Devin Singletary - Ready to Blast Off!!

[TheNuts]

If Singletary is healthy, he will be the rb1 for the Bills, and it won't be particularly close

It’s always fascinating to me that guys get so invested emotionally in a player that they are willing to completely dismiss things that are happening right in front of them where everyone can see it.

From what we’re seeing right now, it’s looking like the BUF backfield could go either way and that there is a real possibility that this ends up being a 50/50 split. There’s also a real possibility that Moss is actually a better RB than Singletary - which is no knock on Singletary. He’s proven that he can produce in the NFL.

Ah, the fun of preseason speculation.

I'm not emotionally attached. It's sad that if someone says a player is going to be the main guy based purely off of info, that means he is now emotionally attached. It's fine. I got Singletary relatively cheap for a starter all over the place this year. I may go try to get him for even cheaper in the few spots I don't have him.

[Bronco Billy]

If Singletary is healthy, he will be the rb1 for the Bills, and it won't be particularly close

It’s always fascinating to me that guys get so invested emotionally in a player that they are willing to completely dismiss things that are happening right in front of them where everyone can see it.

From what we’re seeing right now, it’s looking like the BUF backfield could go either way and that there is a real possibility that this ends up being a 50/50 split. There’s also a real possibility that Moss is actually a better RB than Singletary - which is no knock on Singletary. He’s proven that he can produce in the NFL.

Ah, the fun of preseason speculation.

I'm not emotionally attached. It's sad that if someone says a player is going to be the main guy based purely off of info, that means he is now emotionally attached. It's fine. I got Singletary relatively cheap for a starter all over the place this year. I may go try to get him for even cheaper in the few spots I don't have him.

If that is true, then I don’t understand your dismissing out of hand that Moss could have a significant impact on the BUF backfield workload, up to and including the possibility that he could end up being the lead back - especially given the feedback that we have seen coming out of BUF of how well he has been performing to date. Given that, there is no way to accurately assess how the workload between the two of them will shake out. You could be right, Singletary may run away with it. But it is quite possible that it could be an even split or even that Moss is the dominant RB there. There’s just no way to know right now.

So given that, unless you have some inside knowledge that no one other than the BUF coaching staff knows, I can only assume that your coming to a foregone conclusion that you have some kind of emotional tie - unless you just think all the reports out of BUF are lies, in which case I’d be interested in hearing how you came to that conclusion.

[DJB]

If Singletary is healthy, he will be the rb1 for the Bills, and it won't be particularly close

It’s always fascinating to me that guys get so invested emotionally in a player ]that they are willing to completely dismiss things that are happening right in front of them where everyone can see it.

From what we’re seeing right now, it’s looking like the BUF backfield could go either way and that there is a real possibility that this ends up being a 50/50 split. There’s also a real possibility that Moss is actually a better RB than Singletary - which is no knock on Singletary. He’s proven that he can produce in the NFL.

Ah, the fun of preseason speculation.

I'm not emotionally attached. It's sad that if someone says a player is going to be the main guy based purely off of info, that means he is now emotionally attached. It's fine. I got Singletary relatively cheap for a starter all over the place this year. I may go try to get him for even cheaper in the few spots I don't have him.

So you admit you have some emotional attachment.

Gotcha.

[thebeast]

There is a lot of Moss love in this thread for a guy who hasn’t done anything in even a preseason game. There is always a ton of hype on rookies in training camp. I would invest in the guy who has already flashed in the nfl and by all account worked his tail off this off season. All these posters got the guy moss in the 2nd or 3rd and now ting he’s a 3 down rb who is going to just take over the job? It’s certainly possible, but I think if that was the case he would be a mid-high round 1 rookie pick, which he isn’t. Seems like the emotional attachment is really the love for Moss.

[TheNuts]

It’s always fascinating to me that guys get so invested emotionally in a player ]that they are willing to completely dismiss things that are happening right in front of them where everyone can see it.

From what we’re seeing right now, it’s looking like the BUF backfield could go either way and that there is a real possibility that this ends up being a 50/50 split. There’s also a real possibility that Moss is actually a better RB than Singletary - which is no knock on Singletary. He’s proven that he can produce in the NFL.

Ah, the fun of preseason speculation.

