Aldrick Robinson, Rod Streater or Andrew Hawkinks
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Aldrick Robinson, Rod Streater or Andrew Hawkinks
Would you pick up Aldrick Robinson, Rod Streater or Andrew Hawkinks in place of Lance Kendricks? I already have V. Davis and Fleener at TE.
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Demaryius, Dez, Julio, Allen Robinson, Davante Adams, Josh Gordon, Britt, Brian Quick & Brian Tyms
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Re: Aldrick Robinson, Rod Streater or Andrew Hawkinks
Streater has at least 5 inches on both those guys.
Re: Aldrick Robinson, Rod Streater or Andrew Hawkinks
Streater and its not even close IMO
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12 team 22 man roster .5 ppr std 6 pt td for all. Start QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, K, ST
Goff, Mariota
Mack, K Hunt, J Adams, A Jones, J Richard, I Smith, E McGuire, Lynch, Ballage
M Thomas, Godwin, Fitzgerald, Agholor, Doctson, T Smith, D Parker, Kumerow
Kittle, Herndon
12 team 22 man roster .5 ppr std 6 pt td for all. Start QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, K, ST
Goff, Mariota
Mack, K Hunt, J Adams, A Jones, J Richard, I Smith, E McGuire, Lynch, Ballage
M Thomas, Godwin, Fitzgerald, Agholor, Doctson, T Smith, D Parker, Kumerow
Kittle, Herndon
Re: Aldrick Robinson, Rod Streater or Andrew Hawkinks
Streater's the guy who should have already been on a team, and he showed why in week one. That's the one I would trust most.... though Hawkins showed a lot and should also get strong consideration.
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Re: Aldrick Robinson, Rod Streater or Andrew Hawkinks
Streater. Aldrick is a reserve.
12 team//24 Man Roster//1QB,2RB,4WR,1TE,1RB/WR/TE/1K/1DST//0.5 point PPR//$350 Salary Cap (Salary per year/Years)
QB= Stafford (19/3), Luck (10/1), Locker (1/1),
RB= Forte (39/3), Murray (11/3), Mathews (34/3), Martin (10/1), Tate (11/3), Hunter (6/1), F. Jones (3/1)
WR= Green (21/3), Harvin (27/3), Maclin (33/3), Bowe (23/1) Thomas (11/3), Quick (5/1), Hill (10/1)
TE= Hernandez (19/1), Rudolph (8/1)
12 Team, non-PPR, All TDs 6, QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, TE, RB/WR/TE, DEF, K, 20 man rosters, cut to 14 for Rookie/FA Draft
QB: RG3, Newton, Wilson
RB: Richardson, Martin, Spiller, Charles, L. Miller, L. James,
WR: AJ Green, Julio Jones, Cruz, Marshall, Fitzgerald, Alexander, Hankerson,
TE: Gronk,
QB= Stafford (19/3), Luck (10/1), Locker (1/1),
RB= Forte (39/3), Murray (11/3), Mathews (34/3), Martin (10/1), Tate (11/3), Hunter (6/1), F. Jones (3/1)
WR= Green (21/3), Harvin (27/3), Maclin (33/3), Bowe (23/1) Thomas (11/3), Quick (5/1), Hill (10/1)
TE= Hernandez (19/1), Rudolph (8/1)
12 Team, non-PPR, All TDs 6, QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, TE, RB/WR/TE, DEF, K, 20 man rosters, cut to 14 for Rookie/FA Draft
QB: RG3, Newton, Wilson
RB: Richardson, Martin, Spiller, Charles, L. Miller, L. James,
WR: AJ Green, Julio Jones, Cruz, Marshall, Fitzgerald, Alexander, Hankerson,
TE: Gronk,
Re: Aldrick Robinson, Rod Streater or Andrew Hawkinks
Robinson, he has the skills. In dynasty he will be a better long-term play, he is built for the slot and will grow into that role. Not to mention in two years, Griffin will be light years ahead of Palmer.
