I guess this means you'll never have to worry about owning Pitts.
Buy/Sell options 2021 in season
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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season
Could be and why I said “maybe timing just never works out.”Hottoddies wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:34 amI guess this means you'll never have to worry about owning Pitts.
12 team. PPR. QB pass td = 6
Starters: QB(1) FLEX (RB/WR/TE)(2) RB(2) WR(3) TE(1)
QB: AR, DJones
RB: Gibby, Charb, KMiller, Akers
WR: Chase, Lamb, G Wilson, Tank Dell, Burks, Mimsy, Tutu, W Robinson, Tucker, Wicks, RBell
TE: DNjoku, Hunter Henry
Draft Picks: 2024: 1.2, 1.5, 1.11. 2025: 1st Round (2) 2nd Round (1), 2026: 1st Round (1) 2nd Round (2)
Starters: QB(1) FLEX (RB/WR/TE)(2) RB(2) WR(3) TE(1)
QB: AR, DJones
RB: Gibby, Charb, KMiller, Akers
WR: Chase, Lamb, G Wilson, Tank Dell, Burks, Mimsy, Tutu, W Robinson, Tucker, Wicks, RBell
TE: DNjoku, Hunter Henry
Draft Picks: 2024: 1.2, 1.5, 1.11. 2025: 1st Round (2) 2nd Round (1), 2026: 1st Round (1) 2nd Round (2)
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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season
Thoughts on Deebo?
Est '17 12 Team 1PPR 4-Pass 6-Rush/Recieve TD
Start QB RB RB WR WR TE FX FX SF K DL LB DB
Champion 2021.
Geno, Tlaw, M Jones, D.Carr, White
JT, A Jones, Dobbins,Monty,D.Harris, Reyonds
Dillon,Kelley, Warren, Miller, Hill, Penny, Rivers
Diggs, AJB, Jefferson, Chase, Claypool, Juedy, Deebo,WanDale, Mingo, Boutte
Kittle, Andrews,Njoku
Moody
Superflex Est 19' - - Tiered PPR
QB RB RB WR WR WR/RB TE FX SF K D
Dak, Wilson, Watson
Henry, Chubb, ETN, Swift, Gus, Strong, Ford, Spiller, Chandler, Spears
Godwin, DJM , JJ,Kenaan, AJB, Lockett, Austin, Palmer, Boutte
Andrews, Goedert, Juwan, Woods
Start QB RB RB WR WR TE FX FX SF K DL LB DB
Champion 2021.
Geno, Tlaw, M Jones, D.Carr, White
JT, A Jones, Dobbins,Monty,D.Harris, Reyonds
Dillon,Kelley, Warren, Miller, Hill, Penny, Rivers
Diggs, AJB, Jefferson, Chase, Claypool, Juedy, Deebo,WanDale, Mingo, Boutte
Kittle, Andrews,Njoku
Moody
Superflex Est 19' - - Tiered PPR
QB RB RB WR WR WR/RB TE FX SF K D
Dak, Wilson, Watson
Henry, Chubb, ETN, Swift, Gus, Strong, Ford, Spiller, Chandler, Spears
Godwin, DJM , JJ,Kenaan, AJB, Lockett, Austin, Palmer, Boutte
Andrews, Goedert, Juwan, Woods
Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season
I really want to say sell high, but I'm holding. He's a young WR1 in a high scoring offense and he's seeing downfield targets now too. I wasnt a believer, but I'm becoming one.
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I feel similar. I want to say sell, but I feel like you have to hold outside of great offers, so much upside still even if he doesn’t maintain absurd beginning
12 team. PPR. QB pass td = 6
Starters: QB(1) FLEX (RB/WR/TE)(2) RB(2) WR(3) TE(1)
QB: AR, DJones
RB: Gibby, Charb, KMiller, Akers
WR: Chase, Lamb, G Wilson, Tank Dell, Burks, Mimsy, Tutu, W Robinson, Tucker, Wicks, RBell
TE: DNjoku, Hunter Henry
Draft Picks: 2024: 1.2, 1.5, 1.11. 2025: 1st Round (2) 2nd Round (1), 2026: 1st Round (1) 2nd Round (2)
Starters: QB(1) FLEX (RB/WR/TE)(2) RB(2) WR(3) TE(1)
QB: AR, DJones
RB: Gibby, Charb, KMiller, Akers
WR: Chase, Lamb, G Wilson, Tank Dell, Burks, Mimsy, Tutu, W Robinson, Tucker, Wicks, RBell
TE: DNjoku, Hunter Henry
Draft Picks: 2024: 1.2, 1.5, 1.11. 2025: 1st Round (2) 2nd Round (1), 2026: 1st Round (1) 2nd Round (2)
Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season
Got lucky & acquired Deebo just before big day from owner in rebuild who got tired of his being injured. Dude is just a baller who may play too hard for his own good(like Kittle) but he's a rb playing wr that when healthy can be wr1 material. Gets plenty of targets & a few rushing attempts so floor should be high excepting when he gets injured in the early stages of a game.
