Harris vs. '20 RBs
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Harris vs. '20 RBs
Is it too much to say that Harris is the consensus 1.01 pick in 1QB non-TEP leagues? If so, where would you rank him versus last years RB class.
Y'all will hate me for this, but from DLF trade analyzer the ranking is currently:
Taylor 991
Akers 832
Swift 786
Dobbins 766
1.01 700
Gibson 692
CEH 628
So, the question is, if you hold the 1.01 (if you see another player at 1.01 please elaborate) which '20 RB would you draw the line or won't you take any. Feel free to answer the question the other way, too. If you have Taylor, would you give him for the 1.01 for example?
Y'all will hate me for this, but from DLF trade analyzer the ranking is currently:
Taylor 991
Akers 832
Swift 786
Dobbins 766
1.01 700
Gibson 692
CEH 628
So, the question is, if you hold the 1.01 (if you see another player at 1.01 please elaborate) which '20 RB would you draw the line or won't you take any. Feel free to answer the question the other way, too. If you have Taylor, would you give him for the 1.01 for example?
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Re: Harris vs. '20 RBs
Below all of them
I have the 1.1 for an orphan I took over--am taking Chase but if it was Harris I'd trade him for every single one of those players with the possible exception of Gibson (and even then I probably do it)
And there is zero chance in hell I'd give JT or Swift for Najee
I have the 1.1 for an orphan I took over--am taking Chase but if it was Harris I'd trade him for every single one of those players with the possible exception of Gibson (and even then I probably do it)
And there is zero chance in hell I'd give JT or Swift for Najee
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Re: Harris vs. '20 RBs
Where's Akers?
He's going to beast this year.
He's going to beast this year.
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Re: Harris vs. '20 RBs
forigve me. I somehow forgot him. He should be behind Taylor and above Swift I guess.
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Re: Harris vs. '20 RBs
i was hoping harris came out last season (i had 2 early 2nds in a league).
as a prospect, i had him behind taylor, dobbins and swift, on par with helaire, and before gibson and akers.
now i wouldn't give any of those RBs for harris (or 1.01 alone, even if i like chase more than harris).
as a prospect, i had him behind taylor, dobbins and swift, on par with helaire, and before gibson and akers.
now i wouldn't give any of those RBs for harris (or 1.01 alone, even if i like chase more than harris).
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Re: Harris vs. '20 RBs
Volume is king for RBs even on a bad team with a bad line (see James Robinson last year). Najee might get 300 touches and if thats the case, he will be a top 6 RB next year.
Id have JT as the only guy for sure ahead of Najee. Id put him in the same tier as CEH and Akers and I think you could rank them in any order without much argument.
I have no idea what to do with Swift, the Ravens won't committ to a bell cow, and I also don't know about Gibson. His 3 game dominace came against 3 terrible rush defenses and then he got hurt. Not to mention Fitzpatrick isn't exactly known to check it down to his RBs.
Id have JT as the only guy for sure ahead of Najee. Id put him in the same tier as CEH and Akers and I think you could rank them in any order without much argument.
I have no idea what to do with Swift, the Ravens won't committ to a bell cow, and I also don't know about Gibson. His 3 game dominace came against 3 terrible rush defenses and then he got hurt. Not to mention Fitzpatrick isn't exactly known to check it down to his RBs.
Re: Harris vs. '20 RBs
As prospects, I'd have him behind JT, Dobbins and Swift. On par with Akers. Assuming same landing spots, I bet Najee would've jumped ahead of a lot of those guys a la CEH to KC did.
As of right now? I'd take all 6 of these guys before Harris. He should be fine but all of the above proved themselves to a degree last year. Plus, they are all at least a year younger than Najee. Last year's class was on a different level
As of right now? I'd take all 6 of these guys before Harris. He should be fine but all of the above proved themselves to a degree last year. Plus, they are all at least a year younger than Najee. Last year's class was on a different level
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Re: Harris vs. '20 RBs
Short rant on the side. I often hear this reasoning behind Gibson having these 3 good games and that's it. But let's compare that to our beloved JT:jenkins.math wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 4:02 am [...] I also don't know about Gibson. His 3 game dominace came against 3 terrible rush defenses [...]
Gibson's best 3 games were against DAL (#31), DET (#28) and BAL (#6). Together he scored 81,9 points in those games.
That's 39% of his year.
Taylor's best 3 games were against JAX (#30), LVR (#23) and HOU (#32). Together he scored 91,4 points in those games.
That's 36% of his year.
That's the first argument against Gibson I always hear, but I rarely hear that knock on Taylor. Because that's not a knock at all. You ball out against the bad defenses.
This doesn't mean Gibson is as good as Taylor - he's not. But I really hate this argument.
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Re: Harris vs. '20 RBs
Be careful. Next you will be pointing out that Montgomery crushing a run of tissue thin Ds to end the year has been used as a stick to beat down his value, whereas Taylor doing the same was reason to anoint him. Then you'll really be in trouble...
Re: Harris vs. '20 RBs
Ja'Marr Chase = 1.01
Najee = RB6-9 from last 2 classes
Definitely taking JT/CEH/Akers/Swift/JK over him
Not really sure how I would rank Gibson/Najee/Etienne/Javonte yet, they're all pretty close.
Najee = RB6-9 from last 2 classes
Definitely taking JT/CEH/Akers/Swift/JK over him
Not really sure how I would rank Gibson/Najee/Etienne/Javonte yet, they're all pretty close.
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In PPR I value the 1.01 over all those guys because Chase is the 1.01 for me.
I'd also rather have Harris & Etienne over all those guys in PPR. In standard I'd rather have JT.
None of the other 2020 RBs equal to the 1.01 imo.
I'd also rather have Harris & Etienne over all those guys in PPR. In standard I'd rather have JT.
None of the other 2020 RBs equal to the 1.01 imo.
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Re: Harris vs. '20 RBs
I like Pitts as the 1.1 in Dynasty ppr formats and Chase 1.2. Both should have 10 plus elite years. Players with Pitt's skill set come around a couple times in a decade.
Players like Harris come around 2-4 times every year as the very thread shows. I actually like Etienne as 1.3 and Harris at 1.4. Think Etienne will be used more efficiently and play well into his 2nd contract.
Harris is going to be a high volume RB with legit 3 down potential so I would like him over most of the 2020 RB's. It is really a personal preference that comes down to how long he will play at a high level.
Players like Harris come around 2-4 times every year as the very thread shows. I actually like Etienne as 1.3 and Harris at 1.4. Think Etienne will be used more efficiently and play well into his 2nd contract.
Harris is going to be a high volume RB with legit 3 down potential so I would like him over most of the 2020 RB's. It is really a personal preference that comes down to how long he will play at a high level.
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I can agree the 1.01 should be Chase.
Are you saying you value ETN and Harris over every RB from 2020 as prospects or right now?
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Re: Harris vs. '20 RBs
Just a side observation unrelated to the OP.
Anyone else notice that in the majority of recent threads where some posters are whining about Taylor’s name being brought up in threads that it’s the guys doing the whining who first introduce his name into that thread?
Anyone else notice that in the majority of recent threads where some posters are whining about Taylor’s name being brought up in threads that it’s the guys doing the whining who first introduce his name into that thread?
Re: Harris vs. '20 RBs
That do be how it beBronco Billy wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:25 am Just a side observation unrelated to the OP.
Anyone else notice that in the majority of recent threads where some posters are whining about Taylor’s name being brought up in threads that it’s the guys doing the whining who first introduce his name into that thread?
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