10 Team PPR Dynasty (2012 Startup) 2018 1st 2019 2nd 2021 2nd
QB: Matt Stafford(Trade '22), Kirk Cousins(Trade '22), Baker Mayfield(Trade '22)
RB: Jonathan Taylor(Trade '21), ETN(trade '22), Breece Hall(1.02 '22), Deon Jackson (WW '23), Michael Carter (trade '23)
WR: Drake London (Trade '23), Jahan Dotson (Trade "23), Allen Robinson (Trade '22), Brandin Cooks (Trade '23), John Metchie III(2.02 "23), Rondale Moore(Trade '21), Kyle Philips(4.05 '22), Curtis Samuel (Trade '23)
TE: Kyle Pitts(Trade '22), Logan Thomas (WW "23)
LB: Logan Wilson (WW '22), Zaire Franklin (WW'23), Matt Judon (WW '23)
DB: M Fitzpatrick (WW '22), I Simmons (WW "23), Jamal Adams (WW "23)
DL: Chase Young(3.08/'20), Aidan Hutchinson (WW "23)
2023: 1.05, 1.06, 1.07, 1.08, 2.04
2024: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2
2025: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2
QB: Matt Stafford(Trade '22), Kirk Cousins(Trade '22), Baker Mayfield(Trade '22)
RB: Jonathan Taylor(Trade '21), ETN(trade '22), Breece Hall(1.02 '22), Deon Jackson (WW '23), Michael Carter (trade '23)
WR: Drake London (Trade '23), Jahan Dotson (Trade "23), Allen Robinson (Trade '22), Brandin Cooks (Trade '23), John Metchie III(2.02 "23), Rondale Moore(Trade '21), Kyle Philips(4.05 '22), Curtis Samuel (Trade '23)
TE: Kyle Pitts(Trade '22), Logan Thomas (WW "23)
LB: Logan Wilson (WW '22), Zaire Franklin (WW'23), Matt Judon (WW '23)
DB: M Fitzpatrick (WW '22), I Simmons (WW "23), Jamal Adams (WW "23)
DL: Chase Young(3.08/'20), Aidan Hutchinson (WW "23)
2023: 1.05, 1.06, 1.07, 1.08, 2.04
2024: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2
2025: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2
Re: Aldrick Robinson, Rod Streater or Andrew Hawkinks
In two years, it's very possible none of these guys will be playing with the same quarterback as right now, so I'm not inclined to look too far beyond my own opinion of each guy's talent. Hawkins had the most promising game of the three, imo, but I'd probably rather have Streater if I'm looking for a crapshoot chance at a #1 type guy (skill mixed with size and whatnot). The other two are guaranteed to never be anything more than a slot receiver thanks to their lack of size. It just depends on what type of WR you're looking to get out of it.John Paul wrote:Robinson, he has the skills. In dynasty he will be a better long-term play, he is built for the slot and will grow into that role. Not to mention in two years, Griffin will be light years ahead of Palmer.
Re: Aldrick Robinson, Rod Streater or Andrew Hawkinks
I have Streater deep on my bench in a keeper league just in case something happens with him. I'm betting on talent on the dynasty side of it though when it comes to measurables and collegiate production. Right now, the only thing Streater has on Robinson is height.
AR is 5'10" 184lbs and runs in the high 4.3 range with a good bench press. Plus he had an awesome college career at SMU in a spread offense. Only downside is he has small hands. That is why I project him as a slot/PPR kind of guy who gets a short/intermediate pass. Robinson agility is better too IMO, which again, projects him to slot receiver.
Streater is 6'3" 200 lbs and generally is looked at as an outside receiver. His best times are around Robinson's slowest times, mid 4.4s. Bench press is the same, not sure about hand size. Agility is a lot slower. Where Streater falls behind to me is the lack of collegiate production. That's not to say that he will not ultimately produce in Oakland, just saying it's a tip in favor to prior success.
RS is a decent short-term shoot for the moon WR; Robinson is the safer dynasty bet for me.
AR is 5'10" 184lbs and runs in the high 4.3 range with a good bench press. Plus he had an awesome college career at SMU in a spread offense. Only downside is he has small hands. That is why I project him as a slot/PPR kind of guy who gets a short/intermediate pass. Robinson agility is better too IMO, which again, projects him to slot receiver.
Streater is 6'3" 200 lbs and generally is looked at as an outside receiver. His best times are around Robinson's slowest times, mid 4.4s. Bench press is the same, not sure about hand size. Agility is a lot slower. Where Streater falls behind to me is the lack of collegiate production. That's not to say that he will not ultimately produce in Oakland, just saying it's a tip in favor to prior success.
