The Antonio Gibson Wager Thread --- WINNERS: qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyuj & McCafsteez!

[Anteaters]

Week 12 against Seattle-
Season high in carries at 29
Season high in rush yards at 111
Season high in targets at 7
Season high in receptions at 7
2nd highest this season in receiving yards at 35

This after 24/64/2 and 19/95/0 rush yard games since the bye. They've CLEARLY committed to the run. Oh, and McKissic got injured AFTER set his season high in receptions.

Choo fn choo.

I am shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you. It turns out that if you give a talented RB the ball ... he.produced! Go figure. Who would'a knew?

Hopefully, this becomes a trend in Washington.

[FantasyFreak]

Week 12 against Seattle-
Season high in carries at 29
Season high in rush yards at 111
Season high in targets at 7
Season high in receptions at 7
2nd highest this season in receiving yards at 35

This after 24/64/2 and 19/95/0 rush yard games since the bye. They've CLEARLY committed to the run. Oh, and McKissic got injured AFTER set his season high in receptions.

Choo fn choo.

I am shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you. It turns out that if you give a talented RB the ball ... he.produced! Go figure. Who would'a knew?

Hopefully, this becomes a trend in Washington.

Seattle's terrible Defense might have something to do with it, too. Just saying. I like Gibson and all, but matchups often have a lot to do with production. The other thing is, if you give Gibson 35 touches a game, he won't last. He's been playing hurt all year. They've been managing his touches so he doesn't end up on IR. They aren't stupid.

[Anteaters]

Seattle's terrible Defense might have something to do with it, too. Just saying. I like Gibson and all, but matchups often have a lot to do with production. The other thing is, if you give Gibson 35 touches a game, he won't last. He's been playing hurt all year. They've been managing his touches so he doesn't end up on IR. They aren't stupid.

True. True. True.

I was just basking in the afterglow of a good game. The kind of gameplan I thought Washington would go to with Gibson a lot more than they have so far. 35 touches is more than I'd want on a regular basis, but I'd be satisfied with 20-25 per game.

[Kurt G.O.A.T.]

Week 12 against Seattle-
Season high in carries at 29
Season high in rush yards at 111
Season high in targets at 7
Season high in receptions at 7
2nd highest this season in receiving yards at 35

This after 24/64/2 and 19/95/0 rush yard games since the bye. They've CLEARLY committed to the run. Oh, and McKissic got injured AFTER set his season high in receptions.

Choo fn choo.

I am shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you. It turns out that if you give a talented RB the ball ... he.produced! Go figure. Who would'a knew?

Hopefully, this becomes a trend in Washington.

Seattle's terrible Defense might have something to do with it, too. Just saying. I like Gibson and all, but matchups often have a lot to do with production. The other thing is, if you give Gibson 35 touches a game, he won't last. He's been playing hurt all year. They've been managing his touches so he doesn't end up on IR. They aren't stupid.

So you mean the exact opposite of the panthers.

[Anteaters]

I am shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you. It turns out that if you give a talented RB the ball ... he.produced! Go figure. Who would'a knew?

Hopefully, this becomes a trend in Washington.

Seattle's terrible Defense might have something to do with it, too. Just saying. I like Gibson and all, but matchups often have a lot to do with production. The other thing is, if you give Gibson 35 touches a game, he won't last. He's been playing hurt all year. They've been managing his touches so he doesn't end up on IR. They aren't stupid.

So you mean the exact opposite of the panthers.

In the world of fantasy, I'd prefer Washington use Gibson like CMC was used. I'd rather get 3.5 years of supernova production, rather than 7 years of Melvin Gordon.

IRL, I agree with you.

[abloom]

Week 12 against Seattle-
Season high in carries at 29
Season high in rush yards at 111
Season high in targets at 7
Season high in receptions at 7
2nd highest this season in receiving yards at 35

This after 24/64/2 and 19/95/0 rush yard games since the bye. They've CLEARLY committed to the run. Oh, and McKissic got injured AFTER set his season high in receptions.

