Who is YOUR current 1.01 in Dynasty

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Re: Who is YOUR current 1.01 in Dynasty

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:06 am

Ice wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:10 am 12 team no SF position Startup; I wouldn't want 1.1 but if I had to.....

Deebo (The new Target Monster) Still really young at 25.

Special consideration to
Lamb
Chase

Both really high upside and very young with solid QB's.
I know we aren't supposed to debate, but if a guy wasn't worth a 1st round pick 10 games ago, I don't see how he could be worth 1.01 now. I normally like your WR thoughts but come on. And he is already back to being injured. :shock:
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Re: Who is YOUR current 1.01 in Dynasty

Postby Ice » Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:17 am

SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:06 am
Ice wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:10 am 12 team no SF position Startup; I wouldn't want 1.1 but if I had to.....

Deebo (The new Target Monster) Still really young at 25.

Special consideration to
Lamb
Chase

Both really high upside and very young with solid QB's.
I know we aren't supposed to debate, but if a guy wasn't worth a 1st round pick 10 games ago, I don't see how he could be worth 1.01 now. I normally like your WR thoughts but come on. And he is already back to being injured. :shock:
Pretty sure this thread is about an individuals 1.1 asset not who would actually be drafted 1.1. Like I said, I would move back but Deebo is way better than many think averaging over 22 points per game. Targets 12,9,10,13,9,11,9. He already has 3 150 yard game.

In an actual 1.1 start up draft;Taylor would be the 1.1 winner by a wide margin as a worthy group think candidate.
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Re: Who is YOUR current 1.01 in Dynasty

Postby murphysxm » Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:28 am

CGW wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:35 am
cazzie33 wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:31 am I took Swift but in the Najee vs JT debate in PPR it's splitting hairs who is more talented as I see Harris easily more talented as a receiver and he doesn't have a Nyheim that relegates him to the bench in the passing game.

Std format Taylor has the better line and home run speed capability. Those holes against the JETS were ridiculous but still have to have the burst & speed to take 'em to the house ... JT 's got it !

Different topic but always have felt ypc avg is over used to prove who is more talented. Like most things it's subjectively in the eye of the beholder but getting yds beyond what's blocked if you could quantify it is a more accurate assessment for me. But that's another debate
Pretty sure JT leads the NFL in rushing yards over expected as well. He does have a much better line creating these opportunities, but I have a hard time imagining Harris in the Harris over JT debate in really any category.
What sets them apart to me is JT's patience. His Lev Bell in his prime content to wait for a hole to explode and never look back. That is alo s a credit to the line play, but is a rare talent.
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Re: Who is YOUR current 1.01 in Dynasty

Postby hoos89 » Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:46 am

People saying AJB...are you at all nervous about that offense without Henry? I'm a big fan of him (and have him in one of my two leagues) but have to say I'm a bit nervous. Also worry that injuries are going to be a theme for him.
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Re: Who is YOUR current 1.01 in Dynasty

Postby ArrylT » Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:37 pm

Ice wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:17 am
Pretty sure this thread is about an individuals 1.1 asset not who would actually be drafted 1.1. Like I said, I would move back but Deebo is way better than many think averaging over 22 points per game. Targets 12,9,10,13,9,11,9. He already has 3 150 yard game.

In an actual 1.1 start up draft;Taylor would be the 1.1 winner by a wide margin as a worthy group think candidate.
That is correct.

Who is your 1.01.

If you want to come at it from the 1st guy you'd draft even if it isnt the actual 1.01 in a startup draft thats a-ok. Or the guy you'd spend the most $$ in a Dynasty Auction.

I am not really looking to build a consensus 1.01 or convince anyone who should be 1.01 more as I am interested in all the different ideas for the 1.01 at this time of volatility. I want an individuals gut choice - not what they feel pressured or guided into taking.

So if someone wants to put Derrick Henry or Kyler Murray or Chris Godwin or Travis Kelce as their 1.01 - go right ahead.

Speak about your 1.01 - not who you think the consensus 1.01 should be.

Also if I missed one let me know by quoting the post so I can see it.
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Re: Who is YOUR current 1.01 in Dynasty

Postby ArrylT » Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:38 pm

Current Nominees so far:

QB:

Josh Allen (SF)
Tom Brady (format not mentioned - assume multiple years left in career)
Patrick Mahomes (SF)

RB

Najee Harris
Christian McCaffrey
DeAndre Swift
Jonathan Taylor
Jonathan Taylor (Std scoring non ppr)

WR

AJ Brown
Ja'Marr Chase
Tyreek Hill
Justin Jefferson
DK Metcalf
Deebo Samuel

TE:

Kyle Pitts (TE Prem)
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Re: Who is YOUR current 1.01 in Dynasty

Postby gogobradyarm » Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:25 pm

Tier of players I could see at 1.01: JT, Najee, Swift, Chase, Jefferson, Pitts.
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Re: Who is YOUR current 1.01 in Dynasty

Postby Anteaters » Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:23 pm

Najee is my #2 RB in dynasty. And 3rd is not really close.
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Re: Who is YOUR current 1.01 in Dynasty

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:46 pm

hoos89 wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:46 pm
DynastyKing23 wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:22 pm How has no one mentioned najee yet?