RS is a decent short-term shoot for the moon WR; Robinson is the safer dynasty bet for me.
10 Team PPR Dynasty (2012 Startup) 2018 1st 2019 2nd 2021 2nd
QB: Matt Stafford(Trade '22), Kirk Cousins(Trade '22), Baker Mayfield(Trade '22)
RB: Jonathan Taylor(Trade '21), ETN(trade '22), Breece Hall(1.02 '22), Deon Jackson (WW '23), Michael Carter (trade '23)
WR: Drake London (Trade '23), Jahan Dotson (Trade "23), Allen Robinson (Trade '22), Brandin Cooks (Trade '23), John Metchie III(2.02 "23), Rondale Moore(Trade '21), Kyle Philips(4.05 '22), Curtis Samuel (Trade '23)
TE: Kyle Pitts(Trade '22), Logan Thomas (WW "23)
LB: Logan Wilson (WW '22), Zaire Franklin (WW'23), Matt Judon (WW '23)
DB: M Fitzpatrick (WW '22), I Simmons (WW "23), Jamal Adams (WW "23)
DL: Chase Young(3.08/'20), Aidan Hutchinson (WW "23)
2023: 1.05, 1.06, 1.07, 1.08, 2.04
2024: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2
2025: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2
QB: Matt Stafford(Trade '22), Kirk Cousins(Trade '22), Baker Mayfield(Trade '22)
RB: Jonathan Taylor(Trade '21), ETN(trade '22), Breece Hall(1.02 '22), Deon Jackson (WW '23), Michael Carter (trade '23)
WR: Drake London (Trade '23), Jahan Dotson (Trade "23), Allen Robinson (Trade '22), Brandin Cooks (Trade '23), John Metchie III(2.02 "23), Rondale Moore(Trade '21), Kyle Philips(4.05 '22), Curtis Samuel (Trade '23)
TE: Kyle Pitts(Trade '22), Logan Thomas (WW "23)
LB: Logan Wilson (WW '22), Zaire Franklin (WW'23), Matt Judon (WW '23)
DB: M Fitzpatrick (WW '22), I Simmons (WW "23), Jamal Adams (WW "23)
DL: Chase Young(3.08/'20), Aidan Hutchinson (WW "23)
2023: 1.05, 1.06, 1.07, 1.08, 2.04
2024: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2
2025: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2
Re: Aldrick Robinson, Rod Streater or Andrew Hawkinks
TBH I'd rather just own Streater because he's getting a ton of targets and I might be able to sell high on him. I don't think any of these guys are viable starters except in extremely deep leagues.
12 team//24 Man Roster//1QB,2RB,4WR,1TE,1RB/WR/TE/1K/1DST//0.5 point PPR//$350 Salary Cap (Salary per year/Years)
QB= Stafford (19/3), Luck (10/1), Locker (1/1),
RB= Forte (39/3), Murray (11/3), Mathews (34/3), Martin (10/1), Tate (11/3), Hunter (6/1), F. Jones (3/1)
WR= Green (21/3), Harvin (27/3), Maclin (33/3), Bowe (23/1) Thomas (11/3), Quick (5/1), Hill (10/1)
TE= Hernandez (19/1), Rudolph (8/1)
12 Team, non-PPR, All TDs 6, QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, TE, RB/WR/TE, DEF, K, 20 man rosters, cut to 14 for Rookie/FA Draft
QB: RG3, Newton, Wilson
RB: Richardson, Martin, Spiller, Charles, L. Miller, L. James,
WR: AJ Green, Julio Jones, Cruz, Marshall, Fitzgerald, Alexander, Hankerson,
TE: Gronk,
QB= Stafford (19/3), Luck (10/1), Locker (1/1),
RB= Forte (39/3), Murray (11/3), Mathews (34/3), Martin (10/1), Tate (11/3), Hunter (6/1), F. Jones (3/1)
WR= Green (21/3), Harvin (27/3), Maclin (33/3), Bowe (23/1) Thomas (11/3), Quick (5/1), Hill (10/1)
TE= Hernandez (19/1), Rudolph (8/1)
12 Team, non-PPR, All TDs 6, QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, TE, RB/WR/TE, DEF, K, 20 man rosters, cut to 14 for Rookie/FA Draft
QB: RG3, Newton, Wilson
RB: Richardson, Martin, Spiller, Charles, L. Miller, L. James,
WR: AJ Green, Julio Jones, Cruz, Marshall, Fitzgerald, Alexander, Hankerson,
TE: Gronk,
Re: Aldrick Robinson, Rod Streater or Andrew Hawkinks
Are you saying mid 4.4s is a slow 40 time? I would bet that's faster than most guys in the league. There really aren't too many guys running sub 4.4 40 times.John Paul wrote:I have Streater deep on my bench in a keeper league just in case something happens with him. I'm betting on talent on the dynasty side of it though when it comes to measurables and collegiate production. Right now, the only thing Streater has on Robinson is height.
