Elijah Mitchell thread

[Mike11]

Is Mitchell a top 15 dynasty RB? That's the question I'm starting to wonder. He certainly will be in the convo from 12-18 for redraft RBs next year. Every time he's healthy he's an auto 20 carries and is even getting some receiving work. He's really good and if he wasn't a 6th round pick he'd be value much higher.

While he could produce as a top 15 RB I doubt he will be valued as that given there are significant variables against him. This is a big time running team but with Lance next year, the do it all Deebo, plus plenty of quality backs I don't think he will be consistent enough to pay that price.

That said he is a great guy to roster as he does have upside. I wouldn't be quick to sell but would buy at a the right price. Looks like a WR3 value proposition to me given the situation.

This is fair, but he has to be worth a first I feel like, and at that price what RB from this class would you rather have landing spot agnostic? Maybe just Breece? When it's all said and done a pick in the 1.4-1.6 range is likely to not net a RB so if you need one I could see someone waiting and paying that for him once we know all landing spots and competition.

[CubfanAA]

Is Mitchell a top 15 dynasty RB? That's the question I'm starting to wonder. He certainly will be in the convo from 12-18 for redraft RBs next year. Every time he's healthy he's an auto 20 carries and is even getting some receiving work. He's really good and if he wasn't a 6th round pick he'd be value much higher.

While he could produce as a top 15 RB I doubt he will be valued as that given there are significant variables against him. This is a big time running team but with Lance next year, the do it all Deebo, plus plenty of quality backs I don't think he will be consistent enough to pay that price.

That said he is a great guy to roster as he does have upside. I wouldn't be quick to sell but would buy at a the right price. Looks like a WR3 value proposition to me given the situation.

This is fair, but he has to be worth a first I feel like, and at that price what RB from this class would you rather have landing spot agnostic? Maybe just Breece? When it's all said and done a pick in the 1.4-1.6 range is likely to not net a RB so if you need one I could see someone waiting and paying that for him once we know all landing spots and competition.

I would be surprised if much of anybody wouldn't give up a late 1st for him. From there you are going to have a lot of variance i think in what people value him at compared to most players. I value NFL production much more than draft pedigree or college production once a player has been in the NFL for a year. Mitchell is already over 1000 all purpose yards for his career in just 10 games. i am not trading him for even 1.01 in this years draft, but would most years. Some people though probably wouldn't trade much better than 1.12 for him just because of where he was drafted.

[Ice]

The Counter to his mid first rookie valuation.

5 players had plus 4 YPC at 15 plus touches. Basically anyone could run in that scheme.

Deebo led the way with 6.3 YPC and rushed 51 times.
Little used Lance ran 38 times at 4.4 YPC

These two will see an uptick in carries next year most likely.
Mitchell only had 19 receptions which is less than Hasty and the FB Juszczyk so his ppr value is a concern.

He certainly has upside but there are question marks throughout the offense going forward when it comes to utilization.

BTW Mitchell had 4 different injuries this past season.

I would say he is a risky buy in the 1st but better than a lottery ticket.

[killer_of_giants]

The Counter to his mid first rookie valuation.

5 players had plus 4 YPC at 15 plus touches. Basically anyone could run in that scheme.

Deebo led the way with 6.3 YPC and rushed 51 times.
Little used Lance ran 38 times at 4.4 YPC

These two will see an uptick in carries next year most likely.
Mitchell only had 19 receptions which is less than Hasty and the FB Juszczyk so his ppr value is a concern.

deebo is a superstar so i'm not worried about him having better ypc. in the second half of the season, when deebo has been used a bit more as a RB, mitchell still got 20+ carries when healthy, and i doubt they give deebo more carries than they did, he's a big part of the offense and the more the carries, the higher the injury risk.

lance might get more rushes than he did, but having a rushing QB can benefit a RB. as for the others, good enough ypc, but they don't look nearly as dangerous as mitchell.

one of the reason i dislike ppr so much is that it makes everyone obsessed with RB receptions.

[Ice]

The Counter to his mid first rookie valuation.

5 players had plus 4 YPC at 15 plus touches. Basically anyone could run in that scheme.

