Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby Hottoddies » Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:34 am

Jrblaha wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:32 am
Kcarr wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:19 pm Even if Pitts does very little his value will, as a rookie in a typically slow developing position, be insulated to where he can't fall far below hock
If that holds true, then Pitts won’t be a buy for me until it continues year 2, and he finally falls well below hock. If he has to have 3 bad years for it happen he’s no longer a buy for me, so maybe timing just never works out
I guess this means you'll never have to worry about owning Pitts.
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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby Jrblaha » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:26 am

Hottoddies wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:34 am
Jrblaha wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:32 am
Kcarr wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:19 pm Even if Pitts does very little his value will, as a rookie in a typically slow developing position, be insulated to where he can't fall far below hock
If that holds true, then Pitts won’t be a buy for me until it continues year 2, and he finally falls well below hock. If he has to have 3 bad years for it happen he’s no longer a buy for me, so maybe timing just never works out
I guess this means you'll never have to worry about owning Pitts.
👍 Could be and why I said “maybe timing just never works out.”
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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby dark_knite03 » Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:02 pm

Thoughts on Deebo?
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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby CGW » Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:28 am

dark_knite03 wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:02 pm Thoughts on Deebo?
I really want to say sell high, but I'm holding. He's a young WR1 in a high scoring offense and he's seeing downfield targets now too. I wasnt a believer, but I'm becoming one.
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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby Jrblaha » Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:46 am

CGW wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:28 am
dark_knite03 wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:02 pm Thoughts on Deebo?
I really want to say sell high, but I'm holding. He's a young WR1 in a high scoring offense and he's seeing downfield targets now too. I want a believer, but I'm becoming one.
I feel similar. I want to say sell, but I feel like you have to hold outside of great offers, so much upside still even if he doesn’t maintain absurd beginning
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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby cazzie33 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:35 am

Got lucky & acquired Deebo just before big day from owner in rebuild who got tired of his being injured. Dude is just a baller who may play too hard for his own good(like Kittle) but he's a rb playing wr that when healthy can be wr1 material. Gets plenty of targets & a few rushing attempts so floor should be high excepting when he gets injured in the early stages of a game.

Gave up '23 1st & 2nd plus cpl of backups for Samuel & M. Gordon (Denver) . Defending champ (us) needed depth @ RB for bye weeks / injury and project Deebo to step up our wr group. Have D.Parker as our 4th wr now along w/ Keenan & D. Adams.

Trade partner is banking on our collapse next year and don't blame him not wanting '22 picks. Currently undefeated in 1st place so next year picks going to be late. All our key guys are late 20's except Deebo , Kyler & Fant. So we are going to be like Thelma & Louise in the next cpl of years but going for the gusto until then 😏

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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby DynastyKing23 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:58 pm

I'm tempted to buy deebo in case his value keeps climbing but am equally afraid his value is at it's peak.

I have concerns when they turn to the rookie as rookie qbs very rarely sustain a wr1, even less so when its not a wr that's a proven wr1 vet.

I also worry aiyuk will grow and become a bigger part of the game plan as will kittle. Aiyuk showed us what we needed to see last year, not sure how he ended up in the doghouse but talent eventually wins out.

Not saying deebo won't be a fine wr for ff. But if we regress towards more a 1a and 1b with him and aiyuk the value isn't there to buy him as a future ff star like Jefferson or chase. On the flip side he can keep balling and be a 3rd year breakout
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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby Dshank87 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:25 pm

How are we feeling about Darrell Henderson? He's balled out early this season. What chance does he have to sustain this into next year or is there the worry about his role long term?

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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby DynastyKing23 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:27 pm

Dshank87 wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:25 pm How are we feeling about Darrell Henderson? He's balled out early this season. What chance does he have to sustain this into next year or is there the worry about his role long term?
I think he's great for a contender this year but his future is very uncertain. If akers comes back it'll probably be a commitee. Even if akers can't regain form I'd bet they give him a chance or draft a rookie rb next year.

