That graph is useful but flawed in that some of the qbs to the left aren’t there because the line is trash but simply because they read the field and make their decision more rapidly.Ice wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:49 am
I get what you are implying but 3 seconds is like a lifetime to throw in the NFL. I think the average is around 2.7 seconds. I doubt more than 2-3 would have an average at 3 seconds or higher.
edit to add this graph. https://imgur.com/a/vNefuE2
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It was a lighthearted dig at the sloth like Wentz. The graph simply represents the average release time of QB's in 2020.Valhalla wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:44 amThat graph is useful but flawed in that some of the qbs to the left aren’t there because the line is trash but simply because they read the field and make their decision more rapidly.Ice wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:49 am
I get what you are implying but 3 seconds is like a lifetime to throw in the NFL. I think the average is around 2.7 seconds. I doubt more than 2-3 would have an average at 3 seconds or higher.
edit to add this graph. https://imgur.com/a/vNefuE2
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Ah gotcha. Yes I agree the graph makes Wentz look bad.Ice wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:14 pmIt was a lighthearted dig at the sloth like Wentz. The graph simply represents the average release time of QB's in 2020.Valhalla wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:44 amThat graph is useful but flawed in that some of the qbs to the left aren’t there because the line is trash but simply because they read the field and make their decision more rapidly.Ice wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:49 am
I get what you are implying but 3 seconds is like a lifetime to throw in the NFL. I think the average is around 2.7 seconds. I doubt more than 2-3 would have an average at 3 seconds or higher.
edit to add this graph. https://imgur.com/a/vNefuE2
Quite often the least sacked QBs are the least sacked because they can decipher the defense more rapidly and get rid of the ball. The QB processing speed makes his line look good...but so many people want to say the QB is good because his line is good.
Ultimately it's a team game and a rapidly thinking and moving QB makes the line look better just as a well blocking line makes the QB look better. A graph like that one indicates Wentz is getting sacked at least in part because he isn't getting rid of the ball as rapidly as others could.
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I get all that. My jab was more that our WR aren't getting open in 10 seconds, let alone 3. Wentz certainly didn't play a perfect game, but the Colts poor performance was not because of himValhalla wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:45 pmAh gotcha. Yes I agree the graph makes Wentz look bad.
Quite often the least sacked QBs are the least sacked because they can decipher the defense more rapidly and get rid of the ball. The QB processing speed makes his line look good...but so many people want to say the QB is good because his line is good.
Ultimately it's a team game and a rapidly thinking and moving QB makes the line look better just as a well blocking line makes the QB look better. A graph like that one indicates Wentz is getting sacked at least in part because he isn't getting rid of the ball as rapidly as others could.
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I believe both of Strachans receptions were crucial 3rd down catches? Can anyone confirm? If so that is a good step forward.
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I know one was, didn’t see the other one
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Was wondering what the snap counts were and if Strachan played much or at all in base offense. Guessing it was more whenever 4 WR formations were on the field w/ a cpl of plays spelling tired guys
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Out of 76 offensive snaps, the WR group was as follows:
Pittman 74, 97%
Pascal 69, 91%
Campbell 46, 61%
Strachan 18, 24%
Dulin 6, 8%
Doyle and Alie-Cox were in on 45 and 39 snaps, respectively (7 for Granson).
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RB: Swift, Pacheco, Sanders, Hubbard, Spears, Dillon, Herbert, McLaughlin, Chandler, Dowdle
WR: DeVonta, Waddle, Aiyuk, Nacua, McLaurin, Hopkins, M Williams, Mingo, Wan’Dale, Hyatt
TE: Kelce, Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
QB: L Jackson, Tagovailoa, Rodgers, Pickett, Tannehill
RB: Swift, Pacheco, Sanders, Hubbard, Spears, Dillon, Herbert, McLaughlin, Chandler, Dowdle
WR: DeVonta, Waddle, Aiyuk, Nacua, McLaurin, Hopkins, M Williams, Mingo, Wan’Dale, Hyatt
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Thanks ...pretty much what I expected !Ruggenater wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:21 amOut of 76 offensive snaps, the WR group was as follows:
Pittman 74, 97%
Pascal 69, 91%
Campbell 46, 61%
Strachan 18, 24%
Dulin 6, 8%
Doyle and Alie-Cox were in on 45 and 39 snaps, respectively (7 for Granson).
Add in the % of targets for the RBs and there's not much short of an injury to a WR to get excited about ... Yet !
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Where did you find snap counts already?Ruggenater wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:21 amOut of 76 offensive snaps, the WR group was as follows:
Pittman 74, 97%
Pascal 69, 91%
Campbell 46, 61%
Strachan 18, 24%
Dulin 6, 8%
Doyle and Alie-Cox were in on 45 and 39 snaps, respectively (7 for Granson).
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The NFLPlayerSnaps Twitter account lays out snap counts for every game (and puts them up pretty quickly): https://mobile.twitter.com/nflplayersnaps?lang=en
12 Team Superflex - PPR, 0.25 PPC - QB/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex/Superflex
QB: L Jackson, Tagovailoa, Rodgers, Pickett, Tannehill
RB: Swift, Pacheco, Sanders, Hubbard, Spears, Dillon, Herbert, McLaughlin, Chandler, Dowdle
WR: DeVonta, Waddle, Aiyuk, Nacua, McLaurin, Hopkins, M Williams, Mingo, Wan’Dale, Hyatt
TE: Kelce, Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
QB: L Jackson, Tagovailoa, Rodgers, Pickett, Tannehill
RB: Swift, Pacheco, Sanders, Hubbard, Spears, Dillon, Herbert, McLaughlin, Chandler, Dowdle
WR: DeVonta, Waddle, Aiyuk, Nacua, McLaurin, Hopkins, M Williams, Mingo, Wan’Dale, Hyatt
TE: Kelce, Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
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https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/reports/targets/Ruggenater wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:00 pmThe NFLPlayerSnaps Twitter account lays out snap counts for every game (and puts them up pretty quickly): https://mobile.twitter.com/nflplayersnaps?lang=en
I like this one. It's nice and sortable too. Not sure how accurate it is, but I question the stats accuracy in general lol
Edit: there's a difference between targets and snaps lol... I need a nap
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I like FantasyPros. They didn't have the snap counts yet. I know NFLGIS does first, I think these other sites user that data she's it takes a day or two to process itJigga94 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:30 pmhttps://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/reports/targets/Ruggenater wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:00 pmThe NFLPlayerSnaps Twitter account lays out snap counts for every game (and puts them up pretty quickly): https://mobile.twitter.com/nflplayersnaps?lang=en
I like this one. It's nice and sortable too. Not sure how accurate it is, but I question the stats accuracy in general lol
Edit: there's a difference between targets and snaps lol... I need a nap
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Can confirm. I was watching the game, and that was something that stood out. Would have liked to see a few more targets, but perhaps they'll come as the season progresses.
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WR: C. Olave, T. Higgins, B. Aiyuk, N. Collins, Z. Flowers, M. Mims
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QB: L. Jackson, B. Purdy, T. Lance
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WR: J. Chase, C. Godwin, D. Johnson, J. Reed, C. Tillman
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QB: L. Jackson, T. Tagovailoa
RB: B. Robinson, K. Walker, R. Stevenson, K. Herbertl
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Re: Mike Strachan...hype or real deal?
None of the Colts WR's were separating. It could be an issue all year. Their WR corps is really weak.Shoreline Steamers wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:20 pmCan confirm. I was watching the game, and that was something that stood out. Would have liked to see a few more targets, but perhaps they'll come as the season progresses.
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