Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:40 pm

StripesOfKC wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:13 pm Thinking about throwing a dart at Ronald Jones as an impending free agent

Any shot he pulls a Mike Davis and lands in Seattle/Atlanta/Arizona/Miami?

Could be the cheapest potential starting RB in 2022 out there
Arent you the guy that says dont buy low because most lows are trash... :ewink:

Depends on how low. A 3rd? Seems fine. I wouldn't spend a 2nd.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby StripesOfKC » Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:42 pm

SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:40 pm
StripesOfKC wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:13 pm Thinking about throwing a dart at Ronald Jones as an impending free agent

Any shot he pulls a Mike Davis and lands in Seattle/Atlanta/Arizona/Miami?

Could be the cheapest potential starting RB in 2022 out there
Arent you the guy that says dont buy low because most lows are trash... :ewink:

Depends on how low. A 3rd? Seems fine. I wouldn't spend a 2nd.
Oh for sure. I'd send two thirds or a player I believe to be trash but has some value due to being "young"

Would not drop a 2nd

I do think actual buy lows of good players are pretty rare though--so yeah I might be "that guy"

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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:47 pm

StripesOfKC wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:42 pm
SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:40 pm
StripesOfKC wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:13 pm Thinking about throwing a dart at Ronald Jones as an impending free agent

Any shot he pulls a Mike Davis and lands in Seattle/Atlanta/Arizona/Miami?

Could be the cheapest potential starting RB in 2022 out there
Arent you the guy that says dont buy low because most lows are trash... :ewink:

Depends on how low. A 3rd? Seems fine. I wouldn't spend a 2nd.
Oh for sure. I'd send two thirds or a player I believe to be trash but has some value due to being "young"

Would not drop a 2nd

I do think actual buy lows of good players are pretty rare though--so yeah I might be "that guy"
Just giving you a hard time. :)

I remember hearing rumors of Rojo having some terrible work ethics and Ive avoided trying to buy since. Obv if he turned it around he would be loaded with natural talent.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby Pullo Vision » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:49 pm

ThunderTung wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:50 am
Pullo Vision wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:31 am
Orenthal Shames wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:04 am

I've been holding, but it's been rough. Care to expand on this to give your boy some hope?
If we're giving Sanders a pass (or at least the benefit of the doubt) for strange playcalling, and perhaps expanding that to Hurts, then Scott's mysterious touch disappearance is another notch in the series of "WTF is this playcalling" questions. He's not a secret uber stud waiting to be unlocked, but in deep leagues where RB production of any sort have value, the ability to spot start his big play ability on limited touches (and productivity when occasionally given more volume) can't be overlooked. Even if his ceiling is Dion Lewis, that has value.
what's mysterious about his touch disappearance? Other than the amount of rushes going down for the whole team, there is a rookie who has kinda taken his job from him
Gainwell's presence (and fluctuating touch count) doesn't eliminate Scott having a role. I never we him as a potential bell cow but he can be part of a successful run game. 15% of a mid tier run game would make a successful role player in fantasy. A bottom tier run game doesn't a successful role playing RB make.
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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby Pullo Vision » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:51 pm

Annoyed I didn't think of this before Sunday- Gruden getting canned takes Drake out of the dog house. Season high in fantasy points fueled by two TDs, despite facing a strong defense.
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex

League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def

League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def

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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby ThunderTung » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:56 pm

