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Lopsided Trades

Postby mls » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:04 am

There have been lopsided trades recently in my league. The 2022 1st overall pick went for a late 2022 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th. Now a trade went through for 2024 1st for Uzomah and DeAndre Carter. I am pretty liberal with trades but these seem lopsided. What are your opinions? I have not vetoed either of these.

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Re: Lopsided Trades

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:15 am

Are there any by-laws in place stating this isn't legal?

Can you prove collusion?

Have league dues been paid? (through 2024 - if trading out that far)

Does this person own a crystal ball or a DeLorean?

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Re: Lopsided Trades

Postby Pac_Eddy » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:15 am

Are those owners new to dynasty fantasy football?

Those are not good trades. I'd lean toward letting them learn the hard way though. I don't like the idea of vetoing outside of blatant collusion.
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Re: Lopsided Trades

Postby nathanq42 » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:49 am

all you can do is face palm and move on imo
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Re: Lopsided Trades

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:35 am

I think you need to speak to the owners privately. Get an explanation on their intentions with such moves. Why are you allowing 2024 picks to be moved? Trading 3 years out with no commitment? You should be getting financial commitment from teams moving future picks, if not, things like this are more prone to happening, and then you are stuck with an orphan nobody wants. The guy probably doesn't plan to be around in 2024, or perhaps even next year, and Uzomah and Carter are guys to help him down the stretch. That's my feeling on that one. The way I look at it, future picks aren't paid for yet. The players are, for that year you've paid in to. If you want to move assets from a future year, you need to pay for that year to do that. It's quite simple, and it works.
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Re: Lopsided Trades

Postby abloom » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:58 pm

2024 trade is fine really provided that dues are paid. Value of picks that far out is really reduced.

The other trade, well it's bad. But if both sides wanted to do the trade to make their team better that's that.

Unless there is collusion the trades should stand. If there is collusion the trade should be undone and the two wners replaced.
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Re: Lopsided Trades

Postby The MAC Machine » Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:07 pm

Im curious as to who people believe won the first trade.....
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Re: Lopsided Trades

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:39 pm

The MAC Machine wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:07 pm Im curious as to who people believe won the first trade.....
Clearly the guy getting the 1.01. Isn't that obvious?
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Re: Lopsided Trades

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:43 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:39 pm
The MAC Machine wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:07 pm Im curious as to who people believe won the first trade.....
Clearly the guy getting the 1.01. Isn't that obvious?
Idk I’d rather be getting the 6th round pick provided this is a 2 person league

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Re: Lopsided Trades

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:54 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:43 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:39 pm
The MAC Machine wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:07 pm Im curious as to who people believe won the first trade.....
Clearly the guy getting the 1.01. Isn't that obvious?
Idk I’d rather be getting the 6th round pick provided this is a 2 person league
Yeah. For sure if it's a 1 person league, then it's not even close. In fact, if it's a 1 person league, I am willing to bet this is collusion.
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Re: Lopsided Trades

Postby palevermilion » Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:42 pm

Definitely need context to answer anything. Is it a newer league with owners who are newer to dynasty? I've definitely done trades like the 1st one before I knew better. So if it's a newer league and/or a newer owner, personally I wouldn't worry about. Let me people learn. If it's a free league amongst friends, I wouldn't worry about it. The fact that you have listed out to 7 rounds also makes me wonder as to league format. Is it just a keeper league and not a dynasty? Like, do owners only keep 5 players? How many teams is this league? A late 2022 1st in an 8 team league is completely different than a late 2022 1st in a 16 team league.

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Re: Lopsided Trades

Postby CubfanAA » Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:15 pm

palevermilion wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:42 pm Definitely need context to answer anything. Is it a newer league with owners who are newer to dynasty? I've definitely done trades like the 1st one before I knew better. So if it's a newer league and/or a newer owner, personally I wouldn't worry about. Let me people learn. If it's a free league amongst friends, I wouldn't worry about it. The fact that you have listed out to 7 rounds also makes me wonder as to league format. Is it just a keeper league and not a dynasty? Like, do owners only keep 5 players? How many teams is this league? A late 2022 1st in an 8 team league is completely different than a late 2022 1st in a 16 team league.
yeah, league format in that 1.01 trade makes a huge difference. I could definitely see a lot of formats where it's a very even trade....I used to be in a casual 10 team 4 player keeper league with pretty deep rosters that the other members referred to as dynasty. Getting all those extra picks would actually be a pretty big advantage in a league like that. When it's mixed rookie/vet draft it really changes the draft pick values.

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Re: Lopsided Trades

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:16 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:54 pm
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:43 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:39 pm

Clearly the guy getting the 1.01. Isn't that obvious?
Idk I’d rather be getting the 6th round pick provided this is a 2 person league
Yeah. For sure if it's a 1 person league, then it's not even close. In fact, if it's a 1 person league, I am willing to bet this is collusion.
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Re: Lopsided Trades

Postby mls » Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:52 am

It is a dynasty IDP league with 50+ roster with taxi squad and IR. Even the guy that got the 1st pick couldn't believe it went through. I'm just not going to vote on the other trade. While I don't agree with it I don't want to be "that guy." Thanks for the insight.

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Re: Lopsided Trades

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:49 am

Context is always important.

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RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, J.Cook, K.Hunt, Foreman, Z.White, McKinnon, S.Tucker
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