I'm not emotionally attached. It's sad that if someone says a player is going to be the main guy based purely off of info, that means he is now emotionally attached. It's fine. I got Singletary relatively cheap for a starter all over the place this year. I may go try to get him for even cheaper in the few spots I don't have him.

So you admit you have some emotional attachment.

Gotcha.

I also own zero shares of mcaffery or Barkley yet i think they are both really good and will dominate the team carries. It doesn't mean i have an emotional connection. Pretty easy to grasp stuff here

[Bronco Billy]

There is a lot of Moss love in this thread for a guy who hasn’t done anything in even a preseason game. There is always a ton of hype on rookies in training camp. I would invest in the guy who has already flashed in the nfl and by all account worked his tail off this off season. All these posters got the guy moss in the 2nd or 3rd and now ting he’s a 3 down rb who is going to just take over the job? It’s certainly possible, but I think if that was the case he would be a mid-high round 1 rookie pick, which he isn’t. Seems like the emotional attachment is really the love for Moss.

When was Singletary drafted last year?

I’ll reiterate my position (and full disclosure I am a Moss owner because I believe in the talent and drafted him at 1.13 - which is where I was targeting him before the NFL draft - rather than risk trading down and missing him) that Singletary has proven himself, but that reports out of BUF are indicating that Moss’ talent is transferring to the next level and that there is a rational basis for thinking that he’ll have a meaningful role this year. I’ll also freely acknowledge that I couldn’t begin to guess how the touches out of the backfield will be divided between the two. My issue is with those who simply dismiss Moss as being incapable of carving out a meaningful role.

[CGW]

Love preseason. None of us have any idea how things will look once the season starts. Things we do know- buffalo had 456 carries last year with 156 going to singletary. Singletary looked like their best playmaker in 2019. Buf released Gore and had a shortage of RB. They drafted a guy in the 3rd to fill that need. Moss has limited practice time and 0 carries in the NFL.

Hard for me to imagine a situation where both players don't have opportunity with the 456 carries, but I prefer Singletary. If you expect either to be an RB1, you may be disappointed.

[Ice]

Singletary averaged 5.1 YPC last season in 12 games 8 starts. He also had 24 receptions. It is silly to think he won't be a significant factor this season.

This could be a RBBC situation but Singletary is the safer play given he has shown he can be very effective in game situations and was gelling with Allen in the passing game. Singletary added 133 total yards in his playoff game hauling in 6 of 7 targets.

[thebeast]

There is a lot of Moss love in this thread for a guy who hasn’t done anything in even a preseason game. There is always a ton of hype on rookies in training camp. I would invest in the guy who has already flashed in the nfl and by all account worked his tail off this off season. All these posters got the guy moss in the 2nd or 3rd and now ting he’s a 3 down rb who is going to just take over the job? It’s certainly possible, but I think if that was the case he would be a mid-high round 1 rookie pick, which he isn’t. Seems like the emotional attachment is really the love for Moss.

When was Singletary drafted last year?

I’ll reiterate my position (and full disclosure I am a Moss owner because I believe in the talent and drafted him at 1.13 - which is where I was targeting him before the NFL draft - rather than risk trading down and missing him) that Singletary has proven himself, but that reports out of BUF are indicating that Moss’ talent is transferring to the next level and that there is a rational basis for thinking that he’ll have a meaningful role this year. I’ll also freely acknowledge that I couldn’t begin to guess how the touches out of the backfield will be divided between the two. My issue is with those who simply dismiss Moss as being incapable of carving out a meaningful role.

I'm going to let Ice answer this for me, because he said it better than I could:

Singletary averaged 5.1 YPC last season in 12 games 8 starts. He also had 24 receptions. It is silly to think he won't be a significant factor this season.

This could be a RBBC situation but Singletary is the safer play given he has shown he can be very effective in game situations and was gelling with Allen in the passing game. Singletary added 133 total yards in his playoff game hauling in 6 of 7 targets.

The reports you are hearing are based on practice, lots of it in shorts without contact, this means nothing. He may be great and he may split the workload or lead the backfield, but I wouldn't be making those projections based off of camp reports, especially not this pre-season. Singletary is by far the better bet at this point in time, you've seen him excel with the pads on in live gameplay.

[Space Cowboy]

Singletary averaged 5.1 YPC last season in 12 games 8 starts. He also had 24 receptions. It is silly to think he won't be a significant factor this season.

