Who did it better: Mac Jones or Tom Brady

[The MAC Machine]

Who do you think will emerge as the better Patriots QB statistically by the time this is all said and done?

Tom Brady’s 1st season as starter
86.5 QBR
264/413 - 64%
2843 passing yards
18 TDs
12 INTs
11-3 record in 14 starts

Mac Jones 1st season as starter (rookie season)
QBR 92.5
332/491 - 68%
3540 passing yards
21 TDs
12 INTs
10-6 record in 16 starts

[Space Cowboy]

Miles Sanders.

[DynastyDrum30]

For the regular season, I’d give the edge to Mac. I’ve watched nearly every pats game this year. His final stats should’ve been a lot better. He’s had many beautiful deep balls that were dimes that his receivers dropped. The dude needs more weapons.

Im ignoring the postseason for now - what brady did in the superbowl against the greatest show on turf was special. We can revisit that though if the Pats win the Super Bowl this season.

[mild]

Who do you think will emerge as the better Patriots QB statistically by the time this is all said and done?

Tom Brady’s 1st season as starter
86.5 QBR
264/413 - 64%
2843 passing yards
18 TDs
12 INTs
11-3 record in 14 starts

Mac Jones 1st season as starter (rookie season)
QBR 92.5
332/491 - 68%
3540 passing yards
21 TDs
12 INTs
10-6 record in 16 starts

Different eras. Different offensive approaches. Not even remotely comparable.

But so long as you're asking for the "when all is said and done" part of things, I think we can safely write off Mac Jones getting 6 Superbowls over two decades of play on two seperate teams.

I dunno, just sounds a bit unlikely, innit. (With all due respect to your avatar and bias, of course.)

[CGW]

Can't compare. Qbs now, along with the guy they are throwing to, can't get looked at funny or its a penalty.

If I have to. Give me the guy with 6 super bowls.

[The MAC Machine]

A bunch of y’all are copping out from taking a hardline stance.

Compare your outlook on Mac Jones now to your outlook on Tom Brady during his first year starting.

Adjust your opinions based on how you’d weigh contextual differences such as team talent, production curves, etc….and take a stance. I know what my avatar looks like but It’s an open ended question.

[mild]

A bunch of y’all are copping out from taking a hardline stance.

Compare your outlook on Mac Jones now to your outlook on Tom Brady during his first year starting.

Adjust your opinions based on how you’d weigh contextual differences such as team talent, production curves, etc….and take a stance. I know what my avatar looks like but It’s an open ended question.

.... orrrrrr just ignore this thread, and get back to talking Dynasty fantasy, and accept that when Players on the field for other teams that are currently playing the game say "I'm not celebrating that sack, that's GOAT over there" that maybe they know what they're talking about.

The only real conversation we should be having about Tom Brady right now is whether he gets to be called the GOAT when we already have Jerry Rice. But that's far too interesting a conversation for this thread.

Mac Jones is good. Maybe lets not anoint him the second coming of the greatest QB to ever do it jusssssst yet. You -might- get disappointed and have to change your avatar again! Oh no!!

[The MAC Machine]

A bunch of y’all are copping out from taking a hardline stance.

Compare your outlook on Mac Jones now to your outlook on Tom Brady during his first year starting.

Adjust your opinions based on how you’d weigh contextual differences such as team talent, production curves, etc….and take a stance. I know what my avatar looks like but It’s an open ended question.

.... orrrrrr just ignore this thread, and get back to talking Dynasty fantasy, and accept that when Players on the field for other teams that are currently playing the game say "I'm not celebrating that sack, that's GOAT over there" that maybe they know what they're talking about.

The only real conversation we should be having about Tom Brady right now is whether he gets to be called the GOAT when we already have Jerry Rice. But that's far too interesting a conversation for this thread.

Mac Jones is good. Maybe lets not anoint him the second coming of the greatest QB to ever do it jusssssst yet. You -might- get disappointed and have to change your avatar again! Oh no!!

Are you saying that because you had no thoughts about Tom Brady coming out? Because if so, that’s OK too. I think it’s reasonable to have a conversation that reflects on and compares our expectations for players that hit the field for the first time, even if that means highlighting that maybe we were wrong at some point about a players trajectory. But heaven forbid we entertain THAT - let’s instead give our opinion on the question because we have nothing else to say about the actual question


I wasn’t anointing anyone.

[Ice]

Really

Tom Brady is the best QB All Time and that statement is barely debatable.

Mac Jones has had a good rookie season. I was very high on him entering the league but let’s not get ahead of ourselves here.

When and if Mac spends half of his life in the league then we can revisit.

[CGW]

A bunch of y’all are copping out from taking a hardline stance.

Compare your outlook on Mac Jones now to your outlook on Tom Brady during his first year starting.

Adjust your opinions based on how you’d weigh contextual differences such as team talent, production curves, etc….and take a stance. I know what my avatar looks like but It’s an open ended question.

Tom Brady is and will be the greatest Patriot QB ever. And oh yeah, as much as it pains me to say it, he's one of greatest QBs in the history of the NFL too (maybe the greatest.)

So no, I have no intentions of entertaining an argument about whether mac jones will be better than Brady. Check back once he wins his first superbowl and maybe we can start a conversation. Until then, be happy with what Mac is, a solid rookie who performed above expectations in a strong system for future success.

[Dynasty DeLorean]

Mac Jones is clearly better than Brady. Not even close.

[remedy29]

The best statistics you can give a QB is wins, Division titles and playoff wins.

Brady won the division his first year with a record of 11-3 in the regular season and won the Super Bowl that year.

I hate to say it, but Brady, and it's not remotely close.

[thebeast]

A bunch of y’all are copping out from taking a hardline stance.

Compare your outlook on Mac Jones now to your outlook on Tom Brady during his first year starting.

Adjust your opinions based on how you’d weigh contextual differences such as team talent, production curves, etc….and take a stance. I know what my avatar looks like but It’s an open ended question.

Your initial question asked who will emerge as the Patriots QB statistically when it's all said and done. With the 17 game season, expanded playoffs, and the way the game is played today Mac Jones certainly has a shot to have better statistics, it's not impossible. What is highly improbable is for Mac Jones to ever be in the same class of QB as Tom Brady when it's all said and done. Brady is legendary and arguably the GOAT of all sports GOATs. It's unlikely that Jones is ever in the conversation of all-time greats.

[_yeti]

How dare you throw dirt on the name of the GOAT. Repent

[_yeti]

Brady is legendary and arguably the GOAT of all sports GOATs.

Fixed it