I own and am contending so won't be selling outside a huge overpay
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RB- CMC, Taylor, Swift, Jacobs, B Hall, Gibbs, A Jones, Najee
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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:07 pm

DynastyKing23 wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:58 pm I'm tempted to buy deebo in case his value keeps climbing but am equally afraid his value is at it's peak.

I have concerns when they turn to the rookie as rookie qbs very rarely sustain a wr1, even less so when its not a wr that's a proven wr1 vet.

I also worry aiyuk will grow and become a bigger part of the game plan as will kittle. Aiyuk showed us what we needed to see last year, not sure how he ended up in the doghouse but talent eventually wins out.

Not saying deebo won't be a fine wr for ff. But if we regress towards more a 1a and 1b with him and aiyuk the value isn't there to buy him as a future ff star like Jefferson or chase. On the flip side he can keep balling and be a 3rd year breakout
I also like Deebo but agree this may be the peak of his value possibly. Unless Lance comes in and balls out, he's looking at a muddled situation next year and possible a change of scenery after. His numbers are great for so far though, health withstanding.

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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby Orenthal Shames » Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:30 am

I'm trying to shop Kamara while his name value is still high. The lack of receiving work has me worried.
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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby Pullo Vision » Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:46 am

Orenthal Shames wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:30 am I'm trying to shop Kamara while his name value is still high. The lack of receiving work has me worried.
Yeah, Kamara's transformation into a between the tackles grinder with little receiving work is interesting. The problem is obvious but the advantage of now getting steady volume without a McAllister/Ingram /Murray to siphon rushes strengthens his floor.

I'm not selling where I have him but don't see myself buying right now- don't see that receiving work returning shortly, worried it's a function of Winston.
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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby mild » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:33 pm

Pullo Vision wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:46 am
Orenthal Shames wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:30 am I'm trying to shop Kamara while his name value is still high. The lack of receiving work has me worried.
Yeah, Kamara's transformation into a between the tackles grinder with little receiving work is interesting. The problem is obvious but the advantage of now getting steady volume without a McAllister/Ingram /Murray to siphon rushes strengthens his floor.

I'm not selling where I have him but don't see myself buying right now- don't see that receiving work returning shortly, worried it's a function of Winston.
He's never seen even close to this amount of between-the-tackles usage before... is anyone going to be surprised if his body doesn't handle it?

I feel like him playing more of an Ekeler style receiving role has been a big secret to his longevity this far. I wouldn't blame anyone for cashing out given the state of the Saints right now.

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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby Orenthal Shames » Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:33 am

Pullo Vision wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:46 am
Orenthal Shames wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:30 am I'm trying to shop Kamara while his name value is still high. The lack of receiving work has me worried.
Yeah, Kamara's transformation into a between the tackles grinder with little receiving work is interesting. The problem is obvious but the advantage of now getting steady volume without a McAllister/Ingram /Murray to siphon rushes strengthens his floor.

I'm not selling where I have him but don't see myself buying right now- don't see that receiving work returning shortly, worried it's a function of Winston.
I've been offered:

Henderson + 23 1st

Gaskin + Juju + 23 1st & 2nd

How close are either IYO?
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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby Pullo Vision » Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:55 pm

Orenthal Shames wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:33 am
Pullo Vision wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:46 am
Orenthal Shames wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:30 am I'm trying to shop Kamara while his name value is still high. The lack of receiving work has me worried.
Yeah, Kamara's transformation into a between the tackles grinder with little receiving work is interesting. The problem is obvious but the advantage of now getting steady volume without a McAllister/Ingram /Murray to siphon rushes strengthens his floor.

I'm not selling where I have him but don't see myself buying right now- don't see that receiving work returning shortly, worried it's a function of Winston.
I've been offered:

Henderson + 23 1st

Gaskin + Juju + 23 1st & 2nd

How close are either IYO?
No way I'd deal Kamara for Henderson and a 1st, but I'm very low on DHen. The 2nd is more interesting but I see a player with temporary value/production in Gaskin, another who maxes out at say a WR2 and 2 picks over a year from now.

I'd pursue a version of the 2nd if Gaskin were swapped for a piece I like better, and would consider adding go Kamara to get good returns.
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