What would all that do to Damien Williams' FPPT though?Ray Finkle wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:37 pm PPFDReception is superior to PPR, not PPFD. No need for RBs to be getting points for runs resulting in a first down.
Hell, take it a step further, maybe even PPFDR by a non RB is the way to go.
PPR is a farce!!!!!!
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My understanding of your "counter example" is missing the point, HOW?Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:35 pm I provided a counterexample in ppfd that had a similar counterintuitive outcome to demonstrate that ppfd scoring had inherent flaws as well.
It's not. ITS 100% DEAD ON BALLS ACCURATE!!!
Your "counter example" is what was flawed. If you had any intelligence you'd get that.
While this may be the over all point you are trying to make, it's still WRONG.Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:35 pm MY POINT WAS THAT THERE IS NO INHERENT SUPERIORITY OF ONE SCORING SYSTEM OVER ANOTHER ,
PPR:
Guy makes a catch, runs backwards, gets tackled for a loss, still gets a POINT.
TOTALLY DUMB. No reason to give that player a point, EVER.
PPFD:
Your similar counter intuitive outcome example, ripped to shreds (see above) as having any validity.
So to date you have in no way demonstrated any inherent flaws in the PPFD scoring system. Thanks for playing but you lose.
Feel free to try to come up with some other lame example and I'll rip that to shreds as well.
CONTENTION 2
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks
CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson
ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks
CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson
ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
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Wow. You is way way smart and I is just stoopid. You win.JTLoh wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:46 pmMy understanding of your "counter example" is missing the point, HOW?Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:35 pm I provided a counterexample in ppfd that had a similar counterintuitive outcome to demonstrate that ppfd scoring had inherent flaws as well.
It's not. ITS 100% DEAD ON BALLS ACCURATE!!!
Your "counter example" is what was flawed. If you had any intelligence you'd get that.
While this may be the over all point you are trying to make, it's still WRONG.Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:35 pm MY POINT WAS THAT THERE IS NO INHERENT SUPERIORITY OF ONE SCORING SYSTEM OVER ANOTHER ,
PPR:
Guy makes a catch, runs backwards, gets tackled for a loss, still gets a POINT.
TOTALLY DUMB. No reason to give that player a point, EVER.
PPFD:
Your similar counter intuitive outcome example, ripped to shreds (see above) as having any validity.
So to date you have in no way demonstrated any inherent flaws in the PPFD scoring system. Thanks for playing but you lose.
Feel free to try to come up with some other lame example and I'll rip that to shreds as well.
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First intelligent take you've made.
CONTENTION 2
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks
CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson
ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks
CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson
ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
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Get a freaking room holy sh1tBronco Billy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:52 amThanks! Coming from a clearly superior entity like you, that really means a lot to me.
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Re: PPR is a farce!!!!!!
Just bored. The league needs to get its teams out there and working.
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Every format has flaws, why are we not smart enough to acknowledge this point? A zero yard catch shouldn't give you a point. A 1 inch run also shouldn't give you a point.
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts
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A 1 inch run for a TD shouldn't give you points?
GENIUS!
CONTENTION 2
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks
CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson
ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks
CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson
ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints
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This 14 year old topic was revived just for fun. Should we lock it or do people really have more to add?
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Why would you lock it? I mean, sure, the one poster is being a little rude but that’s nothing new to an internet forum.
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Right.Ray Finkle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:29 pm Why would you lock it? I mean, sure, the one poster is being a little rude but that’s nothing new to an internet forum.
I may push the boundaries but no lines were crossed. Keep it spicy, not boring.
CONTENTION 2
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks
CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson
ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks
CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson
ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints
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My spicy take- .25 points per carry is a better balancing system for PPR than PPFD. It gives any RBs carry an equal bonus, but not extreme enough to throw the balance out of whack. It evens the PPR RB out with the 25 carry but no catch RB, so they are more evenly matched. And it bumps all RBs enough that they score on par with, or slightly higher than, their respective WR counterparts.
The only maybe negative is that it does bump the Elite, top stud RBs up to a higher level than their WR counterparts. Guys like Cmac, Elliot, etc will be the top scorers in this type of format. But I find it feels more “old school” that way anyway, so I like it.
The only maybe negative is that it does bump the Elite, top stud RBs up to a higher level than their WR counterparts. Guys like Cmac, Elliot, etc will be the top scorers in this type of format. But I find it feels more “old school” that way anyway, so I like it.
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When its gets personal, I see a line being crossed, really no need to go there, just because you see things differently, doesn't mean you cant keep it civil.
Back to the topic at hand, I don't play PPFD and I'm not sure I want to be part.of a league that hoards rb's more then my existing leagues do already
Back to the topic at hand, I don't play PPFD and I'm not sure I want to be part.of a league that hoards rb's more then my existing leagues do already
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