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Re: 2021 Injury Thread

Postby Orenthal Shames » Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:10 am

nathanq42 wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:08 am
Orenthal Shames wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:38 am
Anteaters wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:22 pm CMC - Hamstring Injury

I love CMC's talent and running style, but he was a player I was fading this season. I did not want him anywhere near his ADP. Despite his relative youth, it was looking like CMC was a player who would succumb to more and more smaller and more severe injuries. I hope this is a minor one.
At that workload, it was only a matter of time. He isn't built for 30 touches a game.
I don't think many people in the planet are built for that kind of workload. Can't doubt CMC's toughness
Not doubting the toughness at all, just seems like poor management/coaching on CAR part.
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Re: 2021 Injury Thread

Postby Anteaters » Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:15 am

nathanq42 wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:08 am
Orenthal Shames wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:38 am
Anteaters wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:22 pm CMC - Hamstring Injury

I love CMC's talent and running style, but he was a player I was fading this season. I did not want him anywhere near his ADP. Despite his relative youth, it was looking like CMC was a player who would succumb to more and more smaller and more severe injuries. I hope this is a minor one.
At that workload, it was only a matter of time. He isn't built for 30 touches a game.
I don't think many people in the planet are built for that kind of workload. Can't doubt CMC's toughness
I don't doubt CMC's toughness. He's a great football player. He'll play through pain as much as anyone.

What I doubt is his body's ability to remain healthy. NFL bodies break down at different rates. Peterson's body is a freaking tank. Barkley's is glass. CMC is somewhere in between, but I think it's safe to say he's displaying a little more tendency toward being injured in the past two seasons. A serious hamstring injury cannot be played through by a player using his toughness.
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WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
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RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
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Re: 2021 Injury Thread

Postby Anteaters » Sat Sep 25, 2021 1:33 pm

Tua placed on IR.

I don't like the implications of this (regarding Tua's long term viability) at all. This sucks.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: 2021 Injury Thread

Postby abloom » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:16 am

KJ Hamler torn ACL. Sutton and Patrick look very appealing especially with Jeudy still out. Maybe even opens it up a bit more for Albert O opportunities
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12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

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Re: 2021 Injury Thread

Postby Jigga94 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:38 pm

abloom wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:16 am KJ Hamler torn ACL. Sutton and Patrick look very appealing especially with Jeudy still out. Maybe even opens it up a bit more for Albert O opportunities
I feel like Tim Patrick has been a thing and no one wants to recognize it, including myself. Seems like he's in line for a lot of work

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Re: 2021 Injury Thread

Postby Hjorimir » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:20 pm

I like Patrick, but I think he'll take a huge step back on target share once Jeudy returns to the field.
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RB: Gordon, Drake, Perine, RoJo II, Dillon, Coleman, Sermon, Ingram, Mitchell, Barber, JJ, Bolden
WR: Kupp, DJM, Chase, Jeudy, AJG, OBJ, Shepard, Mecole, Parris, Osborn
TE: Knox, Engram,
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RB: Zeke, Cook, Mixon, Moss/Singletary, McKinnon, Gio, Rhamondre, Evans, Roundtree
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Re: 2021 Injury Thread

Postby abloom » Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:03 pm

Hjorimir wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:20 pm I like Patrick, but I think he'll take a huge step back on target share once Jeudy returns to the field.
Quite possibly, but it's important to remember that high ankle sprains can be a long recovery, and coming back too early can lead to more problems.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

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Re: 2021 Injury Thread

Postby Anteaters » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:39 pm

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/geor ... er-report/
To the surprise of no one, Kittle is injured again and headed to the IR. I hope all the Kittlemen have good backup plans. No matter what his ppg average is, no way should Kittle ever again be considered a T3TE for fantasy. It doesn't matter how talented you are if you're not on the field enough - same bottom line problem as Josh Gordon. If you're not playing, you're not useful.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: 2021 Injury Thread

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:49 am

Anteaters wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:39 pm https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/geor ... er-report/
To the surprise of no one, Kittle is injured again and headed to the IR. I hope all the Kittlemen have good backup plans. No matter what his ppg average is, no way should Kittle ever again be considered a T3TE for fantasy. It doesn't matter how talented you are if you're not on the field enough - same bottom line problem as Josh Gordon. If you're not playing, you're not useful.
I actually dragged up the Kitltle thread last week, made a post about how he's not in the elite TE tier any more, and the sell window is closing fast. I made a long paragraph about it, then deleted it, for some reason. Still feel that way, and it may be too late. I traded him everywhere this off season. He's not getting targeted like Kelce or Waller, has a murky situation with QB's, and his HC/OC just doesn't feature him. He's in the tier of everybody else below Kelce and Waller, with Andrews, Hock etc. That's the truth. I saw this coming all off season, and got out. Hope others did too.
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Re: 2021 Injury Thread