Choo fn choo.

Week 12 against Seattle:

Got bailed out by the defense after almost costing Washington the game by going out of bounds on third down with 2:25 left. Cost Washington about 30 seconds. Seattle scored with 15 seconds left.

Also I thought it was interesting that Patterson was in on 4th down and not Gibson.

[Pullo Vision]

Week 12 against Seattle-
Season high in carries at 29
Season high in rush yards at 111
Season high in targets at 7
Season high in receptions at 7
2nd highest this season in receiving yards at 35

This after 24/64/2 and 19/95/0 rush yard games since the bye. They've CLEARLY committed to the run. Oh, and McKissic got injured AFTER set his season high in receptions.

Choo fn choo.

I am shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you. It turns out that if you give a talented RB the ball ... he.produced! Go figure. Who would'a knew?

Hopefully, this becomes a trend in Washington.

Seattle's terrible Defense might have something to do with it, too. Just saying. I like Gibson and all, but matchups often have a lot to do with production. The other thing is, if you give Gibson 35 touches a game, he won't last. He's been playing hurt all year. They've been managing his touches so he doesn't end up on IR. They aren't stupid.

Thought about bringing up the injury initially. He's off the weekly injury report. Gibson was forthright in first telling media outlets about the injury (those tidbits in interviews were the first indications of the severity) and he says he's not injured now.

Yes it was a great matchup. And lo and behold he produced. The rest of the season is chock full of great matchups.

1- over his injury
2- getting THREE DOWN bellcow touches
3- good upcoming matchups
4- involved in the pass game (given his college history, strange that doesn't happen more often)

That 4th point is probably what interests me the most going forward.

[YouMightDieTryin]

Week 12 against Seattle-
Season high in carries at 29
Season high in rush yards at 111
Season high in targets at 7
Season high in receptions at 7
2nd highest this season in receiving yards at 35

This after 24/64/2 and 19/95/0 rush yard games since the bye. They've CLEARLY committed to the run. Oh, and McKissic got injured AFTER set his season high in receptions.

Choo fn choo.

Week 12 against Seattle:

Got bailed out by the defense after almost costing Washington the game by going out of bounds on third down with 2:25 left. Cost Washington about 30 seconds. Seattle scored with 15 seconds left.

Also I thought it was interesting that Patterson was in on 4th down and not Gibson.

I was wondering the exact same thing. He was in the previous 3 plays after the McKissic injury and was noticeably fatigued, but even after WFT called the timeout he wasn't in. I figured that additional time would be all he needed for one last push. It'll be interesting to see his usage (and Patterson) with McKissic possibly missing time with a neck injury. He wasn't moving his arm at all which wasn't a good sign.

[Ice]

No idea on 1/2 ppr since most don't play that BUT....

In full PPR Gibson is 12.9 total fantasy points from being a top 10 RB.

[FantasyFreak]

I am shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you. It turns out that if you give a talented RB the ball ... he.produced! Go figure. Who would'a knew?

Hopefully, this becomes a trend in Washington.

Seattle's terrible Defense might have something to do with it, too. Just saying. I like Gibson and all, but matchups often have a lot to do with production. The other thing is, if you give Gibson 35 touches a game, he won't last. He's been playing hurt all year. They've been managing his touches so he doesn't end up on IR. They aren't stupid.

Thought about bringing up the injury initially. He's off the weekly injury report. Gibson was forthright in first telling media outlets about the injury (those tidbits in interviews were the first indications of the severity) and he says he's not injured now.

Yes it was a great matchup. And lo and behold he produced. The rest of the season is chock full of great matchups.

1- over his injury
2- getting THREE DOWN bellcow touches
3- good upcoming matchups
4- involved in the pass game (given his college history, strange that doesn't happen more often)

That 4th point is probably what interests me the most going forward.

He's not going to get those, though. McKissic is fine.

[Pullo Vision]

Seattle's terrible Defense might have something to do with it, too. Just saying. I like Gibson and all, but matchups often have a lot to do with production. The other thing is, if you give Gibson 35 touches a game, he won't last. He's been playing hurt all year. They've been managing his touches so he doesn't end up on IR. They aren't stupid.

