Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby Patsfan86 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:47 am

Back to the 22 draft but sticking with the RB talk, what do we think of Kyren WIlliams? Day 2 guy? Day 3? Udfa? He looks interesting enough for me to take him at the back end of the first in a bad RB class. But he is the definition of a guy where draft capital will matter.

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby SoftwoodGrampian » Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:33 am

Looks like a better CEH

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby dhanks91 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:40 pm

Patsfan86 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:47 am Back to the 22 draft but sticking with the RB talk, what do we think of Kyren WIlliams? Day 2 guy? Day 3? Udfa? He looks interesting enough for me to take him at the back end of the first in a bad RB class. But he is the definition of a guy where draft capital will matter.
I think he could rise as high as the mid first depending on landing spot. Not sure he’s a 3 down back but his ability as a pass catcher could let him see the field early on in his career.

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby remedy29 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:33 am

What about James Cook? Seems to be a RB generating a lot of buzz.

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby Cameron Giles » Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:58 am

remedy29 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:33 am What about James Cook? Seems to be a RB generating a lot of buzz.
Good receiving back to target in the middle rounds of rookie drafts.

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby Patsfan86 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:07 am

I have 2 later seconds, hoping to snag two RBs there and just hope, sometimes thats the best way to go about it. Also i really hope Wan'Dale Robinson gets some high draft capital, he is a very interesting propsect for me but i wont touch him unless he is a first or second round pick. One mock i saw had him going to KC, i guess i can dream.

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby Mjvb5 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:00 pm

Just as an FYI rbs taken 2nd+ of rookie drafts (based on adp) have an incredibly low hit Rate. Last I saw the last 3 years combined to a 15% rate or something ridiculous

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:04 pm

Mjvb5 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:00 pm Just as an FYI rbs taken 2nd+ of rookie drafts (based on adp) have an incredibly low hit Rate. Last I saw the last 3 years combined to a 15% rate or something ridiculous
They are good for flipping, not holding. It's really low for all positions after early 2nd but rbs generate stronger buzz and create more flip opportunities, ime.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby Mjvb5 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:07 pm

SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:04 pm
Mjvb5 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:00 pm Just as an FYI rbs taken 2nd+ of rookie drafts (based on adp) have an incredibly low hit Rate. Last I saw the last 3 years combined to a 15% rate or something ridiculous
They are good for flipping, not holding. It's really low for all positions after early 2nd but rbs generate stronger buzz and create more flip opportunities, ime.
That's fair, it's more to the don't plan on holding these guys I guess. Fwiw wr normally sits around 1/3 still bad but over twice the rate at rb. Qb is around 50/50 but it's based on 1qb so these are all your top qbs on the year

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:44 pm

Mjvb5 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:07 pm
SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:04 pm
Mjvb5 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:00 pm Just as an FYI rbs taken 2nd+ of rookie drafts (based on adp) have an incredibly low hit Rate. Last I saw the last 3 years combined to a 15% rate or something ridiculous
They are good for flipping, not holding. It's really low for all positions after early 2nd but rbs generate stronger buzz and create more flip opportunities, ime.
That's fair, it's more to the don't plan on holding these guys I guess. Fwiw wr normally sits around 1/3 still bad but over twice the rate at rb. Qb is around 50/50 but it's based on 1qb so these are all your top qbs on the year
I wonder if you should always plan to hold your later round wrs? How often do they return their value? Diggs, Kupp, Terry Mclaurin, Edelman, Landry, Robby Anderson. I doubt you could ever sell them for what they produced. Godwin and Hill are the outliers of that group
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby grandmabetty » Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:20 pm

What constitutes a hit?

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby StripesOfKC » Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:27 pm

grandmabetty wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:20 pm What constitutes a hit?
Top 12 for QBs and RBs

Top 24 for WRs

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby Mjvb5 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:41 pm

StripesOfKC wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:27 pm
grandmabetty wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:20 pm What constitutes a hit?
Top 12 for QBs and RBs

Top 24 for WRs
2+ seasons of top "starter quality production" aka top 12 QB/TE or top 30 RB/WR I beleive

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby StripesOfKC » Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:46 pm

Mjvb5 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:41 pm
StripesOfKC wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:27 pm
grandmabetty wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:20 pm What constitutes a hit?
Top 12 for QBs and RBs

Top 24 for WRs
2+ seasons of top "starter quality production" aka top 12 QB/TE or top 30 RB/WR I beleive
By that metric it's nearly impossible for a highly drafted RB to miss

I don't think that's the right approach on RBs at least

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Re: Way Way Too Early 2022 Draft Thread

Postby Jrblaha » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:26 pm

To me hit is defined somewhat by roster requirements. Mine is 2 rbs 3 rbs, so a hit to me is top 12 rb, top 18 wr. Not sure length required but 2+ years seems fair for rbs and I’d want longer for wrs
12 team. PPR. QB pass td = 6
Starters: QB(1) FLEX (RB/WR/TE)(2) RB(2) WR(3) TE(1)

QB: AR, DJones
RB: Gibby, Charb, KMiller, Akers
WR: Chase, Lamb, G Wilson, Tank Dell, Burks, Mimsy, Tutu, W Robinson, Tucker, Wicks, RBell
TE: DNjoku, Hunter Henry

Draft Picks: 2024: 1.2, 1.5, 1.11. 2025: 1st Round (2) 2nd Round (1), 2026: 1st Round (1) 2nd Round (2)


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