Rookie WR Production 2021

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Re: Rookie WR Production 2021

Postby gpaok » Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:44 am

Thanks for the update DD!!! This thread (just as last years) are great!

Seems like ARSB might be a sneaky pickup if someone drops him in a keeper league.

I think an interesting question is what makes lower ypp players end up being studs, was it depth chart or QB/coach factors.
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QB: Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen
RB: Nick Chubb, J.K. Dobbins, Travis Etienne, Rhamondre Stevenson, Rachaad White, Khalil Herbert, Tank Bigsby, Jaylen Warren, Jerome Ford, Kyren Williams, Tank Bigsby
WR: Amari Cooper, CeeDee Lamb, Ja’Marr Chase, Calvin Ridley, Tank Dell
TE:T.J. Hockenson, Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson

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Re: Rookie WR Production 2021

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:30 am

gpaok wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:44 am
I think an interesting question is what makes lower ypp players end up being studs, was it depth chart or QB/coach factors.
That’s a good question. Off the top of my head my assumption would be they are mostly later round draft picks or injuries. They’re all listed on the first page so we could see what similarities or differences they have.

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Re: Rookie WR Production 2021

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Sun Nov 21, 2021 1:21 pm

Elijah Moore will be going up.

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Re: Rookie WR Production 2021

Postby Mjvb5 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 1:38 pm

Another ho hum solid showing for waddle and smith

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Re: Rookie WR Production 2021

Postby Lesman » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:14 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:08 pm So we're just burying Terrace Marshall already as a rookie with Sam Darnold? I'd buy more shares if I hadn't already
Sure, as long as you are getting clearance aisle pricing. I just bought TM for Alex Collins.

He's still worth the dart throw based on his measurables and college production. I don't expect Cam to change anything, and it might take a Robby Anderson or DJ Moore injury for him to actually show out. My roster is big enough that I can stash him away for a couple of years to see how things pan out.
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QB: TLaw, Watson
RB: ETN, Bijan, A. Jones, AJ Dillon, Charbs, Rochon
WR: AJ Brown, ARSB, G Wilson, London, Pickens, Bateman, Mims
TE: Njoku, Kmet

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Re: Rookie WR Production 2021

Postby Mjvb5 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:17 pm

Lesman wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:14 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:08 pm So we're just burying Terrace Marshall already as a rookie with Sam Darnold? I'd buy more shares if I hadn't already
Sure, as long as you are getting clearance aisle pricing. I just bought TM for Alex Collins.

He's still worth the dart throw based on his measurables and college production. I don't expect Cam to change anything, and it might take a Robby Anderson or DJ Moore injury for him to actually show out. My roster is big enough that I can stash him away for a couple of years to see how things pan out.
Yup, if I can get out on him for anywhere close to what the buy in price was I'm taking it and running

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Re: Rookie WR Production 2021

Postby NeverEndingRebuild » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:45 pm

Nice to see Elijah Moore will be moving up this week. It sucks that the Lamar injury prevented us from seeing what Bateman could do as the potential WR1 for BAL this week.

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Re: Rookie WR Production 2021

Postby Jigga94 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:22 pm

Lesman wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:14 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:08 pm So we're just burying Terrace Marshall already as a rookie with Sam Darnold? I'd buy more shares if I hadn't already
Sure, as long as you are getting clearance aisle pricing. I just bought TM for Alex Collins.

He's still worth the dart throw based on his measurables and college production. I don't expect Cam to change anything, and it might take a Robby Anderson or DJ Moore injury for him to actually show out. My roster is big enough that I can stash him away for a couple of years to see how things pan out.
I know we are in the WR rookie production thread, and the numbers never lie, but I wasn't expecting anything from him this year anyways. I only ever drafted him late 2nd as well, but had him in the mid 2nd range with E. Moore. Glad I didn't have the choice or I might have picked the wrong guy lol

But yeah I'm still stashing him and hoping for a better QB and the possibility he becomes WR2 on the depth chart

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Re: Rookie WR Production 2021

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:24 pm

Update For Week 11

67+ Rookie Reception Yards per Game
90% Stud
90% Good or better
Ja'Marr Chase [86] 8-) [PFF GRADE: 76]


57-66 Rookie Reception Yards per Game
50% Stud
57-69% Good or better
DeVonta Smith [60] [PFF GRADE: 77]


47-56 Rookie Reception Yards per Game
38% Stud
57-69% Good or better
Jaylen Waddle [56][PFF GRADE: 74]
Rashod Bateman [53][PFF GRADE: 71]


