PPR is a farce!!!!!!

General talk about Dynasty Leagues.

What has PPR done for your fantasy football experience?

enhanced it immensely
41
75%
hmmm, haven't really noticed
10
18%
what the hell is ppr?!
4
7%
 
Total votes: 55

bjd5211
Legend
Legend
Posts: 5615
Joined: Wed May 03, 2017 11:50 am

Re: PPR is a farce!!!!!!

Postby bjd5211 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:45 pm

Ray Finkle wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:37 pm PPFDReception is superior to PPR, not PPFD. No need for RBs to be getting points for runs resulting in a first down.

Hell, take it a step further, maybe even PPFDR by a non RB is the way to go.
What would all that do to Damien Williams' FPPT though?

JTLoh
Role Player
Role Player
Posts: 449
Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:21 am

Re: PPR is a farce!!!!!!

Postby JTLoh » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:46 pm

Bronco Billy wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:35 pm I provided a counterexample in ppfd that had a similar counterintuitive outcome to demonstrate that ppfd scoring had inherent flaws as well.
My understanding of your "counter example" is missing the point, HOW?
It's not. ITS 100% DEAD ON BALLS ACCURATE!!!
JTLoh wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:35 pm You think PPFD is flawed because Player A gains 9.5 of the 10 yards to get a first down but doesn't get rewarded.
Your "counter example" is what was flawed. If you had any intelligence you'd get that.
Bronco Billy wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:35 pm MY POINT WAS THAT THERE IS NO INHERENT SUPERIORITY OF ONE SCORING SYSTEM OVER ANOTHER ,
While this may be the over all point you are trying to make, it's still WRONG.

PPR:
Guy makes a catch, runs backwards, gets tackled for a loss, still gets a POINT.
TOTALLY DUMB. No reason to give that player a point, EVER.

PPFD:
Your similar counter intuitive outcome example, ripped to shreds (see above) as having any validity.

So to date you have in no way demonstrated any inherent flaws in the PPFD scoring system. Thanks for playing but you lose.
Feel free to try to come up with some other lame example and I'll rip that to shreds as well.
CONTENTION 2
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks

CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson

ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints

Bronco Billy
Ring of Fame
Ring of Fame
Posts: 3733
Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:12 am

Re: PPR is a farce!!!!!!

Postby Bronco Billy » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:04 pm

JTLoh wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:46 pm
Bronco Billy wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:35 pm I provided a counterexample in ppfd that had a similar counterintuitive outcome to demonstrate that ppfd scoring had inherent flaws as well.
My understanding of your "counter example" is missing the point, HOW?
It's not. ITS 100% DEAD ON BALLS ACCURATE!!!
JTLoh wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:35 pm You think PPFD is flawed because Player A gains 9.5 of the 10 yards to get a first down but doesn't get rewarded.
Your "counter example" is what was flawed. If you had any intelligence you'd get that.
Bronco Billy wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:35 pm MY POINT WAS THAT THERE IS NO INHERENT SUPERIORITY OF ONE SCORING SYSTEM OVER ANOTHER ,
While this may be the over all point you are trying to make, it's still WRONG.

PPR:
Guy makes a catch, runs backwards, gets tackled for a loss, still gets a POINT.
TOTALLY DUMB. No reason to give that player a point, EVER.

PPFD:
Your similar counter intuitive outcome example, ripped to shreds (see above) as having any validity.

So to date you have in no way demonstrated any inherent flaws in the PPFD scoring system. Thanks for playing but you lose.
Feel free to try to come up with some other lame example and I'll rip that to shreds as well.
Wow. You is way way smart and I is just stoopid. You win.

JTLoh
Role Player
Role Player
Posts: 449
Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:21 am

Re: PPR is a farce!!!!!!

Postby JTLoh » Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:21 pm

First intelligent take you've made.
CONTENTION 2
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks

CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson

ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints

Bronco Billy
Ring of Fame
Ring of Fame
Posts: 3733
Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:12 am

Re: PPR is a farce!!!!!!

Postby Bronco Billy » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:52 am

JTLoh wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:21 pm First intelligent take you've made.
Thanks! Coming from a clearly superior entity like you, that really means a lot to me.

Jigga94
GOAT
GOAT
Posts: 16060
Joined: Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:38 pm

Re: PPR is a farce!!!!!!

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:10 am

Bronco Billy wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:52 am
JTLoh wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:21 pm First intelligent take you've made.
Thanks! Coming from a clearly superior entity like you, that really means a lot to me.
Get a freaking room holy sh1t

Lumps
Ring of Fame
Ring of Fame
Posts: 3380
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:25 pm
Location: San Diego, CA

Re: PPR is a farce!!!!!!