Thought about bringing up the injury initially. He's off the weekly injury report. Gibson was forthright in first telling media outlets about the injury (those tidbits in interviews were the first indications of the severity) and he says he's not injured now.

Yes it was a great matchup. And lo and behold he produced. The rest of the season is chock full of great matchups.

1- over his injury
2- getting THREE DOWN bellcow touches
3- good upcoming matchups
4- involved in the pass game (given his college history, strange that doesn't happen more often)

That 4th point is probably what interests me the most going forward.

He's not going to get those, though. McKissic is fine.

If he was a 2 down thumper getting volume rushes with little/no pass involvement like Foreman, I'd be concerned about Gibson. If he was merely getting volume touches with rush attempts like the last 3 games, I wouldn't be as amped. But, he get 7 catches- that addresses both the solid pass game involvement AND the bellcow. Again, Gibson was involved in the pass game BEFORE McKissic getting injured, so him coming back doesn't faze me.

[abloom]

No idea on 1/2 ppr since most don't play that BUT....

In full PPR Gibson is 12.9 total fantasy points from being a top 10 RB.

He is in roughly 16th. I say roughly only because I don't know off the top of my head if the scoring settings that are used in my one 0.5 ppr league are the exact same.

[FantasyFreak]

Thought about bringing up the injury initially. He's off the weekly injury report. Gibson was forthright in first telling media outlets about the injury (those tidbits in interviews were the first indications of the severity) and he says he's not injured now.

Yes it was a great matchup. And lo and behold he produced. The rest of the season is chock full of great matchups.

1- over his injury
2- getting THREE DOWN bellcow touches
3- good upcoming matchups
4- involved in the pass game (given his college history, strange that doesn't happen more often)

That 4th point is probably what interests me the most going forward.

He's not going to get those, though. McKissic is fine.

If he was a 2 down thumper getting volume rushes with little/no pass involvement like Foreman, I'd be concerned about Gibson. If he was merely getting volume touches with rush attempts like the last 3 games, I wouldn't be as amped. But, he get 7 catches- that addresses both the solid pass game involvement AND the bellcow. Again, Gibson was involved in the pass game BEFORE McKissic getting injured, so him coming back doesn't faze me.

Sure, but last night has been an outlier to his career so far. Extremely small sample size to try and predict future usage. Each game has a plan, and a game flow that is unique in it's own right. Don't get me wrong, I'd love it if he gets a ton of work going forward, I need him to step up with CMC going down, but I am not banking on last night as any future indication of his usage.

[Anteaters]

Sure, but last night has been an outlier to his career so far. Extremely small sample size to try and predict future usage. Each game has a plan, and a game flow that is unique in it's own right. Don't get me wrong, I'd love it if he gets a ton of work going forward, I need him to step up with CMC going down, but I am not banking on last night as any future indication of his usage.

That's true but it's never stopped fantasy managers from celebrating.

After 9 games of varying mediocrity, AJ Dillon has one great game this and one kind of good game and his managers are calling him the next Henry and are ready to buy Vegas New Year's Eve trip with their championship money. After missing half the season, CMC comes back with a couple of big yardage games and his managers think he'll never be injured again.

I think Gibson has more Proof Of Concept than Dillon and a better chance at staying healthy than CMC. He has a coach (thankfully not named Siriani) who has shown a willingness to use his RBs effectively and relentlessly. And almost everyone agrees Gibson is talented.

I agree nothing in a situation like this is guaranteed. But I also think there is a better than 50/50 chance that Gibson has several more games like this before the end of the season.

[sugbear65]

Less than 4 YPC average on the season. Less than 2.5 catches per game average. Has 5 rushing TDs so far this year. One stat he does lead the NFL RBs in is most fumbles, and most lost fumbles.
I swear he has the most ardent supporters of any RB in the league. This is the kind of production that should cause him to be replaced in the future, not gifted a higher workload.