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Less than 47
2-10% Stud
4-24% Good or better
Elijah Moore [46] :P [PFF GRADE: 73]
Kadarius Toney [43][PFF GRADE: 73]
Rondale Moore [37][PFF GRADE: 75]
Amon-Ra St. Brown [32][PFF GRADE: 66]
Nico Collins [28][PFF GRADE: 62]
Dez Fitzpatrick [17][PFF GRADE: 63]
Josh Palmer [14][PFF GRADE: 62]
Terrace Marshall Jr. [12][PFF GRADE: 55]
Antoine Wesley [12]
Anthony Schwartz [11][PFF GRADE: 59]
Trinity Benson [10]
+23 others

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*Stud = 3+ seasons of 1k+ receiving yards
*Good = 3+ seasons 750+ receiving yards
*Based on 1995-2015 sample.
*Minimum of 9 games played.
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Re: Rookie WR Production 2021

Postby NeverEndingRebuild » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:21 pm

Nice touch on the PFF grades here!

Amazing, as usual!

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Re: Rookie WR Production 2021

Postby honcho55 » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:43 am

Interesting how chalk this is coming out, that’s pretty much my preseason rankings on these guys, with the exception of Marshall who should be top of that last tier. Arguments could be made for QB play/coaching for him but I’d argue it’s just as rough or close for a handful of others.
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QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
TE. T Kelce, Pitts, Albert O, D Parham, J O’Shaunessy

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Re: Rookie WR Production 2021

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:31 pm

Update For Week 12

67+ Rookie Reception Yards per Game
90% Stud
90% Good or better
Ja'Marr Chase [82]


57-66 Rookie Reception Yards per Game
50% Stud
57-69% Good or better
Jaylen Waddle [63]
DeVonta Smith [57]


47-56 Rookie Reception Yards per Game
38% Stud
57-69% Good or better
Rashod Bateman [50]


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Less than 47
2-10% Stud
4-24% Good or better
Elijah Moore [46]
Kadarius Toney [43]
Rondale Moore [37]
Amon-Ra St. Brown [32]
Nico Collins [28]
Dez Fitzpatrick [16]
Josh Palmer [15]
Terrace Marshall Jr. [12]
Antoine Wesley [12]
Anthony Schwartz [11]
Trinity Benson [10]
+ 17 others

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*Stud = 3+ seasons of 1k+ receiving yards
*Good = 3+ seasons 750+ receiving yards
*Based on 1995-2015 sample.
*Minimum of 9 games played.
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Re: Rookie WR Production 2021

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:14 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:36 am Guys who could seize a substantial role on their team and bump up their numbers are Amon-Ra St. Brown [5+ targets in last 5 of 6 games] and Elijah Moore [6+ targets in past 4 games]. Their depth charts are just a whole bunch of nothing. I could see them as late-season risers.
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Re: Rookie WR Production 2021

Postby Pyro_6138 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:56 pm

Wasn't super in love with Waddle but I ended up with him at 2.02 in a 10 team. I've been pretty happy with what I've seen so far.
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QB- Josh Allen, Garoppalo, Wentz, Pickett
RB- Swift, Josh Jacobs, CEH, Breece, Penny, Pacheco, Josh Kelley, Drake, Keontay Ingram, Hubbard
WR- Godwin, DJM, Cooks, Aiyuk Jeudy, Juju, Reynolds, Pickens,
TE- Andrews, Ertz, Jordan
DL- Leonard Williams, Payne, Ojulari, Franklin-Myers, Tuitt, Greenard,
LB- Shaq Thompson, Anthony Walker, Myles Jack, JOK, Kirksey, Oweh, Ernest Jones, Kyzir White
DB - Jessie Bates, Micah Hyde, Jalen Thompson, Quandre Diggs, Moehrig, Kareem Jackson, Gardner-Johnson

10 Team 4 Keepers IDP, 2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2WR/TE, 2IDP Flex, 2DL, 3LB 2DB

QB - Mayfield, Carr, Zach Wilson
RB - Chubb, Najee Harris, Ronald Jones, Michel
WR - Hopkins, OBJ, Claypool, Pittman, Sutton, Chase, Rondale Moore
TE - Kittle, Higbee
DL/ LB - Bosa, Shaq Barrett, Reddick, Chubb, Jabril Peppers, Landry, Jaelan Phillips
DB - Byard, Bates, Horn

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Re: Rookie WR Production 2021

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:33 pm

Waddle poised to break 100 receptions as a rookie. Only Boldin has done that. YPR not ideal but doesn’t appear too concerning.

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