Gave up '23 1st & 2nd plus cpl of backups for Samuel & M. Gordon (Denver) . Defending champ (us) needed depth @ RB for bye weeks / injury and project Deebo to step up our wr group. Have D.Parker as our 4th wr now along w/ Keenan & D. Adams.
Trade partner is banking on our collapse next year and don't blame him not wanting '22 picks. Currently undefeated in 1st place so next year picks going to be late. All our key guys are late 20's except Deebo , Kyler & Fant. So we are going to be like Thelma & Louise in the next cpl of years but going for the gusto until then
Gave up '23 1st & 2nd plus cpl of backups for Samuel & M. Gordon (Denver) . Defending champ (us) needed depth @ RB for bye weeks / injury and project Deebo to step up our wr group. Have D.Parker as our 4th wr now along w/ Keenan & D. Adams.
Trade partner is banking on our collapse next year and don't blame him not wanting '22 picks. Currently undefeated in 1st place so next year picks going to be late. All our key guys are late 20's except Deebo , Kyler & Fant. So we are going to be like Thelma & Louise in the next cpl of years but going for the gusto until then
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I'm tempted to buy deebo in case his value keeps climbing but am equally afraid his value is at it's peak.
I have concerns when they turn to the rookie as rookie qbs very rarely sustain a wr1, even less so when its not a wr that's a proven wr1 vet.
I also worry aiyuk will grow and become a bigger part of the game plan as will kittle. Aiyuk showed us what we needed to see last year, not sure how he ended up in the doghouse but talent eventually wins out.
Not saying deebo won't be a fine wr for ff. But if we regress towards more a 1a and 1b with him and aiyuk the value isn't there to buy him as a future ff star like Jefferson or chase. On the flip side he can keep balling and be a 3rd year breakout
I have concerns when they turn to the rookie as rookie qbs very rarely sustain a wr1, even less so when its not a wr that's a proven wr1 vet.
I also worry aiyuk will grow and become a bigger part of the game plan as will kittle. Aiyuk showed us what we needed to see last year, not sure how he ended up in the doghouse but talent eventually wins out.
Not saying deebo won't be a fine wr for ff. But if we regress towards more a 1a and 1b with him and aiyuk the value isn't there to buy him as a future ff star like Jefferson or chase. On the flip side he can keep balling and be a 3rd year breakout
12 team PPR 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 FLEX
QB- Burrow, Murray, Stafford, G Smith
RB- CMC, Taylor, Swift, Jacobs, B Hall, Gibbs, A Jones, Najee
WR- Kupp, AJB, ARSB, K Allen, Pittman, London, Puka, Dell
TE- Kelce, Hockenson, Pitts
Picks
2024 2nd, (2)3rd, 5th
2025 1st, (2)3rd, 5th
2025 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
QB- Burrow, Murray, Stafford, G Smith
RB- CMC, Taylor, Swift, Jacobs, B Hall, Gibbs, A Jones, Najee
WR- Kupp, AJB, ARSB, K Allen, Pittman, London, Puka, Dell
TE- Kelce, Hockenson, Pitts
Picks
2024 2nd, (2)3rd, 5th
2025 1st, (2)3rd, 5th
2025 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season
How are we feeling about Darrell Henderson? He's balled out early this season. What chance does he have to sustain this into next year or is there the worry about his role long term?
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I think he's great for a contender this year but his future is very uncertain. If akers comes back it'll probably be a commitee. Even if akers can't regain form I'd bet they give him a chance or draft a rookie rb next year.