Postby Anteaters » Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:23 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:49 am
Anteaters wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:39 pm https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/geor ... er-report/
To the surprise of no one, Kittle is injured again and headed to the IR. I hope all the Kittlemen have good backup plans. No matter what his ppg average is, no way should Kittle ever again be considered a T3TE for fantasy. It doesn't matter how talented you are if you're not on the field enough - same bottom line problem as Josh Gordon. If you're not playing, you're not useful.
I actually dragged up the Kitltle thread last week, made a post about how he's not in the elite TE tier any more, and the sell window is closing fast. I made a long paragraph about it, then deleted it, for some reason. Still feel that way, and it may be too late. I traded him everywhere this off season. He's not getting targeted like Kelce or Waller, has a murky situation with QB's, and his HC/OC just doesn't feature him. He's in the tier of everybody else below Kelce and Waller, with Andrews, Hock etc. That's the truth. I saw this coming all off season, and got out. Hope others did too.
I agree.

Even further, I really agree with the next tier being "Andrews, Hock, etc." That "etc" is about 6-8 deep.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: 2021 Injury Thread

Postby Pullo Vision » Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:44 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:49 am
Anteaters wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:39 pm https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/geor ... er-report/
To the surprise of no one, Kittle is injured again and headed to the IR. I hope all the Kittlemen have good backup plans. No matter what his ppg average is, no way should Kittle ever again be considered a T3TE for fantasy. It doesn't matter how talented you are if you're not on the field enough - same bottom line problem as Josh Gordon. If you're not playing, you're not useful.
I actually dragged up the Kitltle thread last week, made a post about how he's not in the elite TE tier any more, and the sell window is closing fast. I made a long paragraph about it, then deleted it, for some reason. Still feel that way, and it may be too late. I traded him everywhere this off season. He's not getting targeted like Kelce or Waller, has a murky situation with QB's, and his HC/OC just doesn't feature him. He's in the tier of everybody else below Kelce and Waller, with Andrews, Hock etc. That's the truth. I saw this coming all off season, and got out. Hope others did too.
The thing I'll disagree with at this point is the Not Featured part. How is 11 targets not featured? You can argue if they were quality targets,and if Lance is capable of consistently delivering catchable halls, but he's the (or one of, depending on views of Deebo) best weapons on the team.
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Re: 2021 Injury Thread

Postby abloom » Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:38 am

Juju season ending shoulder surgery. I actually like him as a buy low option. The offense in PIT has been underwhelming for a couple years now and if he joins somewhere as a 1b option I think he'll thrive.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Re: 2021 Injury Thread

Postby abloom » Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:44 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:49 am
Anteaters wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:39 pm https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/geor ... er-report/
To the surprise of no one, Kittle is injured again and headed to the IR. I hope all the Kittlemen have good backup plans. No matter what his ppg average is, no way should Kittle ever again be considered a T3TE for fantasy. It doesn't matter how talented you are if you're not on the field enough - same bottom line problem as Josh Gordon. If you're not playing, you're not useful.
I actually dragged up the Kitltle thread last week, made a post about how he's not in the elite TE tier any more, and the sell window is closing fast. I made a long paragraph about it, then deleted it, for some reason. Still feel that way, and it may be too late. I traded him everywhere this off season. He's not getting targeted like Kelce or Waller, has a murky situation with QB's, and his HC/OC just doesn't feature him. He's in the tier of everybody else below Kelce and Waller, with Andrews, Hock etc. That's the truth. I saw this coming all off season, and got out. Hope others did too.
I think it's the QB situation more so than kittles talent. That being said the injuries are certainly the concern here. If he was in any other position group his value would be significantly lower however he's competing against guys like hock, Andresws, fant, goeddert?, Schultz? And Thomas? For the group between TE4 and TE9 (I probably missed a guy or two), assuming Kelce, waller, Pitts are the top 3. The other thing about the injuries is that you know when he's out, rather than trying to predict dud games. Is feel fine pairing kittle with another TE and just going kittle unless he's injured.

Obviously his injury history should be baked into his value.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Re: 2021 Injury Thread

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:51 am

abloom wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:38 am Juju season ending shoulder surgery. I actually like him as a buy low option. The offense in PIT has been underwhelming for a couple years now and if he joins somewhere as a 1b option I think he'll thrive.
He's still a good player. He will never hit the heights of his 2nd year again, but He can still be a high volume player in the right system. He's capable of big plays and TD's, but the Steelers just used him as a slot/possession guy the last few years. Hard to believe next year he'll basically just be entering what is considered a WR's prime years.
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Re: 2021 Injury Thread

Postby Pullo Vision » Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:18 pm

Maxx Williams feared to have suffered a season ending knee injury.
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