Final 2021 Rookie RB Rankings -- Pre & Post NFL Draft (UPDATED 5/2)

[willistylz1979]

as a jrob owner i will have to choose between harris and etienne! tough one! team in sig

PPR
Yea I’m at pic 1.03 so I doubt Harris slides to me, so Entienne it is, though I really like Javonte Williams a lot. Entienne will be 1A by mid year IMO. JW is gonna be the guy eventually. Not sure about MG contact though.

[Jigga94]

as a jrob owner i will have to choose between harris and etienne! tough one! team in sig

PPR
Yea I’m at pic 1.03 so I doubt Harris slides to me, so Entienne it is, though I really like Javonte Williams a lot. Entienne will be 1A by mid year IMO. JW is gonna be the guy eventually. Not sure about MG contact though.

Gordon has a 9M cap hit this year and then is a UFA.

Mike Boone is the only other RB signed through 22, so door is wide open for JW

[MEuRaH]

Mike thanks for all the work you put in on this every year. Don't always agree with everything but these posts always give me a lot of food for thought. Especially this year as I have really had zero time to think about fantasy football so far!

I love doing it! Didn't have as much time this year to devote to it all but I gave what I could.

as a jrob owner i will have to choose between harris and etienne! tough one! team in sig

Choose who you think is the better player regardless of who you have on your roster. Just use that as a tiebreaker if two players are dead even.

I'd be taking Harris all day but I already had Harris higher.

Oof. A JRob owner with a Harris vs Etienne decision. Not ideal. Yeah you gotta go with the BPA, always. I'd actually take Chase if I had the 1.01 in a full dynasty tbh. I may even trade back to 1.03 and take whoever is left, if I could.

But if the choice is Harris and Etienne, you really can't go wrong imo. You're a winner either way.

[jcc6fd]

Also kneeling for racial justice wasn’t a “distraction.” It was an intentional movement to promote racial justice and to assert otherwise is racist. People being angry, ignorant and racist about that doesn’t make it a problem

When everything is racist then nothing is; Keep the politics out of this. Your Post is insulting and in all honesty makes you sound like the angry one painting the actions of some with such a broad bush. Disagreeing with a specific viewpoint is far from racist no matter how you spin it.

That's kind of what I'm disappointed in. That standing up for racial justice is "political." It's not just an expectation. Also acknowledging racial insensitivity in oneself doesn't mean they have admitted to having an insurmountable character flaw. People aren't always aware about how their words/actions are perceived. Take Mark Davis after the Floyd verdict. He didn't realize "I can breathe" was a slogan used by racists in New York who supported the police murder of Eric Gardner. People were naturally angry about that but he was informed by that and acknowledged that he learned from it.

I'm sorry you were insulted by me calling out racism (which teams not drafting a player based on him calling out Mississippi for having the confederate flag in their state flag absolutely would be). Confronting America's history of racism is difficult and tensions are high. But it's important.

Edit: also apologize if my tone wasn't clear. I was more questioning and informing rather than upset/raging about the subject. I realize that wouldn't be clear and that your assumption of me being angry is valid given most conversations about this tend to be upsetting (reasonably).

[willistylz1979]

as a jrob owner i will have to choose between harris and etienne! tough one! team in sig

PPR
Yea I’m at pic 1.03 so I doubt Harris slides to me, so Entienne it is, though I really like Javonte Williams a lot. Entienne will be 1A by mid year IMO. JW is gonna be the guy eventually. Not sure about MG contact though.

Gordon has a 9M cap hit this year and then is a UFA.

Mike Boone is the only other RB signed through 22, so door is wide open for JW

Thanks for this, now I like him even more, not sure if I’d grab him over Entienne, but at 4 all day long!

[Bronco Billy]

Also kneeling for racial justice wasn’t a “distraction.” It was an intentional movement to promote racial justice and to assert otherwise is racist. People being angry, ignorant and racist about that doesn’t make it a problem

When everything is racist then nothing is; Keep the politics out of this. Your Post is insulting and in all honesty makes you sound like the angry one painting the actions of some with such a broad bush. Disagreeing with a specific viewpoint is far from racist no matter how you spin it.

That's kind of what I'm disappointed in. That standing up for racial justice is "political." It's not just an expectation. Also acknowledging racial insensitivity in oneself doesn't mean they have admitted to having an insurmountable character flaw. People aren't always aware about how their words/actions are perceived. Take Mark Davis after the Floyd verdict. He didn't realize "I can breathe" was a slogan used by racists in New York who supported the police murder of Eric Gardner. People were naturally angry about that but he was informed by that and acknowledged that he learned from it.

I'm sorry you were insulted by me calling out racism (which teams not drafting a player based on him calling out Mississippi for having the confederate flag in their state flag absolutely would be). Confronting America's history of racism is difficult and tensions are high. But it's important.

Edit: also apologize if my tone wasn't clear. I was more questioning and informing rather than upset/raging about the subject. I realize that wouldn't be clear and that your assumption of me being angry is valid given most conversations about this tend to be upsetting (reasonably).

You can’t help yourself, can you? I believe you’d do everyone else here a favor by taking your crusade elsewhere other than a FF MB.

And if you really want to have a frank discussion about the topic elsewhere let me know, because your assertions make you seem, while certainly passionate, undereducated and willfully insulting.