Top 3 rb would be JT, najee, Swift

Top 3 wr would be chase, AJB, lamb

I'm not a huge Jefferson fan and think he'll slowly come down in rankings as a backend wr1. Nothing agaisnt his talent just too many other guys stepping up.
Because Najee is older than JT and has 3.7 YPC
Yeah, no contest.

JT>Najee and not really close right now.
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Re: Who is YOUR current 1.01 in Dynasty

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:47 pm

gogobradyarm wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:25 pm Tier of players I could see at 1.01: JT, Najee, Swift, Chase, Jefferson, Pitts.
Genuinely curious how anyone could have Najee, who is a year older, less explosive, and totally volume dependent over JT. QB situation also becomes a huge question mark next year. Not saying you do, I just don't see how he's in the same tier as JT. He has to be a tier below IMO.
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Re: Who is YOUR current 1.01 in Dynasty

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:55 pm

Really interested to see what happens with Mahomes when that contract kicks in next season.
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Re: Who is YOUR current 1.01 in Dynasty

Postby Orenthal Shames » Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:05 am

hoos89 wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 12:21 am
DynastyKing23 wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:39 pm
He's still 23 and has plenty of years left. His YPC average has a lot to do with scheme and such a poor oline. When you get swarmed byb3 defenders behind the line it isn't usually gonna end well. Ypc is also slightly misleading IMO as short yardage, 2 yard TD runs,and end of game clock killing runs all deflate that number.

I can't argue that najee is more talented then Taylor but this game isn't 100% on talent. Give me the guys that score the most points. Najee is and will be the bell cow for 4 or 5 years and that line should improve. Add in his pass catching abilities and you have the potential for a top 5 rb for years to come.

Real world nfl give me taylor. Fantasy football it's closer and I can't blame anyone for taking 1 over the other.
I counted...Najee has 7 rushes that could be considered "end of game clock killing runs" and 2 rushing TDs below 5 yards. 9 out of 128. Pretty sure that's not why his YPC is bleep. I just don't see how anyone could prefer Harris to Taylor...Taylor's way more talented, way more efficient, and not tied to a decrepit QB. Oh and Taylor is also younger.

Harris really just feels like a volume play right now. He's averaging 25.3 targets + rushes per game. Taylor's getting 18.6....and averaging more PPG.
Agree. He isn't an elite RB talent. He is being propped up by massive volume, much like Fournette was as a Jaguar, James Connor his breakout year as a Steeler, David Montgomery and Josh Jacobs. He's on pace for 400+ this season.

I view him as a similar talent to these guys, so he'd be a sell if he can net top 5 RB value after the season.

I also have a hard time with AJB as the WR1 for nearly the opposite reasons. He is an elite talent, but he isn't changing teams anytime soon. Tennessee remains one of the run heaviest teams schematically, so for him to hit that WR1 ceiling, you'd have to bank on a philosophical offense change.
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Re: Who is YOUR current 1.01 in Dynasty

Postby BellCow » Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:27 am

Still CMC for me. Injuries are not predictable although we want to believe they are. The guy is 25 and an absolute cheat code in your lineup.

His "value" is much lower now but he's THE guy you want on a win now or short rebuild team.

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Re: Who is YOUR current 1.01 in Dynasty

Postby Cameron Giles » Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:41 am

BellCow wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:27 am Still CMC for me. Injuries are not predictable although we want to believe they are. The guy is 25 and an absolute cheat code in your lineup.

His "value" is much lower now but he's THE guy you want on a win now or short rebuild team.
Injuries aren't predictable, but CMC's value was built on 200+ rush, 100+ reception workload.

Not only that, but he was playing damn near every down. From 2018-19, he played 90% or more of the snaps 26 out of 32 times. Plus, of those 26, he played 100% of the snaps 14 times.

He's not a really big back either, so his struggles with durability aren't too surprising given how much Carolina was running him into the ground. There's talk that the Panthers want to reduce his usage going forward to see if it keeps him healthier.

Taking him at 1.01 right now seems incredibly risky, especially when passing on younger RBs. I really don't see him returning to that type of usage again.

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Re: Who is YOUR current 1.01 in Dynasty

Postby ArrylT » Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:08 pm

Still a few names I would not be surprised to be mentioned. I'll list them later on in the season if no one lists it as their 1.01.
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