AR is 5'10" 184lbs and runs in the high 4.3 range with a good bench press. Plus he had an awesome college career at SMU in a spread offense. Only downside is he has small hands. That is why I project him as a slot/PPR kind of guy who gets a short/intermediate pass. Robinson agility is better too IMO, which again, projects him to slot receiver.
Streater is 6'3" 200 lbs and generally is looked at as an outside receiver. His best times are around Robinson's slowest times, mid 4.4s. Bench press is the same, not sure about hand size. Agility is a lot slower. Where Streater falls behind to me is the lack of collegiate production. That's not to say that he will not ultimately produce in Oakland, just saying it's a tip in favor to prior success.
RS is a decent short-term shoot for the moon WR; Robinson is the safer dynasty bet for me.
Not really sure why bench press means all that much for a WR.
I like what I've seen so far out of Streater.
Re: Aldrick Robinson, Rod Streater or Andrew Hawkinks
Plus Aldrick has an awesome name. He sounds like some medieval warrior who will win a war for you. Bonus points for that. Three cheers for sir Aldrick!
Re: Aldrick Robinson, Rod Streater or Andrew Hawkinks
I think bench press is a great indicator as to how WRs will adapt to bump and run coverage.
I'm also saying that Streater's average time, which is closer to the 4.5 area, is nothing special. I imagine if we go through the NFL rosters for WRs that are 6'3" 200 lbs and run in the 4.5 range we would see how pedestrian those numbers are.
I am going to state this again though so it doesn't get lost: the biggest numbers are the ones at Streater's college level. He did as much in the preseason as he did his senior year. Major red flag.
I'm also saying that Streater's average time, which is closer to the 4.5 area, is nothing special. I imagine if we go through the NFL rosters for WRs that are 6'3" 200 lbs and run in the 4.5 range we would see how pedestrian those numbers are.
I am going to state this again though so it doesn't get lost: the biggest numbers are the ones at Streater's college level. He did as much in the preseason as he did his senior year. Major red flag.
10 Team PPR Dynasty (2012 Startup) 2018 1st 2019 2nd 2021 2nd
QB: Matt Stafford(Trade '22), Kirk Cousins(Trade '22), Baker Mayfield(Trade '22)
RB: Jonathan Taylor(Trade '21), ETN(trade '22), Breece Hall(1.02 '22), Deon Jackson (WW '23), Michael Carter (trade '23)
WR: Drake London (Trade '23), Jahan Dotson (Trade "23), Allen Robinson (Trade '22), Brandin Cooks (Trade '23), John Metchie III(2.02 "23), Rondale Moore(Trade '21), Kyle Philips(4.05 '22), Curtis Samuel (Trade '23)
TE: Kyle Pitts(Trade '22), Logan Thomas (WW "23)
LB: Logan Wilson (WW '22), Zaire Franklin (WW'23), Matt Judon (WW '23)
DB: M Fitzpatrick (WW '22), I Simmons (WW "23), Jamal Adams (WW "23)
DL: Chase Young(3.08/'20), Aidan Hutchinson (WW "23)
2023: 1.05, 1.06, 1.07, 1.08, 2.04
2024: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2
2025: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2
QB: Matt Stafford(Trade '22), Kirk Cousins(Trade '22), Baker Mayfield(Trade '22)
RB: Jonathan Taylor(Trade '21), ETN(trade '22), Breece Hall(1.02 '22), Deon Jackson (WW '23), Michael Carter (trade '23)
WR: Drake London (Trade '23), Jahan Dotson (Trade "23), Allen Robinson (Trade '22), Brandin Cooks (Trade '23), John Metchie III(2.02 "23), Rondale Moore(Trade '21), Kyle Philips(4.05 '22), Curtis Samuel (Trade '23)
TE: Kyle Pitts(Trade '22), Logan Thomas (WW "23)
LB: Logan Wilson (WW '22), Zaire Franklin (WW'23), Matt Judon (WW '23)
DB: M Fitzpatrick (WW '22), I Simmons (WW "23), Jamal Adams (WW "23)
DL: Chase Young(3.08/'20), Aidan Hutchinson (WW "23)
2023: 1.05, 1.06, 1.07, 1.08, 2.04
2024: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2
2025: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2
Re: Aldrick Robinson, Rod Streater or Andrew Hawkinks
I agree with the first point. The toughest thing for rookie wideouts to learn is how to fight off and defeat press coverage, and strength is an absolute necessity.John Paul wrote:I think bench press is a great indicator as to how WRs will adapt to bump and run coverage.