Deebo led the way with 6.3 YPC and rushed 51 times.
Little used Lance ran 38 times at 4.4 YPC

These two will see an uptick in carries next year most likely.
Mitchell only had 19 receptions which is less than Hasty and the FB Juszczyk so his ppr value is a concern.

deebo is a superstar so i'm not worried about him having better ypc. in the second half of the season, when deebo has been used a bit more as a RB, mitchell still got 20+ carries when healthy, and i doubt they give deebo more carries than they did, he's a big part of the offense and the more the carries, the higher the injury risk.

lance might get more rushes than he did, but having a rushing QB can benefit a RB. as for the others, good enough ypc, but they don't look nearly as dangerous as mitchell.

one of the reason i dislike ppr so much is that it makes everyone obsessed with RB receptions.

We obsess because every 6 equals a rushing TD.

YTD 62 RB's have had more targets..... That is a concern or should be if you play in PPR leagues. His receptions could/should obviously increase but from a current valuation perspective it should be considered.

[Pullo Vision]

As a Mitchell owner elsewhere, I'm concerned he's this offseason's JRob. Same low capital, both easily replaced, especially with the Shanahans' history of finding production from lumps of clay.

[SoftwoodGrampian]

It’s not been shown that J Rob is easily replaced. He was injured.

[CGW]

It’s not been shown that J Rob is easily replaced. He was injured.

Mostly. There were also a handful of games where Carlos Hyde outcarried him when both were fully active.

[SoftwoodGrampian]

It’s not been shown that J Rob is easily replaced. He was injured.

Mostly. There were also a handful of games where Carlos Hyde outcarried him when both were fully active.

There’s nothing notable here

[Forza_Azzurri]

Long-term, he is either a Top 10 RB or completely irrelevant … that’s just the nature of the 49ers. I love his talent for the system, but am super concerned about his durability. If he missing extended time next year, he’ll probably end up as an afterthought.

[Pullo Vision]

It’s not been shown that J Rob is easily replaced. He was injured.

The focus was how some might create (lazy, imo) narratives on Mitchell's value/future, not whether I agree with them.

[killer_of_giants]

We obsess because every 6 equals a rushing TD.

and that's exactly why it's a shite format, imo.

YTD 62 RB's have had more targets..... That is a concern or should be if you play in PPR leagues. His receptions could/should obviously increase but from a current valuation perspective it should be considered.

i'm not saying you shouldn't be concerned if you play in ppr leagues. i'm just saying that it's annoying that the main discussion for RBs has become their catching ability/opportunity.

[Ice]

We obsess because every 6 equals a rushing TD.

and that's exactly why it's a shite format, imo.

YTD 62 RB's have had more targets..... That is a concern or should be if you play in PPR leagues. His receptions could/should obviously increase but from a current valuation perspective it should be considered.

i'm not saying you shouldn't be concerned if you play in ppr leagues. i'm just saying that it's annoying that the main discussion for RBs has become their catching ability/opportunity.

I actually like the format as it brings in more players that matter when building a roster.

There are players that rise above but like it or not the NFL is in the era of passing and specialists at the RB position so more research is obviously needed.

[killer_of_giants]

There are players that rise above but like it or not the NFL is in the era of passing and specialists at the RB position so more research is obviously needed.

indeed. but i can't see any reason to award a point for a reception, in your statement.
pass catching is important for modern backs, but it's not the only (or most) important thing.

[CGW]

There are players that rise above but like it or not the NFL is in the era of passing and specialists at the RB position so more research is obviously needed.

indeed. but i can't see any reason to award a point for a reception, in your statement.
pass catching is important for modern backs, but it's not the only (or most) important thing.

At a risk of derailing Mitchell's thread...

Its a great thing there are multiple types of league settings. I have a a handful of leagues and by far prefer my PPR (and SF, TEP, and as many flex as possible) leagues. Any time you can add roster flexibility, I tend to prefer it. High yardage and TD players only? Nah. Let me start Diontae, Allen, Renfrow, Boyd, Swift, and McKissic if that's what I want to do.