This could be a RBBC situation but Singletary is the safer play given he has shown he can be very effective in game situations and was gelling with Allen in the passing game. Singletary added 133 total yards in his playoff game hauling in 6 of 7 targets.

He was the Bills best player in that playoff game. 6 catches 76 yards plus 4.5 YPC. He's a factor, no doubt about it. Him and Moss will 50/50 split is my guess.

[straightcashhomie831]

There is a lot of Moss love in this thread for a guy who hasn’t done anything in even a preseason game. There is always a ton of hype on rookies in training camp. I would invest in the guy who has already flashed in the nfl and by all account worked his tail off this off season. All these posters got the guy moss in the 2nd or 3rd and now ting he’s a 3 down rb who is going to just take over the job? It’s certainly possible, but I think if that was the case he would be a mid-high round 1 rookie pick, which he isn’t. Seems like the emotional attachment is really the love for Moss.

When was Singletary drafted last year?

I’ll reiterate my position (and full disclosure I am a Moss owner because I believe in the talent and drafted him at 1.13 - which is where I was targeting him before the NFL draft - rather than risk trading down and missing him) that Singletary has proven himself, but that reports out of BUF are indicating that Moss’ talent is transferring to the next level and that there is a rational basis for thinking that he’ll have a meaningful role this year. I’ll also freely acknowledge that I couldn’t begin to guess how the touches out of the backfield will be divided between the two. My issue is with those who simply dismiss Moss as being incapable of carving out a meaningful role.

I'm going to let Ice answer this for me, because he said it better than I could:

Singletary averaged 5.1 YPC last season in 12 games 8 starts. He also had 24 receptions. It is silly to think he won't be a significant factor this season.

This could be a RBBC situation but Singletary is the safer play given he has shown he can be very effective in game situations and was gelling with Allen in the passing game. Singletary added 133 total yards in his playoff game hauling in 6 of 7 targets.

The reports you are hearing are based on practice, lots of it in shorts without contact, this means nothing. He may be great and he may split the workload or lead the backfield, but I wouldn't be making those projections based off of camp reports, especially not this pre-season. Singletary is by far the better bet at this point in time, you've seen him excel with the pads on in live gameplay.

I like Singletary and i agree he's probably the safer play...if you want to play it safe. But Moss has looked decent...even if it's in shorts you should take notice because Moss is WAY more physical when you put the pads on. But Moss has also showed he's solid in pass pro and he hs solid hands so they wont hesitate to put him in on passing downs. The main reason people think Moss will take GL carries is because he runs with power.

[Bronco Billy]

There is a lot of Moss love in this thread for a guy who hasn’t done anything in even a preseason game. There is always a ton of hype on rookies in training camp. I would invest in the guy who has already flashed in the nfl and by all account worked his tail off this off season. All these posters got the guy moss in the 2nd or 3rd and now ting he’s a 3 down rb who is going to just take over the job? It’s certainly possible, but I think if that was the case he would be a mid-high round 1 rookie pick, which he isn’t. Seems like the emotional attachment is really the love for Moss.

When was Singletary drafted last year?

I’ll reiterate my position (and full disclosure I am a Moss owner because I believe in the talent and drafted him at 1.13 - which is where I was targeting him before the NFL draft - rather than risk trading down and missing him) that Singletary has proven himself, but that reports out of BUF are indicating that Moss’ talent is transferring to the next level and that there is a rational basis for thinking that he’ll have a meaningful role this year. I’ll also freely acknowledge that I couldn’t begin to guess how the touches out of the backfield will be divided between the two. My issue is with those who simply dismiss Moss as being incapable of carving out a meaningful role.

I'm going to let Ice answer this for me, because he said it better than I could:

Singletary averaged 5.1 YPC last season in 12 games 8 starts. He also had 24 receptions. It is silly to think he won't be a significant factor this season.

This could be a RBBC situation but Singletary is the safer play given he has shown he can be very effective in game situations and was gelling with Allen in the passing game. Singletary added 133 total yards in his playoff game hauling in 6 of 7 targets.

The reports you are hearing are based on practice, lots of it in shorts without contact, this means nothing. He may be great and he may split the workload or lead the backfield, but I wouldn't be making those projections based off of camp reports, especially not this pre-season. Singletary is by far the better bet at this point in time, you've seen him excel with the pads on in live gameplay.