I am going to state this again though so it doesn't get lost: the biggest numbers are the ones at Streater's college level. He did as much in the preseason as he did his senior year. Major red flag.
On the second point, I would add that exceptions should be made for WRs who come out of running systems, like Demaryius Thomas, Stephen Hill, and, yes, Rod Streater.
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Re: Aldrick Robinson, Rod Streater or Andrew Hawkinks
I have to choose between Tamme. Gonzo and "Buzz Aldrick" for flex in PPR. Both TE are good targets of 2 great QB with heavy pass offense, but Robinson could be WR2 against Rams. Unless I bench LR who's playing Texans and I start all of them.
What do you think about ?
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Re: Aldrick Robinson, Rod Streater or Andrew Hawkinks
Probably Aldrick and Gonzo.Blackout wrote:I have to choose between Tamme. Gonzo and "Buzz Aldrick" for flex in PPR. Both TE are good targets of 2 great QB with heavy pass offense, but Robinson could be WR2 against Rams. Unless I bench LR who's playing Texans and I start all of them.
What do you think about ?
12 team//24 Man Roster//1QB,2RB,4WR,1TE,1RB/WR/TE/1K/1DST//0.5 point PPR//$350 Salary Cap (Salary per year/Years)
QB= Stafford (19/3), Luck (10/1), Locker (1/1),
RB= Forte (39/3), Murray (11/3), Mathews (34/3), Martin (10/1), Tate (11/3), Hunter (6/1), F. Jones (3/1)
WR= Green (21/3), Harvin (27/3), Maclin (33/3), Bowe (23/1) Thomas (11/3), Quick (5/1), Hill (10/1)
TE= Hernandez (19/1), Rudolph (8/1)
12 Team, non-PPR, All TDs 6, QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, TE, RB/WR/TE, DEF, K, 20 man rosters, cut to 14 for Rookie/FA Draft
QB: RG3, Newton, Wilson
RB: Richardson, Martin, Spiller, Charles, L. Miller, L. James,
WR: AJ Green, Julio Jones, Cruz, Marshall, Fitzgerald, Alexander, Hankerson,
TE: Gronk,
QB= Stafford (19/3), Luck (10/1), Locker (1/1),
RB= Forte (39/3), Murray (11/3), Mathews (34/3), Martin (10/1), Tate (11/3), Hunter (6/1), F. Jones (3/1)
WR= Green (21/3), Harvin (27/3), Maclin (33/3), Bowe (23/1) Thomas (11/3), Quick (5/1), Hill (10/1)
TE= Hernandez (19/1), Rudolph (8/1)
12 Team, non-PPR, All TDs 6, QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, TE, RB/WR/TE, DEF, K, 20 man rosters, cut to 14 for Rookie/FA Draft
QB: RG3, Newton, Wilson
RB: Richardson, Martin, Spiller, Charles, L. Miller, L. James,
WR: AJ Green, Julio Jones, Cruz, Marshall, Fitzgerald, Alexander, Hankerson,
TE: Gronk,
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