think it's safe to say "he don't catch the ball a lick", because he doesn't. Could that change? Sure. But have we seen it or anything that makes you think will change? Not yet, not for me.

[dlf_jules]

2013:
Sean Payton: New Orleans Saints will stress run game
4th in pass attempts; 26th in rush attempts

2012:
Payton suspended, so less chatter
2nd in pass attempts; 29th in rush attempts

2011:
Don't think the New Orleans Saints aren't committed to running the ball
2nd in pass attempts; 20th in rush attempts


But they say the first step is admitting you have a problem, so maybe there's hope. Here's one from November 2013:
Payton blames self for pass-run imbalance