Pullo Vision wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:49 pm
ThunderTung wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:50 am
Pullo Vision wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:31 am
If we're giving Sanders a pass (or at least the benefit of the doubt) for strange playcalling, and perhaps expanding that to Hurts, then Scott's mysterious touch disappearance is another notch in the series of "WTF is this playcalling" questions. He's not a secret uber stud waiting to be unlocked, but in deep leagues where RB production of any sort have value, the ability to spot start his big play ability on limited touches (and productivity when occasionally given more volume) can't be overlooked. Even if his ceiling is Dion Lewis, that has value.
what's mysterious about his touch disappearance? Other than the amount of rushes going down for the whole team, there is a rookie who has kinda taken his job from him
Gainwell's presence (and fluctuating touch count) doesn't eliminate Scott having a role. I never we him as a potential bell cow but he can be part of a successful run game. 15% of a mid tier run game would make a successful role player in fantasy. A bottom tier run game doesn't a successful role playing RB make.
sure he CAN be apart of a successful run game, the fact is that he's not even seeing the field. Gainwell's snap % is about 20%-40%, Sanders around 60%-80%. Im not taking a shot at Scott at all, he was a decent complementary piece. But with a new HC, and a new rookie fighting for the same role, its not really a shock that he's only seen the field for 4 snaps this season. Barring injury I think its pretty clear he's been beaten out by Gainwell, and will continue to not see the field.
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QB(1): Geno Smith
RB(2): ETN/Walker III
WR(2): Chase/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
FLEX(2): Stevenson/Garrett Wilson
K: Mcpherson
DL(2): T. Walker/Vea
LB(2): D. Long/TJ Edwards
DB(2) Dugger/Moehrig
FLEX: Kenneth Murray
IR: J. Hicks/Milano/Marcus Jones
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QB: Mac Jones/Bryce Young
RB: Zeke/D. Harris
WR: N. Brown/Demario Douglas/Bobby Trees/Parker/Tyler Scott
TE: Bellinger/Schultz
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LB: Milano/Edwards/K. Murray/J. Smith
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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby Ray Finkle » Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:04 pm

mild wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:33 pm
Pullo Vision wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:46 am
Orenthal Shames wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:30 am I'm trying to shop Kamara while his name value is still high. The lack of receiving work has me worried.
Yeah, Kamara's transformation into a between the tackles grinder with little receiving work is interesting. The problem is obvious but the advantage of now getting steady volume without a McAllister/Ingram /Murray to siphon rushes strengthens his floor.

I'm not selling where I have him but don't see myself buying right now- don't see that receiving work returning shortly, worried it's a function of Winston.
He's never seen even close to this amount of between-the-tackles usage before... is anyone going to be surprised if his body doesn't handle it?

I feel like him playing more of an Ekeler style receiving role has been a big secret to his longevity this far. I wouldn't blame anyone for cashing out given the state of the Saints right now.
Just catching up on this thread. I shopped Kamara this offseason because I think he is a bit of a sell and nearly struck a deal for a couple firsts and DMont. Then I saw AK’s first few touches of the season and remembered how much I frickin love watching this dude play. I’ll probably ride this ride all the way to the end out of pure fandom even after it’s irrational to do so, something I never do.

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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby Pullo Vision » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:15 pm

ThunderTung wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:56 pm
Pullo Vision wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:49 pm
ThunderTung wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:50 am what's mysterious about his touch disappearance? Other than the amount of rushes going down for the whole team, there is a rookie who has kinda taken his job from him
Gainwell's presence (and fluctuating touch count) doesn't eliminate Scott having a role. I never we him as a potential bell cow but he can be part of a successful run game. 15% of a mid tier run game would make a successful role player in fantasy. A bottom tier run game doesn't a successful role playing RB make.
sure he CAN be apart of a successful run game, the fact is that he's not even seeing the field. Gainwell's snap % is about 20%-40%, Sanders around 60%-80%. Im not taking a shot at Scott at all, he was a decent complementary piece. But with a new HC, and a new rookie fighting for the same role, its not really a shock that he's only seen the field for 4 snaps this season. Barring injury I think its pretty clear he's been beaten out by Gainwell, and will continue to not see the field.
Again, not arguing he'll become occasionally startable this year. My focus is after this year. In dynasty, I'm buying players whose production is temporarily depressed, whether due to situation or injury. Scott has been startable before and I think he can be again in the future. In a 16 team PPR starting 2 RBs with 2 FLEX, he's worth holding. In my 12x22 starting 1 RB, I'm fine leaving him on waivers.
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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:59 am

What are the thoughts on Juju? Is he worth buying given the unknown of pending FA?