I own and am contending so won't be selling outside a huge overpay
12 team PPR 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 FLEX
QB- Burrow, Murray, Stafford, G Smith
RB- CMC, Taylor, Swift, Jacobs, B Hall, Gibbs, A Jones, Najee
WR- Kupp, AJB, ARSB, K Allen, Pittman, London, Puka, Dell
TE- Kelce, Hockenson, Pitts
Picks
2024 2nd, (2)3rd, 5th
2025 1st, (2)3rd, 5th
2025 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
QB- Burrow, Murray, Stafford, G Smith
RB- CMC, Taylor, Swift, Jacobs, B Hall, Gibbs, A Jones, Najee
WR- Kupp, AJB, ARSB, K Allen, Pittman, London, Puka, Dell
TE- Kelce, Hockenson, Pitts
Picks
2024 2nd, (2)3rd, 5th
2025 1st, (2)3rd, 5th
2025 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season
I also like Deebo but agree this may be the peak of his value possibly. Unless Lance comes in and balls out, he's looking at a muddled situation next year and possible a change of scenery after. His numbers are great for so far though, health withstanding.DynastyKing23 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:58 pm I'm tempted to buy deebo in case his value keeps climbing but am equally afraid his value is at it's peak.
I have concerns when they turn to the rookie as rookie qbs very rarely sustain a wr1, even less so when its not a wr that's a proven wr1 vet.
I also worry aiyuk will grow and become a bigger part of the game plan as will kittle. Aiyuk showed us what we needed to see last year, not sure how he ended up in the doghouse but talent eventually wins out.
Not saying deebo won't be a fine wr for ff. But if we regress towards more a 1a and 1b with him and aiyuk the value isn't there to buy him as a future ff star like Jefferson or chase. On the flip side he can keep balling and be a 3rd year breakout
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I'm trying to shop Kamara while his name value is still high. The lack of receiving work has me worried.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
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Yeah, Kamara's transformation into a between the tackles grinder with little receiving work is interesting. The problem is obvious but the advantage of now getting steady volume without a McAllister/Ingram /Murray to siphon rushes strengthens his floor.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:30 am I'm trying to shop Kamara while his name value is still high. The lack of receiving work has me worried.
I'm not selling where I have him but don't see myself buying right now- don't see that receiving work returning shortly, worried it's a function of Winston.
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1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
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League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def
Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season
He's never seen even close to this amount of between-the-tackles usage before... is anyone going to be surprised if his body doesn't handle it?Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:46 amYeah, Kamara's transformation into a between the tackles grinder with little receiving work is interesting. The problem is obvious but the advantage of now getting steady volume without a McAllister/Ingram /Murray to siphon rushes strengthens his floor.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:30 am I'm trying to shop Kamara while his name value is still high. The lack of receiving work has me worried.
I'm not selling where I have him but don't see myself buying right now- don't see that receiving work returning shortly, worried it's a function of Winston.
I feel like him playing more of an Ekeler style receiving role has been a big secret to his longevity this far. I wouldn't blame anyone for cashing out given the state of the Saints right now.
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I've been offered:Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:46 amYeah, Kamara's transformation into a between the tackles grinder with little receiving work is interesting. The problem is obvious but the advantage of now getting steady volume without a McAllister/Ingram /Murray to siphon rushes strengthens his floor.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:30 am I'm trying to shop Kamara while his name value is still high. The lack of receiving work has me worried.
I'm not selling where I have him but don't see myself buying right now- don't see that receiving work returning shortly, worried it's a function of Winston.
Henderson + 23 1st
Gaskin + Juju + 23 1st & 2nd
How close are either IYO?
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season
No way I'd deal Kamara for Henderson and a 1st, but I'm very low on DHen. The 2nd is more interesting but I see a player with temporary value/production in Gaskin, another who maxes out at say a WR2 and 2 picks over a year from now.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:33 amI've been offered:Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:46 amYeah, Kamara's transformation into a between the tackles grinder with little receiving work is interesting. The problem is obvious but the advantage of now getting steady volume without a McAllister/Ingram /Murray to siphon rushes strengthens his floor.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:30 am I'm trying to shop Kamara while his name value is still high. The lack of receiving work has me worried.
I'm not selling where I have him but don't see myself buying right now- don't see that receiving work returning shortly, worried it's a function of Winston.
Henderson + 23 1st
Gaskin + Juju + 23 1st & 2nd
How close are either IYO?
I'd pursue a version of the 2nd if Gaskin were swapped for a piece I like better, and would consider adding go Kamara to get good returns.
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
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League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def