Postby Lumps » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:36 am

Jigga94 wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:10 am
Bronco Billy wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:52 am
JTLoh wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:21 pm First intelligent take you've made.
Thanks! Coming from a clearly superior entity like you, that really means a lot to me.
Get a freaking room holy sh1t
Hot
Image

Bronco Billy
Ring of Fame
Ring of Fame
Posts: 3733
Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:12 am

Re: PPR is a farce!!!!!!

Postby Bronco Billy » Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:04 am

Jigga94 wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:10 am
Bronco Billy wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:52 am
JTLoh wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:21 pm First intelligent take you've made.
Thanks! Coming from a clearly superior entity like you, that really means a lot to me.
Get a freaking room holy sh1t
Just bored. The league needs to get its teams out there and working.

User avatar
murphysxm
Degenerate
Degenerate
Posts: 7620
Joined: Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:10 am

Re: PPR is a farce!!!!!!

Postby murphysxm » Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:36 am

Every format has flaws, why are we not smart enough to acknowledge this point? A zero yard catch shouldn't give you a point. A 1 inch run also shouldn't give you a point.
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts

JTLoh
Role Player
Role Player
Posts: 449
Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:21 am

Re: PPR is a farce!!!!!!

Postby JTLoh » Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:21 am

murphysxm wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:36 am Every format has flaws, why are we not smart enough to acknowledge this point? A zero yard catch shouldn't give you a point. A 1 inch run also shouldn't give you a point.
A 1 inch run for a TD shouldn't give you points?

GENIUS!
CONTENTION 2
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks

CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson

ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints

User avatar
MEuRaH
Legend
Legend
Posts: 6777
Joined: Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:57 pm

Re: PPR is a farce!!!!!!

Postby MEuRaH » Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:06 pm

This 14 year old topic was revived just for fun. Should we lock it or do people really have more to add?
ULTIMATE RB GURUs
2021 RB Injury Guru: abloom "Akers will suffer an ACL injury in the preseason and does not play during the season."
2021 RB Guru: qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyuj & McCafsteez -- Winners of the Antonio Gibson Wager!

REAL RB GURUs:
CubfanAA - Anteaters - Ice - JJRules - TheNuts - jtk1234 - Bronco Billy - YouMightDieTryin - hockeyBjj - honcho55 - murphysxm - Patsfan86 - jman3134

Ray Finkle
Pro Bowler
Pro Bowler
Posts: 1294
Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:05 am

Re: PPR is a farce!!!!!!

Postby Ray Finkle » Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:29 pm

Why would you lock it? I mean, sure, the one poster is being a little rude but that’s nothing new to an internet forum.

JTLoh
Role Player
Role Player
Posts: 449
Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:21 am

Re: PPR is a farce!!!!!!

Postby JTLoh » Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:47 pm

Ray Finkle wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:29 pm Why would you lock it? I mean, sure, the one poster is being a little rude but that’s nothing new to an internet forum.
Right.
I may push the boundaries but no lines were crossed. Keep it spicy, not boring.
CONTENTION 2
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks

CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson

ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints

User avatar
sugbear65
Ring of Fame
Ring of Fame
Posts: 3848
Joined: Thu May 17, 2012 5:12 pm

Re: PPR is a farce!!!!!!

Postby sugbear65 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:57 pm

My spicy take- .25 points per carry is a better balancing system for PPR than PPFD. It gives any RBs carry an equal bonus, but not extreme enough to throw the balance out of whack. It evens the PPR RB out with the 25 carry but no catch RB, so they are more evenly matched. And it bumps all RBs enough that they score on par with, or slightly higher than, their respective WR counterparts.
The only maybe negative is that it does bump the Elite, top stud RBs up to a higher level than their WR counterparts. Guys like Cmac, Elliot, etc will be the top scorers in this type of format. But I find it feels more “old school” that way anyway, so I like it.

millworkguy
Captain
Captain
Posts: 765
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:09 pm
Location: Right here

Re: PPR is a farce!!!!!!

Postby millworkguy » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:24 pm

When its gets personal, I see a line being crossed, really no need to go there, just because you see things differently, doesn't mean you cant keep it civil.

Back to the topic at hand, I don't play PPFD and I'm not sure I want to be part.of a league that hoards rb's more then my existing leagues do already
PPR IDP Contract Cap:
ConF (16 Team)
DAF (16 team)
DW2- Co-Commish (16 Team)

PPR IDP Salary Cap:
Hardcore - LAC (32 team)
T1 - Commish (12 team)
T2 - Commish (16 Team)


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Ahrefs [Bot], Bing [Bot], cazzie33, Google [Bot] and 36 guests