I have a pending trade proposed to me of Shenault, Pittman, and B. Edwards for essentially Juju and (will be late) '23 1st.
10-Team Dynasty League QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/FLEX (23 man rosters + 2 IR + 2 Taxi, non-PPR scoring)
QB: Herbert, Goff
RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, J.Cook, K.Hunt, Foreman, Z.White, McKinnon, S.Tucker
WR: G.Wilson, Olave, Jeudy, Pittman, J.Williams, OBJ, N. Brown, JuJu,
TE: Chig, Conklin, L. Thomas
Taxi: M.Mims, Ro. Johnson
'24: (4) 1sts, 2nd, (2) 3rds, 4th
'25: (2) 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby mild » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:00 pm

YouMightDieTryin wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:59 am What are the thoughts on Juju? Is he worth buying given the unknown of pending FA?

I have a pending trade proposed to me of Shenault, Pittman, and B. Edwards for essentially Juju and (will be late) '23 1st.
I'm not convinced you're getting the best player in the trade.

I'm not even convinced that you're NOT getting the worst player in the trade.

Pittman strikes me as a hold right now. He's having a mini-breakout.
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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby SoftwoodGrampian » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:24 pm

Sell Sanders for whatever you can get

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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby dustyroads » Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:13 am

YouMightDieTryin wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:59 am What are the thoughts on Juju? Is he worth buying given the unknown of pending FA?

I have a pending trade proposed to me of Shenault, Pittman, and B. Edwards for essentially Juju and (will be late) '23 1st.
From what I see elsewhere, Juju could be a good buy option right now. I'm most concerned about what they do about QB rn. But yeah I think that proposed trade is too high. Agree with mild he's not even the most valuable piece there. I think Pittman is coming into his own and hitting where drafters thought he could. Wouldn't do Pittman straight up for Juju, def wouldn't add Shenault and Edwards to the deal for a late 1st in return.

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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby Jrblaha » Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:01 am

Been a weird year, or maybe I’m just having writers block. But I don’t really have a lot of wr targets for my rebuild. I have chase and ceedee but not sure who would fit well with them (as a buy low for next year+ production)
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Starters: QB(1) FLEX (RB/WR/TE)(2) RB(2) WR(3) TE(1)

QB: AR, DJones
RB: Gibby, Charb, KMiller, Akers
WR: Chase, Lamb, G Wilson, Tank Dell, Burks, Mimsy, Tutu, W Robinson, Tucker, Wicks, RBell
TE: DNjoku, Hunter Henry

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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:07 am

Jrblaha wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:01 am Been a weird year, or maybe I’m just having writers block. But I don’t really have a lot of wr targets for my rebuild.
Jeudy and Higgins. Elijah Moore. Maybe Rondale. Hunter Renfrow as hopeful Landry type. Nico Collins. Devonta Smith. Auyick. Terrace Marshall.


What do you think of that group as buy lows for rebuilding?
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

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Re: Buy/Sell options 2021 in season

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:32 am

YouMightDieTryin wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:59 am What are the thoughts on Juju? Is he worth buying given the unknown of pending FA?

I have a pending trade proposed to me of Shenault, Pittman, and B. Edwards for essentially Juju and (will be late) '23 1st.
Juju should have a solid 2nd half of his career as a WR 2 in an offense. He was getting open this year, and Ben was missing him, or looking elsewhere. Juju is a very good slot WR, and he's good enough to play outside for a lot of teams. He's just a 2, and not a 1, but he's the type of 2 that can be better than their 2nd corner most times. I see Juju as a WR2 for a few years provided he doesn't go to a horrible offense.
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