[Ruggenater]

When everything is racist then nothing is; Keep the politics out of this. Your Post is insulting and in all honesty makes you sound like the angry one painting the actions of some with such a broad bush. Disagreeing with a specific viewpoint is far from racist no matter how you spin it.

That's kind of what I'm disappointed in. That standing up for racial justice is "political." It's not just an expectation. Also acknowledging racial insensitivity in oneself doesn't mean they have admitted to having an insurmountable character flaw. People aren't always aware about how their words/actions are perceived. Take Mark Davis after the Floyd verdict. He didn't realize "I can breathe" was a slogan used by racists in New York who supported the police murder of Eric Gardner. People were naturally angry about that but he was informed by that and acknowledged that he learned from it.

I'm sorry you were insulted by me calling out racism (which teams not drafting a player based on him calling out Mississippi for having the confederate flag in their state flag absolutely would be). Confronting America's history of racism is difficult and tensions are high. But it's important.

Edit: also apologize if my tone wasn't clear. I was more questioning and informing rather than upset/raging about the subject. I realize that wouldn't be clear and that your assumption of me being angry is valid given most conversations about this tend to be upsetting (reasonably).

You can’t help yourself, can you? I believe you’d do everyone else here a favor by taking your crusade elsewhere other than a FF MB.

And if you really want to have a frank discussion about the topic elsewhere let me know, because your assertions make you seem, while certainly passionate, undereducated and willfully insulting.

This is exactly how you’re coming across

[MEuRaH]

I've read all of the replies and I think that both sides are having a hard time seeing the other side. Perhaps it's a microcosm of everything that the NFL is trying to avoid.

Let's get back to the on-topic discussion of rookie RBs or I'll be forced to lock this thread. If you have more that you want to say to just the 1 or 2 people engaged in this off-topic conversation, please make it private via PMs. Thank you.

[Hottoddies]

I've read all of the replies and I think that both sides are having a hard time seeing the other side. Perhaps it's a microcosm of everything that the NFL is trying to avoid.

Let's get back to the on-topic discussion of rookie RBs or I'll be forced to lock this thread. If you have more that you want to say to just the 1 or 2 people engaged in this off-topic conversation, please make it private via PMs. Thank you.

Why is it every time a fight breaks out at the playground, it gets shut down and blocks all of the other kids from playing there?

[cazzie33]

@Hottoddies

Aren't you not allowed within 500' of said playgrounds

[dustyroads]

I've read all of the replies and I think that both sides are having a hard time seeing the other side. Perhaps it's a microcosm of everything that the NFL is trying to avoid.

Let's get back to the on-topic discussion of rookie RBs or I'll be forced to lock this thread. If you have more that you want to say to just the 1 or 2 people engaged in this off-topic conversation, please make it private via PMs. Thank you.

Why is it every time a fight breaks out at the playground, it gets shut down and blocks all of the other kids from playing there?

Because I said so. You'll understand when you grow up. Sometimes life isn't fair. It's for your own good. You know Christmas is right around the corner and Santa is watching.... Did that about cover it? lol

[esloan35]

That's kind of what I'm disappointed in. That standing up for racial justice is "political." It's not just an expectation. Also acknowledging racial insensitivity in oneself doesn't mean they have admitted to having an insurmountable character flaw. People aren't always aware about how their words/actions are perceived. Take Mark Davis after the Floyd verdict. He didn't realize "I can breathe" was a slogan used by racists in New York who supported the police murder of Eric Gardner. People were naturally angry about that but he was informed by that and acknowledged that he learned from it.

I'm sorry you were insulted by me calling out racism (which teams not drafting a player based on him calling out Mississippi for having the confederate flag in their state flag absolutely would be). Confronting America's history of racism is difficult and tensions are high. But it's important.

Edit: also apologize if my tone wasn't clear. I was more questioning and informing rather than upset/raging about the subject. I realize that wouldn't be clear and that your assumption of me being angry is valid given most conversations about this tend to be upsetting (reasonably).

You can’t help yourself, can you? I believe you’d do everyone else here a favor by taking your crusade elsewhere other than a FF MB.

And if you really want to have a frank discussion about the topic elsewhere let me know, because your assertions make you seem, while certainly passionate, undereducated and willfully insulting.

This is exactly how you’re coming across

Can we please have this be the one safe place away from politics. Folks arguing on message boards makes them all look ridiculous.

Great post, Mike!

[Patsfan86]

Got Javonte Williams at the 1.05 yesterday. What do we all think of him here? Are these Rodgers rumors all smoke with no fire?

[Anteaters]

Also kneeling for racial justice wasn’t a “distraction.” It was an intentional movement to promote racial justice and to assert otherwise is racist. People being angry, ignorant and racist about that doesn’t make it a problem

True.
True.
True.

I understand exactly what you're saying. Unfortunately, some people either don't quite grasp it, or are actively against it.

[MEuRaH]

Got Javonte Williams at the 1.05 yesterday. What do we all think of him here? Are these Rodgers rumors all smoke with no fire?

I'm a bit of a mixed bag. Williams landed in a great spot, perhaps the best one for his skillset. Because of that alone, I like him better than I would anywhere else. I see him as a "meh" back with a great spot. Many people think his skills are a lot better than I do. For the 2021 season I wouldn't expect much because Gordon will be the starter, and he'll do enough to retain that role ahead of Williams this time around.

I do not own Williams and will not own him anywhere. For me he's my 11th or 12th ranked rookie, and I don't see him being more than a 3-4 year starter with the Broncos at best.