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Re: Elijah Mitchell thread

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:25 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:27 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:20 pm Why did you bring up 10 yard splits
Just to piss you off. :lol:
Sermons fairy tale 10 yard split will never not be funny.

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Re: Elijah Mitchell thread

Postby thebeast » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:55 am

Space Cowboy wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:05 am
thebeast wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:55 am
Jigga94 wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:25 pm

I don't think Sermon is fit for this offense at all. And I don't think Shanny redesigns the run game just because Lance is under center. I get buying low and have done that with literally every RB in this offense, except Sermon. I don't know why they even reached to draft him.

Now if Sermon were to swap teams, then maybe he'd be viable. Not saying he's complete trash. But I wouldn't spend more than a 3rd.

Also, where was Deebo a throw in? I remember Aiyuk out hyping him but I still thought Deebo held value and I don't think his situation is comparable to Sermons. We saw Deebo perform well, injury was really the only risk.
While I don’t disagree with your thoughts I do think Shanahan had something in mind when he draft Lance and then moved up for Sermon. Personally I faxed Sermon and Carter in all my drafts except for 1 (1 of 8) as I didn’t like the history for RBs drafted in that range. That being said I still think this is an excellent but low opportunity and I would only be looking to invest in Mitchell for the rest of this year if I were contending.

Re: Deebo, in august he was being drafted after Shenault, Fant, Terrace Marshall , Gaskin and Bateman. It may not be a throw in but he didn’t hold any more value than a rookie late first or early second flier and most people weren’t investing in him.
I did a startup over the summer and all those guys went before Deebo. (rookie draft was seperate)
I based it off DLFs august adp data as that’s all I had available.

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Re: Elijah Mitchell thread

Postby Space Cowboy » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:00 am

Aiyuk went in the 45 range of my startup, Deebo around 100/110.

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Re: Elijah Mitchell thread

Postby Jigga94 » Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:36 pm

Week 14 update

Mitchell - concussion protocol, Questionable
Wilson - knee flare up, Questionable
Sermon - IR
Mostert - IR

That leaves Hasty as the only healthy RB I believe

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Re: Elijah Mitchell thread

Postby thebeast » Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:39 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:36 pm Week 14 update

Mitchell - concussion protocol, Questionable
Wilson - knee flare up, Questionable
Sermon - IR
Mostert - IR

That leaves Hasty as the only healthy RB I believe
Deebo will get the workload, if he plays.

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Re: Elijah Mitchell thread

Postby Forza_Azzurri » Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:46 pm

I’m not sure if Mitchell’s list of injuries this year is a testament to his toughness or a sign of trouble long-term.

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Re: Elijah Mitchell thread

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:22 am

thebeast wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:39 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:36 pm Week 14 update

Mitchell - concussion protocol, Questionable
Wilson - knee flare up, Questionable
Sermon - IR
Mostert - IR

That leaves Hasty as the only healthy RB I believe
Deebo will get the workload, if he plays.
The best RB they have lol

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Re: Elijah Mitchell thread

Postby Nanananananana » Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:34 am

Forza_Azzurri wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:46 pm I’m not sure if Mitchell’s list of injuries this year is a testament to his toughness or a sign of trouble long-term.
Huh huh…Huh huh……..You said testament

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Re: Elijah Mitchell thread

Postby Cameron Giles » Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:55 pm

Forza_Azzurri wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:46 pm I’m not sure if Mitchell’s list of injuries this year is a testament to his toughness or a sign of trouble long-term.
Happens to basically every RB under Shanahan in San Francisco. They just can't find an RB who can stay on the field for a decent stretch.

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Re: Elijah Mitchell thread

Postby Rondalebaby » Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:38 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:25 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:27 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:20 pm Why did you bring up 10 yard splits
Just to piss you off. :lol:
Sermons fairy tale 10 yard split will never not be funny.
Everyone’s trashed pro day times forever but for some reason his pro day 10 yard split time was considered godly :lol:

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Re: Elijah Mitchell thread

Postby Ice » Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:21 am

Mitchell is really good averaging 4.6 YPC.

Partial List of RB's currently chasing Sermon's 4.1 YPC.

Collins 3.9
Gibson 3.9
Jacobs 3.9
Conner 3.8
Barkley 3.8
N. Harris 3.7
Kamara 3.6
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Re: Elijah Mitchell thread

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:37 am

Ice wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:21 am Mitchell is really good averaging 4.6 YPC.

Partial List of RB's currently chasing Sermon's 4.1 YPC.

Collins 3.9
Gibson 3.9
Jacobs 3.9
Conner 3.8
Barkley 3.8
N. Harris 3.7
Kamara 3.6
YPC isn't the greatest indicator of how good a RB is at times. Speaking as someone who is well versed in Raiders football, the OL is downright terrible. I'm amazed Jacobs YPC is even that high.
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Re: Elijah Mitchell thread

Postby Ice » Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:58 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:37 am
Ice wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:21 am Mitchell is really good averaging 4.6 YPC.

Partial List of RB's currently chasing Sermon's 4.1 YPC.

Collins 3.9
Gibson 3.9
Jacobs 3.9
Conner 3.8
Barkley 3.8
N. Harris 3.7
Kamara 3.6
YPC isn't the greatest indicator of how good a RB is at times. Speaking as someone who is well versed in Raiders football, the OL is downright terrible. I'm amazed Jacobs YPC is even that high.
Never claimed it was the greatest indicator but it telling how many good backs are just not playing very good this year for a multitude of reasons. Players need a lot of volume with those numbers or they better be really good in the passing game.
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Re: Elijah Mitchell thread

Postby Mike11 » Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:35 am

Is Mitchell a top 15 dynasty RB? That's the question I'm starting to wonder. He certainly will be in the convo from 12-18 for redraft RBs next year. Every time he's healthy he's an auto 20 carries and is even getting some receiving work. He's really good and if he wasn't a 6th round pick he'd be value much higher.
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Re: Elijah Mitchell thread

Postby Ice » Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:44 am

Mike11 wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:35 am Is Mitchell a top 15 dynasty RB? That's the question I'm starting to wonder. He certainly will be in the convo from 12-18 for redraft RBs next year. Every time he's healthy he's an auto 20 carries and is even getting some receiving work. He's really good and if he wasn't a 6th round pick he'd be value much higher.
While he could produce as a top 15 RB I doubt he will be valued as that given there are significant variables against him. This is a big time running team but with Lance next year, the do it all Deebo, plus plenty of quality backs I don't think he will be consistent enough to pay that price.

That said he is a great guy to roster as he does have upside. I wouldn't be quick to sell but would buy at a the right price. Looks like a WR3 value proposition to me given the situation.
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