We are on day 10 of full contact padded practices. Recent reports are for full speed padded practices.

And no one that I have seen is stating that Singletary won’t play a significant role.

So far this year Moss has been better than Singletary at this point in time, by all the accounts out of camp. We have no idea how that carries through into the regular season, because Moss hasn’t been there yet while Singletary has. I’m just trying to put forth that it could be a real mistake to dismiss Moss because Singletary has a strong half of a season under his belt.

[thebeast]

When was Singletary drafted last year?

I’ll reiterate my position (and full disclosure I am a Moss owner because I believe in the talent and drafted him at 1.13 - which is where I was targeting him before the NFL draft - rather than risk trading down and missing him) that Singletary has proven himself, but that reports out of BUF are indicating that Moss’ talent is transferring to the next level and that there is a rational basis for thinking that he’ll have a meaningful role this year. I’ll also freely acknowledge that I couldn’t begin to guess how the touches out of the backfield will be divided between the two. My issue is with those who simply dismiss Moss as being incapable of carving out a meaningful role.

I'm going to let Ice answer this for me, because he said it better than I could:

Singletary averaged 5.1 YPC last season in 12 games 8 starts. He also had 24 receptions. It is silly to think he won't be a significant factor this season.

This could be a RBBC situation but Singletary is the safer play given he has shown he can be very effective in game situations and was gelling with Allen in the passing game. Singletary added 133 total yards in his playoff game hauling in 6 of 7 targets.

The reports you are hearing are based on practice, lots of it in shorts without contact, this means nothing. He may be great and he may split the workload or lead the backfield, but I wouldn't be making those projections based off of camp reports, especially not this pre-season. Singletary is by far the better bet at this point in time, you've seen him excel with the pads on in live gameplay.

We are on day 10 of full contact padded practices. Recent reports are for full speed padded practices.

And no one that I have seen is stating that Singletary won’t play a significant role.

So far this year Moss has been better than Singletary at this point in time, by all the accounts out of camp. We have no idea how that carries through into the regular season, because Moss hasn’t been there yet while Singletary has. I’m just trying to put forth that it could be a real mistake to dismiss Moss because Singletary has a strong half of a season under his belt.

I think you should look more into what today’s nfl practices looks like. I don’t think many would characterize them as full speed. Practices these days are more about making sure players stay healthy, it just doesn’t come close to a game situation. I’m not going to argue about who could be what, my point is that I wouldn’t base my valuation of the situation on a beat writers report at this time. We’ll see what happens.

[Bronco Billy]

I'm going to let Ice answer this for me, because he said it better than I could:


The reports you are hearing are based on practice, lots of it in shorts without contact, this means nothing. He may be great and he may split the workload or lead the backfield, but I wouldn't be making those projections based off of camp reports, especially not this pre-season. Singletary is by far the better bet at this point in time, you've seen him excel with the pads on in live gameplay.

We are on day 10 of full contact padded practices. Recent reports are for full speed padded practices.

And no one that I have seen is stating that Singletary won’t play a significant role.

So far this year Moss has been better than Singletary at this point in time, by all the accounts out of camp. We have no idea how that carries through into the regular season, because Moss hasn’t been there yet while Singletary has. I’m just trying to put forth that it could be a real mistake to dismiss Moss because Singletary has a strong half of a season under his belt.

I think you should look more into what today’s nfl practices looks like. I don’t think many would characterize them as full speed. Practices these days are more about making sure players stay healthy, it just doesn’t come close to a game situation. I’m not going to argue about who could be what, my point is that I wouldn’t base my valuation of the situation on a beat writers report at this time. We’ll see what happens.

I guess that explains why there are so few injuries this year. And I barely listen to beat writers. They for the greater majority were journalism majors, not jocks. Most of them have no idea what they’re looking at but like to pretend they do.

But thanks for the advice.

[Benchwarmer101]

Moss has a higher floor game by game. But Moss is a very violent (slowish) runner. We’ve seen over and over that the guys who lower their shoulder typically just don’t last. He’s not elusive and tends more towards taking contact and dragging people with him. That won’t be as easy in the NFL. The Bills will limit his touches if they are smart. Game pace/weather will dictate who’s in but expect Moss to be dinged up a lot. That’s just the type of runner he is.